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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAh that tinfoil fits nice... media fixation... Prince
every time we have a major media MY GOD, cannot walk and talk at the same time, aka fixation on a story... I always ask... so what else is going on in the world they are not telling us? (I love my foreign feeds for some of this)
Obama is in the UK, and had a press conference with PM Cameron, where he warned the Brits to stay within the EU... would be best for them...
Trump is already moving to GE mode... there was a meeting this morning with GOP brass in Florida... to be fair CNN has been treating this as a story we mention in passing.
The world is on the way to have the hottest year since records and we might have crossed the 2 degree centigrade mark... yes this could and will reinforce reverse loops. I am thinking permafrost by the way.
Yes in the Panama Papers front, about 7.8 trillion of global wealth is in things like trusts, foundations and off shore accounts. That is a SHIT LOAD OF MONEY by the way.
Of course very locally my City Council is doing all it can to prevent a substantive reform of the Citizens Review Board. Yup local media did go prince all the time last night.
From Immigration, must crossed my desk...
Of all of these, that one about climate change is critical for planetary survival. Nothing much after all.
Happy earth day.
Is that tin foil matching my complexion? I never know.
NRaleighLiberal
(61,857 posts)delivered some tomato seedlings to a local restaurant for them to grow for a future event - then to a nearby garden for demonstration...then I got to sit with some young people (as in kids!) at a library nearby and we told gardening stories for Earth Day.
And I've started discussions on a third book.
keeping it real here!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but today we even snorted coffee they are getting ghoulishly comedic.
NRaleighLiberal
(61,857 posts)because it is pretty much all slanted entertainment and product pushing.
So I've removed myself from the equation as best I can!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Trust me, it is hard, because we do OLD FASHIONED news. and you know what that means. From time to time I need to do the kitty up a tree... but still
NRaleighLiberal
(61,857 posts)We are watching the Sixties - and it is focusing on the JFK assassination and aftermath, including so much footage I've never seen. Just watching Walter Cronkite was a breath of fresh air. The loss of he, Daniel Schorr - so, so, so sad.
And since I was only 7 when it all happened, it staggered me how much time the news spent on the Warren commission and the various controversies. Fascinating stuff - they took the audience on a ride that today's audience would never really get to experience - clearly more respect for the intellect of audiences back then.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)we are covering a local trial, that involves a local sheriff and what I think was road rage.
It is the prelim... I am actually going over what each side said, and how they are building their case.
My local ABC affiliate, three people took the stand and told the story from each point of view.
That is it. I was like, you shit me? It is a hell of a contrast. The judge read the coverage and was surprised, since that is the way courts USED to be covered.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)And like you I know how the lack of truth affects those who are much younger. I include the loss of Walter Cronkite. When he finally announce the hour and the death of John Kennedy we all believed it. There was no reason to not believe that man. He was truth itself.
Sadly everything has changed so there is no inkling of what came before.
antigop
(12,778 posts)More US jobs replaced by h-1b visaholders.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I should actually write a story on that. I think I will. As I said, just went though my email box.
antigop
(12,778 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)best case known
antigop
(12,778 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)it is getting quite bad
antigop
(12,778 posts)12,000 layoffs. I'll bet they are replacing some of those jobs with h-1b's.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But this happens becuase my good friends at CNN are not covering the visa issues, or for that matter any major media. I just did, but I am a literal drop in the damn bucket.
antigop
(12,778 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)industry when you are past the age of 40.
FWIW -- it's not just H-1B. It's the L-1 visas as well.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and I doubt I am the only media getting them.
GreatGazoo
(4,608 posts)actual information is very tiring
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I just ran the story from H1B visas
I do not have to go ask my boss that will hire those workers for permission to run the story though.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)people don't want to hear it.
hay rick
(9,605 posts)or that's when it became really obvious. The focus on celebrities and irreconcilable disputes on social issues crowds out substantive exposition and discussion of critical issues. Popular ignorance benefits the few.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)infotainment or bust
Enthusiast
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but trillion is not something within most human's comprehension.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)amd will be remembered long after most other news of the day is forgotten. Of course, comparing episodic news like the death of one of the world's most famous artists with ongoing situation like climate change or H-1B caps being filled within days just like they are every single is completely disingenuous; the unusual news always gets higher priority because people are legitimately interested in it. But carry on patting yourself on the back, it's what you've always done best.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the death of a president is when news stopped, or used to. The death of an entertainer was not treated this way until relatively recently. Trust me, CNN-I, did not do this. Their audience is far more sophisticated and would not tolerate 24 - 7 coverage. They prove they can if you watch both channels side by side.
