Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:43 AM
Javaman (60,724 posts)
Yeah, the WI vote was rigged...
by us being out spent 10-1.
It's the American voting process being sold to the highest bidder. Who needs to tamper with electronic voting machines. That's such ugly dirty work suited best for the likes of rove and his ilk. nope, this time the election was gamed by money. You see, prior to citizens united, tampering with voting machines was the way to ensure your guy won. Now, money took it's place. Look at it this way, once upon a time, the mafia used to shake down local business owners for protection money, but then they learned it was easier just to control the industry. And here we are. Sure they won "fair and square", but they only did that once they changed the rules. See how it works?
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Javaman | Jun 2012 | OP |
GarroHorus | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
SGMRTDARMY | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
eowyn_of_rohan | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
tabatha | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
PeaceNikki | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
eowyn_of_rohan | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
PeaceNikki | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
Javaman | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
BlueCaliDem | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
rustydog | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
felix_numinous | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
HopeHoops | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
KansDem | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
AverageJoe90 | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
Sirveri | Jun 2012 | #15 |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:46 AM
GarroHorus (1,055 posts)
1. Yep, this is an example of a bought and paid for election
The billionaires now have their price tag. To unseat Barack Obama it will cost them $10 billion at least, and probably more.
They now have a cost/benefit decision to make. Looking at Obama's record of the past four years, I bet the cost would be too high for the benefit to be gained from a president Romney. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:48 AM
SGMRTDARMY (599 posts)
2. While I agree with you on Citizens United
this had nothing to do with WI, it had to do with WI quirky law that exempted Walker from state laws on limits allowed to his campaign. Thats what needs to be changed.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:50 AM
eowyn_of_rohan (5,858 posts)
3. I dont understand
are you saying the money spent on campaigning convinced more people to vote Walker than Barrett?
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Response to eowyn_of_rohan (Reply #3)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:58 AM
tabatha (18,795 posts)
5. If Walker lies in an ad that he has balanced the budget
when he has not, and people do not know that .......
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Response to tabatha (Reply #5)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:03 PM
PeaceNikki (27,985 posts)
6. and pits public workers against private, or demonizes unions
Or convinces them recalls are bad, etc.
The cultist fucking sheeple bought into it ALL hook, line and sinker. And they voted. I am surrounded by them. |
Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #6)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:31 PM
eowyn_of_rohan (5,858 posts)
7. there sure are a lot of cultist f'in sheeple
we have different ideas of who they are though
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Response to eowyn_of_rohan (Reply #7)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:40 PM
PeaceNikki (27,985 posts)
8. If that was a shitty attack on me, then have the guts to just do it.
I know you're into that kind of thing.
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Response to eowyn_of_rohan (Reply #3)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:48 PM
Javaman (60,724 posts)
14. yes. as george w. moron* once said...
"you have to catapult the propaganda".
Not everyone pays attention to the news the way we do. If you run enough ads with enough bullshit every day and do it more than the other guy, like the old saying goes, "if you say a lie often enough, people begin to believe it as the truth" |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:53 AM
BlueCaliDem (15,438 posts)
4. In the world of the greedy old party, why settle for one or the other?
It doesn't fit their m.o.
To ensure you win, why not flood the airwaves with political ads (with huge discounts, of course) and put the media focus on that AND rig the machines to ensure if some people aren't buying your ads, the machines will ensure a win, but their pals in corporate media will tout "money works!"? These people don't go half-assed. They're in it for the kill. |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:45 PM
rustydog (9,186 posts)
9. You hit the nail right on the head. Unless we change Citizen's United and publicly fund elections
People like Orly Taitz, Walker, Scott, et al, will be up for sale.
That 2am phone call candidates like to postulate about their rival will be a 2am call from Koch, or some other billionaire who put up a few million dollars for their "bitch." |
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:13 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
10. Why, with all the endless
corruption and hackable machines do we automatically just sit down and trust these people after an election? I think the burden is on the Republicans to prove their honesty. Trusting people who have proven repeatedly in the past to be dishonest lying cheats is not only naive and gullible--it is irresponsible.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:35 PM
HopeHoops (47,675 posts)
11. I read 7:1, but hey, it's still outside money and Kochaine.
Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:44 PM
KansDem (28,498 posts)
12. If what happened yesterday in Wisconsin happened on any downtown street corner...
...the police would declare it prostitution and put an end to it.
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:53 PM
AverageJoe90 (10,745 posts)
13. These people buying out elections are criminals......
and ought to be treated as such. If the justice system and Congress can't take care of them........
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Response to Javaman (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:51 AM
Sirveri (4,517 posts)
15. Unlimited money wouldn't matter
if we had a media that was worth a damn. But they bought that first.
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