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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:08 AM Apr 2016

WOW! A sitting United States Senator opening soliciting the FBI to commit a crime.

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U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley suggested on Friday that the FBI might leak reports of its investigation into presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state.

Grassley, Iowa’s senior senator and chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said an anonymous and unauthorized release of FBI investigative materials could result if officials at the agency believed prosecution of Clinton was stymied for political reasons.

“Is there going to be political interference? If there’s enough evidence to prosecute, will there be political interference?” Grassley wondered aloud during a breakfast meeting with the Des Moines A.M. Rotary club on Friday. “And if there’s political interference, then I assume that somebody in the FBI is going to leak these reports and it’s either going to have an effect politically or it’s going to lead to prosecution if there’s enough evidence.”

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“I wouldn’t be encouraging it because if it’s a violation of law, I can’t be encouraging a violation of law,” he said. “This is kind of my own opinion, this is something I’ve heard.
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http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2016/04/22/grassley-fbi-could-leak-clinton-email-investigation/83385362/

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WOW! A sitting United States Senator opening soliciting the FBI to commit a crime. (Original Post) kpete Apr 2016 OP
Plus, of course this has to drag out until impeachment hearings start in 2017 Va Lefty Apr 2016 #1
Wow a candidate for POTUS under FBI Investigstion! onecaliberal Apr 2016 #2
SHE IS NOT itcfish Apr 2016 #5
There is an ongoing FBI investigation happening CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #6
Can you cite a reputable source where the FBI states that Hillary is under investigation? Kaleva Apr 2016 #15
Here you go itcfish Apr 2016 #25
So she isn't Kaleva Apr 2016 #27
She is not the target of the investigation Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2016 #18
The FBI is investigating her use of the server CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #37
Exactly. The email server is the target, not Sec Clinton herself FrodosPet Apr 2016 #38
The reason that the FBI in investigating CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #39
In fact rock Apr 2016 #42
There you go itcfish Apr 2016 #26
That's sarcasm, right? Marr Apr 2016 #7
Did you forget the sarcasm thingy, or do you actually believe what you said? thereismore Apr 2016 #29
Wake up. 840high Apr 2016 #40
But it's her turn! Hillary must not be stopped! AZ Progressive Apr 2016 #12
The only ones who keep repeating 'her turn' are you and yours. randome Apr 2016 #30
What do you mean, you people? Renew Deal Apr 2016 #36
Wonder how many impeachments will be going. As many as ACA? 61 plus? Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #3
If she truly did nothing wrong then this isn't a big deal. Matt_in_STL Apr 2016 #4
They could start impeaching her now. They don't have to wait for her to be elected. yodermon Apr 2016 #8
What? sharp_stick Apr 2016 #10
impeachment is a purely political operation. yodermon Apr 2016 #13
it's a political decision, but with respect to certain specific office-holders. unblock Apr 2016 #28
She currently doesn't hold a federal office dlwickham Apr 2016 #41
A thread about a Republican crime and the DU trolls attack Democrats Democat Apr 2016 #9
Absolutely sharp_stick Apr 2016 #11
What Republican crime? frylock Apr 2016 #14
Encouraging the FBI to leak info if Republicans don't get what they want? Democat Apr 2016 #19
I wouldn’t be encouraging it because if it’s a violation of law, I can’t be encouraging a violation frylock Apr 2016 #21
Soliciting an FBI leak leftynyc Apr 2016 #20
I must have missed that part. frylock Apr 2016 #22
Oh, well, as long as he said those words at the end, nothing else matters, right? randome Apr 2016 #32
Where, SPECIFICALLY, is he soliciting the FBI to leak evidence? frylock Apr 2016 #34
I'd like to second the "what Republican crime?". Marr Apr 2016 #16
Amen. Nothing matters except tearing down Democrats. Hekate Apr 2016 #17
this obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #23
Damn right it does. Sick of this shit. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #35
watch as Sen. Grassley and others cast themselves upon the jagged rocks of inevitability 0rganism Apr 2016 #24
Actually, there is nothing in that quote proving he encouraged anything. "Assume" is not "encourage" thereismore Apr 2016 #31
october surprise...ya know its coming dembotoz Apr 2016 #33

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
1. Plus, of course this has to drag out until impeachment hearings start in 2017
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016
 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
2. Wow a candidate for POTUS under FBI Investigstion!
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:14 AM
Apr 2016

If the republicans were doing that you people would be howling.

itcfish

(1,835 posts)
5. SHE IS NOT
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:23 AM
Apr 2016

Under any investigation!! Why do you keep repeating the rightwing lie. She committed no crime. Geez.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. There is an ongoing FBI investigation happening
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

The FBI granted immunity to Brian Pagliano, the man who built her server. This is a full-blown investigation.

The FBI have begun interviewing Clinton's aids and Clinton will be interviewed as well.

What she has done is unprecedented.

Where on earth are you getting that conducting all State business on a homebrew, unsecured server that even the President didn't know about--is not a criminal activity? Furthermore, the FBI has all ready revealed that 22 of the emails recovered from her server were classified as "Top Secret". That classification is reserved for information that if made public, "Would cause serious or grave danger to the United States."

Either you are incredibly unaware and ignorant of the reality that is happening here, or you are just being cute.

I suggest you do some reading. This is an extremely serious matter that could upend our Democratic elections.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
15. Can you cite a reputable source where the FBI states that Hillary is under investigation?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
27. So she isn't
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

"Law enforcement officials have said that Mrs. Clinton, who is seeking the 2016 Democratic nomination for president, is not a target of the investigation,..."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/15/us/fbi-tracking-path-of-email-to-hillary-clinton-at-state-department.html?_r=1

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,958 posts)
18. She is not the target of the investigation
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016

n/t

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
37. The FBI is investigating her use of the server
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

The FBI is investigating Hillary's use of her private, homemade, unsecured email server, on which she sent emails containing classified and Top Secret Information.