And by the way... climate change is far more significant than any of us. As to H1B visas, tell me when was the last time you saw that on CNN? Please do, link if possible.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)I swear that there were at least 20 network trucks there. It's just a block off a major highway. They had the whole side street blocked off filled with media trucks and law enforcement. I don't get it, what is the major freak out over a musicians death?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)it is very cheap to produce.
By the way, I get it, local news... good local boy makes good, dies, sure. I am betting there national and some foreign (entertainment) outlets.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)we speak with the guy who designed his studio.
No kidding, I'm watching the early news right now. Also talking to his 8th grade classmate.
They know Prince is popular and they are working it for ratings.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and people reward them with high ratings. We ran the obligatory story, with a statement from NAN, but that is it. I think the other stories, such as climate change, are that far more important... as in they will affect my life.
Hell, city hall we cover it. Traffic wise is a bad decision.
One of my local studios "dressed in purple." We are not even in the same state.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)Trying to find any non Prince local news has become very difficult.
Amy Klobuchar weighs in along with the governor. Another group is circulating a petition to rename the airport after Prince. Idiocracy has arrived.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)hopping they would break away from the trance... not such luck.
Someday historians will have fun writing of the rise and fall of the ro... er American empire, and our decadence.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)so are they going to water the crops with gatorade
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)After and brief break for the weather, we are now speaking with the man who built Prince's guitar. The guitar is now in the Smithsonian. Three viewings of Purple Rain in the area this weekend.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Now we return you to Prince.... oy vey...
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)We are talking to fans outside First Avenue. What will happen to Prince's studio. Will they do like Graceland and open it up to the public. We take an aerial look at Prince's nearby home. Rerun the 8th grade classmate and the studio designer.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and have all kinds of eyes on screen.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)to a musician that we really respected and wanted to do something nice.
no conspiracy-no cover up just a nice tribute
sometimes a flower is just ...a flower
Initech
(108,783 posts)Tomorrow on Infowars: The Obama administration murdered Prince! It was a false flag operation. They are coming to take your guns away!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)they sounded crestfallen when cause of death did not include usual suspects.
Granted Alex Jones will get far, far, far more creative. I might check with Beyond productions or something like that. I need the entertainment. Tough above top secret is far more fun than Alex Jones
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i try and stay away from msm
and what is "above top secret"? jeez am i missing something?
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I may be wrong, but spending just 1 day to remember a great man is nothing short of some display of self-respect.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)for one of the musical genius of this generation
I would guess that John Lennon would have gotten the same type of coverage
Melurkyoulongtime
(136 posts)Nadin. Please keep it up! Your reporting of the real news here is one of the reasons I've been lurking for quite some time (2001). I read all your stuff and will continue to do so as long as you post
Now if Time for change would just change his mind and begin posting again I'd be in heaven!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)so if I ever stop, that is where you can find us. (It is mostly two folks, but we really try)
Melurkyoulongtime
(136 posts)before when you've linked it here though I don't recall right now which paper it is
In my defense, I usually read several papers from around the globe a day as well as DU. Thanks to the internet I've become quite the news junkie in the last 15 years, lol, though the only complaint I have about that is it REALLY eats into my book reading. Thanks again for keeping me informed!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)what is happening in the United States.
reporting san diego.
Melurkyoulongtime
(136 posts)Yeah, I know the feeling. I started reading global news, jeez, just before I started coming here. I smelled a rat early, so to speak, and had been having to depend on The Daily Show, ffs, prior to getting internet service in my area. Such a shame it's come to this.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)but donations are accepted
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)as small as it is.
And we cover NEWS.
Question oh all seeing one, What are the requirements to cover a major candidate political rally? Well CREDENTIALS. Mine are up to date with the county, are yours?
What are the requirements to be allowed to photograph and record in state court? Credentials.
