Rafael Cruz: "We were on our knees for two hours. At the end a word came through his wife, Heidi..."

[Miles Archer]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/rafael-cruz-ted-cruz-campaign-god-sign

Ted Cruz decided to run for president after God spoke to his wife, Heidi.

That's how Rafael Cruz, Ted's father and a born-again pastor, described his son's decision-making process. Speaking on a syndicated radio show at the end of last year, the elder Cruz recounted that during a Sunday prayer session at a Texas church, Ted Cruz and his family sought God's guidance as to whether the senator should enter the presidential race, and after two hours of praying, God sent a message to Heidi that essentially said: Go for it.

Here's the story, according to Rafael Cruz:

My son Ted and his family spent six months in prayer seeking God's will for this decision. But the day the final green light came on, the whole family was together. It was a Sunday. We were all at his church, First Baptist Church in Houston, including his senior staff. After the church service, we all gathered at the pastor's office. We were on our knees for two hours seeking God's will. At the end of that time, a word came through his wife, Heidi. And the word came, just saying, "Seek God's face, not God's hand." And I'll tell you, it was as if there was a cloud of the holy spirit filling that place. Some of us were weeping, and Ted just looked up and said, "Lord, here am I, use me. I surrender to you, whatever you want." And he felt that was a green light to move forward.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Seems like God tells a lot of people to run for President.

And I think he's fucking with them.

[leftofcool]

3. DUZY award!

[Chemisse]

6. There must be plenty of popcorn in heaven.

So God, et al, can all munch while they enjoy the show.

[Stinky The Clown]

15. Funniest Post Of The Month!

[AuntPatsy]

17. Lol needed that laugh, thanx .

[Retrograde]

33. but He seems not to have told anyone to vote for him (n/t)

[Scootaloo]

35. They never seem to ask WHICH god, though

Or allow for the possibility of other spirits having htem on.

But hten, maybe that's just me - I'm an all-or-nothing kind of guy, it's either atheism or polytheistic animism.

[tblue37]

49. You're like me. You tend to type "ht" for "th." Maybe we could work

part time as each other. Heh, heh, heh.

[Bucky]

51. Well, Mammon obviously. The same one they pray to

[Scootaloo]

63. Isn't he the one that made Fairuza Balk crazy that one time?

...Well... more crazy than she started out?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

44. She.

[Hortensis]

46. He is well known for using people in bets with Satan.

[monmouth4]

2. A very dangerous person who should not be in government let alone seek the Presidency

[tblue37]

50. Who, God? I also think God needs to stay out of politics and

that He is always a dangerous player in matters of politics and public policy.

(I know you meant Cruz, but I couldn't resist the straight line. Never can, frankly. It's a character flaw.)

[DustyJoe]

4. even scarier

then a prez cruz is a VP beck !

[tanyev]

5. They never consider the possibility that God wants them to run and lose.

[Chemisse]

7. A lesson in humility is just what the deity ordered!

Too bad so many of them miss the point altogether.

[csziggy]

9. The modern version of the trials of Job? nt

[hatrack]

26. More like the Trials Of "I Really Want This Job"

.

[Miles Archer]

13. Gotta be very careful with the things God "wants us to do."

In the wake of Boehner's comments about Cruz, Mother Jones ran an excellent (and exhaustive) piece on the many people who loathe Cruz, with all of the gory details.

And in typical "all roads lead to Rome" fashion, the common thread was that Cruz is a dick who does not play well with others. He invited himself to meetings he was never invited to, he was the prototype "self-proclaimed" expert...kinda the way George Zimmerman was a "self-appointed neighborhood watch" thug.

So yeah...maybe this was the only way God thought he could teach Cruz a lesson.

Or maybe he imagined it all because it fit his agenda.

[Kingofalldems]

8. So Jesus did anoint him.

So why doesn't Jesus tell everyone to vote for him?

[hatrack]

25. Not everybody was home when Jesus called.

Plus, lots of people screen their calls these days, so . . .

[CTyankee]

58. It would scare me to death if I picked the phone and someone said "Hi, this is Jesus callling you."

I'd be scared of being stalked...

[eppur_se_muova]

64. I got a call from Jesus about my credit card ...

seems I left it behind at the bodega when I charged my groceries. No harm done.

OK, if it you put the little accent in, it spoils the joke ...

[Gman]

31. Hatch Act

They've so thoroughly saturated government with him, he's now Hatched.

Or something....

[demtenjeep]

10. what a self-serving full of himself asshole

i will laugh at him when trump is the nominee and then trump gets his ass beat

[Chemisse]

11. So it came through Heidi?

She was probably thinking, Fuck this! I'm going to say some cryptic, yet holy-sounding statement and put an end to this 6-months-on-our-knees-in-prayer bullshit.

[Stallion]

20. "....Gawd Almighty Can We get some Lunch Before They Close!!!"

nm

[politicaljunkie41910]

28. Your post made me laugh til I cried. I was thinking something similar but you said it best.

[Chemisse]

41. LOL!! I know; I can just picture her thinking that. n/t

[rug]

12. A scummy egotist wrapped in phony humility.

[nruthie]

14. God seems to speak in riddles that make no sense to rational people.

What does that quote even mean? "Seek God's face, not God's hand?" Really?
Can someone please interpret this God-speak for me?

[demtenjeep]

16. maybe it meant stop thinking you are all that

the arrogance of that prick makes me sick

[Miles Archer]

18. Basically...

...I take it to mean that God's hand would be a set of circumstances in which Cruz was well-liked, admired, and carried a resume that make him Presidential material. Maybe a distinguished Military career, coupled with helping to write and pass legislation that showed him to be a leader with a keen interest in what is best for the American people. And as we all know, he did none of that. He battled to make dildos illegal in Texas and shut down the government. And even his own daughter shrinks away in disgust when he tries to hug her.