The FBI said three weeks ago that the majority of their INVESTIGATION has concluded and that they will interview Clinton and her aids in the "coming weeks and months".

Why are they interviewing her...to swap recipies. Your bizarre attempt at damage control is ridiculous.

They are most certainly investigating the details surrounding her private email server, and that includes examining her emails. The FBI went to the trouble of recovering, reading and investigating the 30,000 emails that she deleted from her server.

What exactly is the FBI doing? Knitting Clinton a hat? Training for an Olympic swimming event?

You are beyond bizarre with your word parsing! What else does the FBI DO, beyond investigating?! You people are nutty!

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
38. Exactly. The email server is the target, not Sec Clinton herself
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:49 PM
Apr 2016
FBI formally confirms its investigation of Hillary Clinton’s email server

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/fbi-formally-confirms-its-investigation-hillary-clintons-email-server

02/08/16 05:30 PM—UPDATED 02/08/16 06:58 PM


In a letter disclosed Monday in a federal court filing, the FBI confirms one of the world’s worst-kept secrets: It is looking into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

Why say this at all, since it was widely known to be true? Because in August in response to a judge’s direction, the State Department asked the FBI for information about what it was up to. Sorry, the FBI said at the time, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any investigation.

Now, in a letter dated February 2 and filed in court Monday, the FBI’s general counsel, James Baker, notes that in public statements and congressional testimony, the FBI “has acknowledged generally that it is working on matters related to former Secretary Clinton’s use of a private email server.”

Baker says the FBI has not, however, “publicly acknowledged the specific focus, scope or potential targets of any such proceedings.”

~ snip ~

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
39. The reason that the FBI in investigating
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

is because Hillary Clinton used a home brew, unsecured email server in which she conducted all of her state business.

The existence of that email server is so serious. It's unprecedented. No high-level government official has done this before.

They're investigating Hillary's server. Which she owned. That was in her house. That she hired and paid someone to build.

If it somehow gives you great comfort to parse words and say that the FBI is investigating Hillary's illegal, unsecured, home brew server and the circumstances surrounding that server...Hey, whatever floats your boat!

rock

(13,218 posts)
42. In fact
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

"...it is not a criminal investigation." - Politifact.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
7. That's sarcasm, right?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
29. Did you forget the sarcasm thingy, or do you actually believe what you said?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
40. Wake up.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
12. But it's her turn! Hillary must not be stopped!
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
30. The only ones who keep repeating 'her turn' are you and yours.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

Renew Deal

(85,169 posts)
36. What do you mean, you people?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016
 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
3. Wonder how many impeachments will be going. As many as ACA? 61 plus?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:14 AM
Apr 2016
 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
4. If she truly did nothing wrong then this isn't a big deal.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

yodermon

(6,153 posts)
8. They could start impeaching her now. They don't have to wait for her to be elected.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

If the Senate convicts her she would be unable to take office.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
10. What?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

How could the Senate convict her of anything?

yodermon

(6,153 posts)
13. impeachment is a purely political operation.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

The House could indict (impeach) her, and then the Senate could convict her. The charge could be for picking her nose if they so desired.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
28. it's a political decision, but with respect to certain specific office-holders.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

yes, they can impeach presidents, vice-presidents, and judges for picking their noses.

but they can't impeach people who haven't taken those offices yet for any reason. impeachment simply doesn't apply.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
41. She currently doesn't hold a federal office
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

She can't be impeached by congress

Do people not understand how things work?



Democat

(11,617 posts)
9. A thread about a Republican crime and the DU trolls attack Democrats
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

This site needs a serious cleanup, and soon!

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
11. Absolutely
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

frylock

(34,825 posts)
14. What Republican crime?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

Democat

(11,617 posts)
19. Encouraging the FBI to leak info if Republicans don't get what they want?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

If a Democrat did the same thing, Republicans would be calling for investigations.

Instead, some DUers use it to bash one of the Democratic candidates for president.

It makes you wonder if some of the people posting might not want a Democrat to win after all.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
21. I wouldn’t be encouraging it because if it’s a violation of law, I can’t be encouraging a violation
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

I wouldn’t be encouraging it because if it’s a violation of law, I can’t be encouraging a violation of law.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. Soliciting an FBI leak
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

Funny how it only took 14 posts for some DUers to even forget what this OP was about. About par for the course these days.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
22. I must have missed that part.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

“I wouldn’t be encouraging it because if it’s a violation of law, I can’t be encouraging a violation of law,” he said. “This is kind of my own opinion, this is something I’ve heard.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
32. Oh, well, as long as he said those words at the end, nothing else matters, right?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:22 PM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

frylock

(34,825 posts)
34. Where, SPECIFICALLY, is he soliciting the FBI to leak evidence?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
16. I'd like to second the "what Republican crime?".
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
17. Amen. Nothing matters except tearing down Democrats.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
23. this
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

Kingofalldems

(40,279 posts)
35. Damn right it does. Sick of this shit.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

Colluding with right wing republicans because their boy hasn't gotten enough votes---or maybe some are actually repubs themselves.

0rganism

(25,647 posts)
24. watch as Sen. Grassley and others cast themselves upon the jagged rocks of inevitability
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

oh they'll squirm and squeal like howler monkeys, and in the end they'll either retire or adapt to the new dominant paradigm.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
31. Actually, there is nothing in that quote proving he encouraged anything. "Assume" is not "encourage"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016
 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
33. october surprise...ya know its coming
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016
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