What are the requirements to go behind fire lines: Credentials,
All these credentials are well MEDIA CREDENTIALS. Mine were good enough for the United States Secret Service. Mostly they were issued by the San Diego Police Department.
What is required to be in the MEDIA PIT at City Hall? CREDENTIALS.
So you have teaching credentials, do you want me to start questioning your credentials? Becuase that is exactly what you are doing. We have chosen a very difficult route money flow wise. But we are still an accredited media outlet. And for some reason that chaps your hide. At this point it is quite humorous to see you do that this often. The joke is on you. I really do not know, or for that matter give two shits about it, it really chaps your hide. But you really should stop, It really makes you look silly given what we have covered, all of which requires those silly credentials. If we were just a hobby blog, we would not be getting access into all those places.
In fact, after Sanders was done, he went to the overflow room, and many of us were filing quick and short stories from our phones, and making jokes about lack of coffee or for that matter wi fi. A bunch of reporters, no wifi or coffee... THE HORROR!
And trust me the Secret Service is pretty picky about letting people in. In case you wonder, no Cruz did not have a Secret Service detail, but he still had security CHECK CREDENTIALS and so did the campaign. People without CURENT media credentials did not get in as well MEDIA.
I mean really must chap your hide to still be in this quixotic campaign of yours. And at this point, after we have covered all that, this is just extremely humorous. You know who else does this shit? I'll tell you, Conservatives who hate media. Are you one?
A HERETIC I AM
(24,876 posts)if you ever proof read a post or anything else you write, for that matter.
Just curious.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)really.
Have a nice day. Another who gets his hide chapped over this I suppose. I did not know (Well I did) that DU was such a nice conservative place.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,876 posts)It's a question, OK?
I am not suggesting your information is wrong, nor am I attacking you personally.
But I do question your writing style, as someone who calls herself a "Journalist". I understand English may not be your primary language, but if you were to read what you write before you post you may often find your syntax needs work.
That's all I am suggesting. Read what you write before you post.
Thanks. You too.
Why in the world would I get my "hide chapped" over anything you are involved with? Who gives a fuck if you are associated with a news outlet in San Diego? Good for you! Well done! Proof reading is important!
Suggesting someone who claims to be a journalist simply proofread before posting makes DU a conservative place?
Wow. That's a stretch of logic I haven't seen in quite a long time.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)must be a talking point, or just coincidence.
At this pint I take DU very seriously, really, when it comes to this shit
You must understand, after years of this shit, this is just predictable and highly amusing. The goal of driving me away almost worked. After reading into bully behavior... all this is highly predictable and funny as hell.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,876 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:03 PM - Edit history (1)
You are entirely too THIN SKINNED.
I did not comment on a spelling error. I commented on your apparent lack of proofreading.
I don't think it is out of the ordinary, nor is it unreasonable to suggest - I am MERELY suggesting - that you, as someone who touts their "credentials" as a journalist, actually do one of the most basic procedures before publishing.
If you think that is bully behavior or an attempt to run you off, then I submit you have very thin skin.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)nice
Really you should try harder.
And thanks for calling me young. None has done that in years.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,876 posts)You just can't take criticism of any kind. You reject it out of hand, and instead of taking it in the spirit in which it is intended (to hopefully make you a better writer, or at least more careful) you insist I am bullying you.
The last time you and I had an exchange was at least a couple years ago, when you answered a question about the term "Risk Free Rate" regarding investing. When I asked you to tell me what that was, you couldn't do it and when I asked you to explain a Treasury rate quote that you had brought up, instead of simply saying "I am not familiar with that" or "I am not sure how that works" you insisted you had the answer and were completely and utterly wrong! When I pointed that out to you, you essentially threw your hands up in the air, deleted all your posts in the sub-thread and buggered off, saying I was "brutal".
Nadin, I appreciate the fact that you actually go out and collect news. I appreciate the fact that you are passionate about what you do, but for you to insist you are being bullied simply because you are getting some gentle criticism, speaks volumes.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)because it is quite adorable at this point,
Tell me more, Mr Freud
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)sad really
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)once you get the behavior it is actually hysterical.
And you have yet to address the OP, as in why media needs to do this shit... but Roman circuses were also a symptom of the decline of Rome. Go ask your friends in the social sciences about that.