So God's face is basically God's word, which in the simplest terms is that on-his-knees Ted sees himself as the anointed one, so he probably dug into the Bible for things like Joseph being a slave in Pharaoh's house (Genesis 39). The punchline is that Joseph did his time and walked away with all the marbles. Read Cruz's reaction to the Boehner attack (I posed it yesterday, you can find it in GD). He thinks Boehner is pissed off because he is "energizing Republicans." See the connection? It's a classic persecution complex, so Ted dips into the Bible and channels every persecuted figure and sees "God's face" in it, and feels that all of the hatred and lack of respect is proof that he is the anointed one.

[dembotoz]

19. She says god my sore knees..rafeal hears god we surely need

Throw in some speaking in tongues and boom it's profesy

[juxtaposed]

21. these ppl are downright scary

[NightWatcher]

22. It's a mental illness. He should be allowed to use scissors, much less run for office

[Frustratedlady]

23. God couldn't have been too sure about his endorsement...

Surely, He could have made up his mind more quickly than 2 hours of kneeling. It didn't take any time at all for Him to create the earth.


I don't think I'd rely on His word, he was just playin' with ya...just sayin'.

[randome]

45. He's got a thing for knees. Don't judge.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

[hatrack]

24. "God DAMNIT, my knees hurt!! Jesus CHRIST, are we FINISHED YET?!!?!?"

Delusional douchecanoes, one and all.

You talk to God, that's prayer. God talks to you, that's schizophrenia.

[desmiller]

27. I didn't know horseflies were religious.

[spanone]

29. ted is....

[Pakid]

30. God must have a very sick sense of humor

Misleading poor Ted like that. But then they do say that no one likes Ted. I guess that even includes God.

[DesertRat]

32. k&r!

[mike_c]

34. that is batshit crazy, right there....

'Round the bend, utterly delusional shit for brains psycho. Bug fuck crazy. Somewhere there is a straight jacket yearning to embrace Ted Cruz.

[2naSalit]

36. And was that before or after

that $500K loan she got him or was that a different prayer? Bet that one didn't take six months!

It seems they always listen to those voices in their head.

[Miles Archer]

39. With the Cruz family, "receiving a word" definitely has a Son of Sam flavor to it.

Remember Jethro Tull's "Hymn 43" from "Aqualung?"

If Jesus saves -- well, He'd better save Himself from the gory glory seekers who use His name in death

"In death" is basically Christian shorthand for:

Cruz: "Jesus told my wife to tell my wife that he wants me to run for President."

Jesus: "No I didn't."



I can already hear Cruz's concession speech, about how he will be undeterred in doing God's work for the American people.

[2naSalit]

62. Indeed!

Hadn't thought about the lyrics to that song in a long time! And you are correct! and then there's the American Indian perspective on the gory glory seekers...

It's 8+ minutes but lyrics are so powerful, especially the part where he - John Trudell - says,

"To god, we don't mean any disrespect but we want to talk to you about these christians..."

And what follows pretty much says it all for me. I spend a good part of my time with Indians and participate in some of their cultural events so I see this up close and personal often.

[Ghost in the Machine]

37. "We were on our knees for two hours seeking God's will. At the end of that time, a word came through

his wife, Heidi."....

Sounds like an opium-filled orgy!

Ghost

[Miles Archer]

40. It's like that time The Eagles, at the time of their first album, went out to Joshua Tree desert...

...and loaded up on peyote so they could watch the sun come up while out of their skulls.

Cruz has taken the special brand of insane zealotry we've come to know and love from people like Santorum and Bachmann and run with it.

I see no coincidence in the fact that the articles touting how "GOP Elites" are "warming up to" Trump appeared within 24 hours of Cruz's Fiorina announcement. Sometimes enough is enough, you know? No matter what we may think of Republicans, I do believe that in 2016, they understand that they are screwed no matter which way they turn.

1). Donald Trump...beaten to a pulp in the GE

2). Ted Cruz...take that Trump pulp and beat it even more mercilessly, leaving egg-stained faces on the GOP that will endure for the next few election cycles

3), Draft Paul Ryan...revolt, anger, and a lifetime of bad P.R. for the party

So Trump really has become the lesser of three evils, and man oh man, is that tragic.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

38. god picked dubya too, so he has a bad track record!

[pnwmom]

42. "Seek God's face, not God's hand" does not mean, if you're sane, "Run for President."

[randome]

43. Was it a word or a fart that came through Heidi?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

[KG]

47. religion - justifying shitbaggery since, well, damn near forever

[A HERETIC I AM]

48. There's never a 2X4 around when you need one.

[Bucky]

52. !!!

thanks for that one

[Kip Humphrey]

53. Doesn't ""Seek God's face, not God's hand."" mean

something akin to the more colorful, "Die, motherfucker, I'm not helping you!"?

[Bucky]

54. What does 'Seek God's face, not God's hand,' even mean?

I thought only Moses could see God's face. Is there a view of God's face from the White House?

And why should we not seek God's hand? I thought that's what God was there for.

[Botany]

55. And the Lord apoke and he said, ...

.... "Ted get thee to a hooker and have her spank you w/my staff."

[merrily]

56. The only place Cruz could look for God's face was in the Oval Office?

By any chance, at the time, was God's face doing this



or this

[SusanCalvin]

57. That's plain delusional. nt

[mr blur]

59. These people are even more deluded and ignorant,

than the average believer who hears voices from their invisible friend.

[Brickbat]

60. Two HOURS? Who has that kind of time?

[malaise]

61. Well her imaginary friend must be preparing her

for a red light end to the campaign -fugging morons.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

65. I'll see your cruz and raise you one rubio!