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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:21 AM

Oklahoma: Where raping an unconscious person's throat is legal if they were drinking.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/oklahoma-court-rules-that-forced-oral-sex-is-not-rape-if-victim-is-unconscious-from-drinking/


An Oklahoma court has stunned local prosecutors with a declaration that state law doesnít criminalize oral sex with a victim who is completely unconscious.

The ruling, a unanimous decision by the stateís criminal appeals court, is sparking outrage among critics who say the judicial system was engaged in victim-blaming and buying outdated notions about rape.

But legal experts and victimsí advocates said they viewed the ruling as a sign of something larger: the troubling gaps that still exist between the nationís patchwork of laws and evolving ideas about rape and consent.

The case involved allegations that a 17-year-old boy assaulted a girl, 16, after volunteering to give her a ride home. The two had been drinking in a Tulsa park with a group of friends when it became clear that the girl was badly intoxicated. Witnesses recalled that she had to be carried into the defendantís car. Another boy, who briefly rode in the car, recalled her coming in and out of consciousness.


Sorry if dupe, but it just hit my FB feed and I'm outaged.

I never actually thought my state, Arkansas, would have better laws regarding sexual assault than others, even Oklahoma. But despite the antiquated term "deviate sexual activity" to refer to oral, anal, or penetration with an object, it's all class Y Rape if the victim was unconscious -- even if the unconscious person consumed the alcohol or drugs willingly.

For our definitions:


(5) "Mentally incapacitated" means that a person is temporarily incapable of appreciating or controlling the person's conduct as a result of the influence of a controlled or intoxicating substance:

(A) Administered to the person without the person's consent; or

(B) That renders the person unaware a sexual act is occurring;

(7) "Physically helpless" means that a person is:

(A) Unconscious;

(B) Physically unable to communicate a lack of consent; or

(C) Rendered unaware a sexual act is occurring


Any of the above would have covered what happened in that case.

Oklahoma legislators have some work to do.

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elehhhhna Apr 2016 #3
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Response to moriah (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:28 AM

1. Your Last Line Nails It

I think the judges hands were tied, because the law is so badly constructed. As a fine point of law, it seems (not an expert) that the judges made the proper call, but the law needs to be changed, and now.

As it stands now, the law is an antiquated and ridiculous piece of drivel.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:34 AM

2. Seriously. I'm just surprised my own state's laws, being neighbors and both....

... relatively poor, extremely religious, and ran by Republicans...

Actually has better laws. Here's ours, for a link:

http://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/2014/title-5/subtitle-2/chapter-14/subchapter-1/

If they can't come up with something better, here's at least what we have.

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Response to moriah (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:14 AM

3. as soon as a man does this to another man they'll have a special session to make law

 

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:04 AM

4. Well, There's A Good Point

Great catch!

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