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the you are drunk attack, Fascinating, Tell me more.
So what else am I doing this morning. But if you must know, two cups of coffee. Thanks for caring that much
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)You wrote: "At this pint..." which I thought was a rather amusing typo. I'm not real sure how that can be construed as an "attack", unless you perhaps consider "Absolute proof" as another thinly veiled reference to your state of inebriation.
Fact is Nadin, that especially in the context of your self-proclaimed journalistic prowess, your writing would make an English teacher cringe. Not an attack, just some--hopefully constructive--criticism.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Designated hitter.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)take a picture of the paper with the current date and your picture then i can believe
i don't come on here and use my teaching to make myself seem more important than i am-so you can't use that analogy
if you do run a real paper, i have offered to proof it for you
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)why should I provide you with essentially a police issued ID? Or are you going to provide me a copy of your passport or any other ID that could be used for identity theft?
here is the evidence of what I just posted... but you will keep denying it.
https://reportingsandiego.com/2016/04/12/2000-san-diegans-attend-cruz-rally/
Media credentials required for me to get that close to Cruz
https://reportingsandiego.com/2016/03/23/13000-san-diegans-came-to-hear-senator-bernie-sanders/
Media credentials required by the Secret Service of the United States...those photos were NOT taken from the public POV, we were behind mostly the public.
https://reportingsandiego.com/2016/04/20/state-of-mind-during-the-confrontation-between-branch-and-detective-ward/
Media credentials required under CA law to take those photos.
Here you go, the actual order from the COURT. Make whatever you want about that, m'kay.
http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/SDCOURT/GENERALINFORMATION/PACO2/NEWSANDMEDIA/010416-03%20-%20PHOTOGRAPHY%20AND%20BROADCASTING%20IN%20COURTHOUSE.PDF
https://reportingsandiego.com/2015/06/17/wild-fire-at-barona-reservation-at-150-acres/
Media credentials required
https://reportingsandiego.com/2015/02/10/mike-montana-surrenders-to-sdpd-swat/
Media credentials required. We were within the PD perimeter for media.
https://reportingsandiego.com/2016/01/05/fire-responds-to-reported-partial-collapse/
Media credentials required. Again we were within the perimeter set by SDFD.
https://reportingsandiego.com/2015/12/16/san-diego-city-council-passes-historic-climate-action-plan/
From the Media pit, media credentials required.
https://reportingsandiego.com/2015/02/05/environmental-impact-report-on-solar-in-boulevard-accepted-by-county/
Again, media pit, credentials required.
Keep it up, but perhaps I need to start questioning YOUR TEACHING CREDENTIALS and teaching ability on very much a lack of analytical ability.
Now the obvious question is, why do you hate independent media? This is a conservative trait I think. So why do you hate independent media?
Oh and one more thing... papers these days, recognized media outlets, are not all the time physical any longer. I know this really chaps your hide.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)You seem to be in danger of losing the plot. Perhaps you need to take a deep breath and dial back on the paranoia level. No-one is bullying you. One would have thought that a journalist would have a thicker skin.
By the way, regarding your comment about world news - Obama is an amiable clown and no-one here is fooled by his "special relationship" drivel. Whatever the US's reason for wanting us to stay in the EU, no-one here, apart from those desperate to stay on the right side of the neighbourhood bully, gives a fuck.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)whatever dude
Is this bully day? Was I the designated target for the day?
Funny as shit. And no, I am not paranoid at all. Take my word on this, From time to time you guys do this shit. It is hysterical at this point.
And since I think you are posting for the UK, I did not make any comment about the special relationship, I just pointed out what he did. I find the photos of him and the young Prince to be quite the propaganda coup though. And will not matter in 50 years like some here believe they will.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)i am sad that traditional papers are drying up for this 'new-fangled' blog style. i don't like it
to me a respected journalist should have a source in the written form that one can pick up and read and smell and turn pages.
and that has absolutely nothing to do with my teaching -as again i don't come on here and tout my teaching abilities as the best and only source or how much better i am than anyone else
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Not surprised you are still trying hard to discredit it.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)and that is all
a paper is something tangible that you can hold, smell, turn pages
anything else is a blog
call me old fashioned but i like physical papers.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Then it's a "paper".
