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Trump slamming NATO allies for not paying their share (Original Post) Renew Deal Apr 2016 OP
I think that is politically smart. David__77 Apr 2016 #1
It's an unthinkable statement prior to this year. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #2
That's part of why it's politically smart. David__77 Apr 2016 #6
Military spending is the capitalist world’s fuel polly7 Apr 2016 #3
Fuck Trump. Pay for your own empire. malaise Apr 2016 #8
Exactly right, malaise. polly7 Apr 2016 #9
Oh dear, he butchered that pronunciation. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #4
And Sand Dernadino Renew Deal Apr 2016 #5
Why doesn't he remove US troops from malaise Apr 2016 #7

David__77

(23,369 posts)
6. That's part of why it's politically smart.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

I think it reinforces a narrative that Trump is authentic. Also, I think that Trump has a narrative that he will negotiate a better deal for the US than there is at present.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
3. Military spending is the capitalist world’s fuel
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

By Pete Dolack
Source: Systemic Disorder
April 21, 2016

The U.S. maintains military bases in 80 countries, and has military personnel in about 160 foreign countries and territories. Another way of looking at this question is the number of foreign military bases: The U.S. has around 800 while the rest of the world combined has perhaps 30, according to an analysis published in The Nation. Almost half of those 30 belong to Britain or France.

Asking others to pay more is endorsing imperialism

Is there some sort of altruism in the U.S. setting itself up as the gendarme of the world? Well, that’s a rhetorical question, obviously, but such self-deception is widespread, and not just among the foreign-policy establishment.

One line of critique sometimes heard, especially during this year’s presidential campaign, is that the U.S. should demand its allies “pay their fair share.” It’s not only from Right-wing quarters that phrase is heard, but even from Left populist Bernie Sanders, who insisted during this month’s Brooklyn debate with Hillary Clinton that other members of Nato ought to pay more so the Pentagon budget can be cut. Senator Sanders said this in the context of pointing out the superior social benefits across Europe as compared to the U.S., but what it really implies is that militarism is justified.


So why is U.S. military spending so high? It’s because the repeated use of force is what is necessary to maintain the capitalist system. As top dog in the world capitalist system, it’s up the to the U.S. to do what is necessary to keep itself, and its multi-national corporations, in the driver’s seat. That has been a successful project. U.S.-based multi-nationals hold the world’s highest share in 18 of 25 broad industrial sectors, according to an analysis in New Left Review, and often by commanding margins — U.S. multi-nationals hold at least a 40 percent global share in 10 of those sectors.

A partial list of U.S. interventions from 1890, as compiled by Zoltán Grossman, a professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington state, lists more than 130 foreign military interventions (not including the use of troops to put down strikes within U.S.). Consistently, these were used to impose U.S. dictates on smaller countries.

At the beginning of the 20th century, U.S. President William Howard Taft declared that his foreign policy was “to include active intervention to secure our merchandise and our capitalists opportunity for profitable investment” abroad. Taft overthrew the government of Nicaragua to punish it for taking a loan from a British bank rather than a U.S. bank, and then put Nicaragua’s customs collections under U.S. control and handed two U.S. banks control of Nicaragua’s national bank and railroad. Little has changed since, including the overthrows of the governments of Iran (1953), Guatemala (1954), Brazil (1964) and Chile (1973), and more recently the invasion of Iraq and the attempted overthrow of the Venezuelan government.

Muscle men for big business

We need only recall the statement of Marine Corps general Smedley Butler, who summarized his highly decorated career in 1935, in this manner:

“I spent thirty three years and four months [in] the Marine Corps. … [D]uring that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism.”


Full article: https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/military-spending-is-the-capitalist-worlds-fuel/


Fuck Trump. Pay for your own empire.

malaise

(268,903 posts)
8. Fuck Trump. Pay for your own empire.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:14 PM
Apr 2016

Precisely - he is telling the world that the US will be the only military might and then telling people in their own countries to pay for the US to remain that military might. Fuck Trump and the neo-cons

polly7

(20,582 posts)
9. Exactly right, malaise.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016

I have no interest in one red cent of my taxes going towards these atrocities - my money that provides health-care and other human rights - to maintain that overwhelming need for empire around the world? - nah ..... leave us the fuck alone. NATO being used in lying ways to destroy sovereign nations for greed and profit absolutely sickens me.

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