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)the blog is just a collections of one person's point of view of what that one person deems is news worthy like blades from wind farms bouncing miles away, or once a list of eating better that i had read on a former food blog passed off as a new rsd informational interest...
or who could forget about all that canned milk to be needed
i guess i am not into conspiracies so it doesn't make much sense...that hobby blog i tend to get my news from credible journalists
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But paper is going away.
And I from now on will point out your lack of critical thinking skills. We are even. If you were teaching my kids I would remove them from your class
The attempt at discrediting is the lowest of the issues of concern
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)i would not want them
they would drive me crazy if they were anything like mama
the editing on the writing scales would be exhausting
i realize the paper is going away. i don't have to like it.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)hobby blog
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)It must be the conservative in you
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)i usually get in trouble for being absolutely democratic ...haha
thank you
i am not trying to discredit anything or any one. never have
i just point out the truth
a hobby blog does not a paper make.
and there was nothing wrong with media focusing on the death of one of the most musical genius of our time
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)For the record, that is the least of the issues at this point. But surely this is fucking hilarious.
An inability to learn is a far more serious concern. And of course hating independent non corporate media, which As a teacher is actually minor.
Connie and I will enjoy the popcorn.
Please proceed, at this point this is performance art, bad performance art, but art nonetheless.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)For a grammar nazi you surely meant "that paper" not "the paper." But I am sure the red pen with catch it
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)oh and before you find it
my keypad is broken and some of my keys are not working
how is your baby bird- bet it is missing its sibling. hope you are doing okay. have you picked out a new one
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)moldy food, bird poop all over walls and weeks old food might not be the best environment to be bringing a new baby into the cage
have you decided on your new wing baby yet
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Bullies gotta bully
I am sure you are an extremely good teacher that condones the class bully as well.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)did you go to journalism school/
are there any tests to be recognized as such/
any special organizations/
or
can anyone put anything on a hobby blog and call it 'nooz' as you say/
see other professions attend a lot of schooling, take state/federal required tests and pass them before we are allowed to practice our profession
big big difference.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Of discrediting. It is kind of humorous. You should try stand up.
Oh and you can research that yourself. I am sure you are capable of using the Google. SNORT!!!!!
Next time warn me though. The poor iPhone...Oy guevalt poor phone!!!
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)but thanks for proving you have no information.
have a nice day
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)With this quixotic campaign of yours. My credentials are by my computer. I do this shit. I need to prove nothing to the bully. But you are adorable.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)my work here is done
have a wonderful day
proceed onward
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Or your fantasy? I am still concerned about you in the classroom. A bully as a teacher is really concerning
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)but please proceed
last word...yours
Quantess
(27,630 posts)than...
the birth of a "royal" baby
Ms Kaitlyn Jenner and her obnoxious Kardashian family
Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But when CNN cannot be distinguished from oh TMZ
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I am glad they are honoring Prince in this way. It will be over in a few days. Be patient.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Just not the only news. We used to do this only for Presidents. That's the point. By the way, trump taking a dump is hardly news either
lunatica
(53,410 posts)When I die there will be no offspring to follow me since my son died. I wonder many time, even in my grief, if that isn't a very good thing.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)democrank
(12,598 posts)a 60-something woman entered and asked the clerk for her saved newspaper, the Boston Globe. She told me, "I just like to hold a newspaper in my hands", which honestly made my day.
I`m truly sorry for the loss suffered by Prince`s family, friends and fans, but mainstream media should question their obsessive celebrity coverage which always sucks the time away from other (and sometimes more important) national and international news.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)TMZ. E-Tonight, I get it.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)i make my students do current events.
i also have a really great scavenger hunt exercise activity i lead them through so they learn how to read a newspaper-learn how to use the index and how some stories might be scattered throughout the paper
when the world goes paper free, it will be a shame
kwassa
(23,340 posts)I will also apologize for other people who don't have the same priorities as you.
We are so sorry.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)by the way, US media used to do this ONLY when presidents died.
And they STILL MANAGED to cover other news.
They can do it. In fact, CNN-I does regularly.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)so, to spell it out clearly.
MFM008
(20,042 posts)Prince will be long gone, focus back on politics.