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The Obamas are the finest family to inhabit the White House in my entire life (Original Post) Fresh_Start Apr 2016 OP
I thought about this the other day and I got misty eyed. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #1
You were born after 1980? inchhigh Apr 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #5
I prefer the Obama's to the Carters Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #6
Amy got mean treatment the Obama kids have been mostly spared, that's for sure. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #7
yes, nothing shows character like attacking children Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #9
true heaven05 Apr 2016 #10
My right wing mother & I had the worst fight over that. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #14
The Obama girls were home when someone shot the white house with a high powered assault rifle IronLionZion Apr 2016 #26
Let's not talk about Billy, shall we? MrScorpio Apr 2016 #12
It took me a minute to place that. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #15
I never had any of that stuff MrScorpio Apr 2016 #17
It was a flash fad. Didn't last. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #3
I was born in 1958. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #44
I don't judge Presidents on their... Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #4
+1000 heaven05 Apr 2016 #8
This is the first president and first lady that are younger than I am. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2016 #11
He has handled the hate & disrespect shown toward him & his family with grace. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #13
One of a few good families in my lifetime. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #16
Will you be saying that, after Obama signs the TPP ?? In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida Apr 2016 #19
Yes, I will Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #21
Good, then ask him for a copy of the TPP ! In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida Apr 2016 #45
To-do List: 1. Join Democratic Underground; 2. Piss on someone's well–intentioned family post. NBachers Apr 2016 #22
Indeed. I am always... 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #61
My to-do list: 1. Put jackass on ignore. johnp3907 Apr 2016 #71
.... YoungDemCA Apr 2016 #24
Hell yes I'll still be saying it!!! Stonepounder Apr 2016 #25
Can't stand the TPP, but it has nothing to do with the Obamas as a family. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #39
Yes, I will because I can dislike his policy without denying jwirr Apr 2016 #49
Obama wont sign the TPP Egnever May 2016 #73
I was born in 1960. The Obamas are a fine family, but rateyes Apr 2016 #20
The Carters were a fine family Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #28
Jimmy Carter sent Amy to Public School katmondoo Apr 2016 #32
Maybe he believed, as I do, in public education. rateyes Apr 2016 #69
I'll go along pressbox69 Apr 2016 #23
Carter was a far far better man than Obama could ever be. yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #27
Carter was great too. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #36
Carter is a great man... but thats an unfair comparison and full of hyperbolic bullshit. phleshdef May 2016 #78
We disagree yourpaljoey May 2016 #82
I am grateful for President Obama. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #29
Did you not like the Kennedy's or are you too young? n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #30
Too young Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #33
I need to correct that Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #57
You're right, she wanted people to see what had been done to him Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #74
I liked their public persona and I think they brought a level jwirr Apr 2016 #51
I don't know how old you are but that's a pretty low bar tularetom Apr 2016 #31
I think you can make a strong case for either... BobTheSubgenius Apr 2016 #34
The first WH family I remember was named Truman mainstreetonce Apr 2016 #37
The Truman's were not all that bad except that they were jwirr Apr 2016 #53
Absolutely. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #35
You must not have been born before 1980. nt valerief Apr 2016 #38
I am afraid I will never see another president I admire as much in my lifetime Egnever Apr 2016 #40
Exactly nt Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #41
I agree but I am older and I think Jimmy Carter and his jwirr Apr 2016 #42
I am also a fan for President Carter Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #46
I also think the Obamas are a wonderful family, love Michelle and the POTUS is a caring Dad Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #75
Thank you. jwirr May 2016 #83
no one matches Miss Lillian greymouse Apr 2016 #43
I'm sorry I don't know the reference. nt Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #48
That was Jimmy Carter's mother. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #62
I'm already having Obama withdrawl Politicub Apr 2016 #47
I liked the Ford family. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2016 #50
thanks for sharing Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #52
It didn't hurt that Steve was an excellent babe. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2016 #55
how did I not know that at that time Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #58
While I have been disappointed in Obama on several issues,... HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #54
What you said. Exactly.... Bigmack Apr 2016 #59
K&R Ernesto Apr 2016 #56
I agree Scootaloo Apr 2016 #60
he's ok Demonaut Apr 2016 #63
I've had two. The Carters and the Obamas. Pakhet Apr 2016 #64
They are a wonderful family! nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #65
K&R nt. Stellar Apr 2016 #66
will this swooniness soon be over Skittles Apr 2016 #67
Not likely Egnever May 2016 #81
A very nice OP ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #68
Me too. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2016 #70
Very Classy Family imari362 May 2016 #72
Greatest president, finest family mwrguy May 2016 #76
Obama is such a nice man with a beautiful family. Lunabell May 2016 #77
It all feels kind of unfair, like Obama is really starting to hit his stride. phleshdef May 2016 #79
nice enough people hfojvt May 2016 #80

Response to inchhigh (Reply #2)

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
6. I prefer the Obama's to the Carters
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:16 AM
Apr 2016

Not that there was anything wrong about President Carters family.
But more that the Obama family has shown incredible grace in a much uglier environment.
While Presidents Carter family had to put up with a lot, they didn't have to put up with he's not an american crap.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. Amy got mean treatment the Obama kids have been mostly spared, that's for sure.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

GOP was also very very terrible to Chelsea Clinton as a child, called her the WH dog.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
9. yes, nothing shows character like attacking children
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:26 AM
Apr 2016

But the Obama children had to hear that the father was anti-american, anti-christian, muslim, traitor, ....and many other horrible things..
not to mention all the crap thrown at the First Lady.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. true
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:30 AM
Apr 2016

yet I can NEVER remember, I'm late 60's in age, when the vacation of Amy, Chelsea or those two wild bush daughters vacation spots were revealed as they were with Michelle and her two daughters by the republicans. That was mean and dangerous. Every time something unprecedented happened to the first AA POTUS, it was noted. Long list of racially motivated misdeeds and outright traitorous behavior toward the man and his wonderful family.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
26. The Obama girls were home when someone shot the white house with a high powered assault rifle
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

and they've endured numerous security breaches and death threats and recently someone tried to steal their dog.

Conservative news and radio hosts have made insulting comments about the girls too.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
15. It took me a minute to place that.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016


I worked part time at a grocery store & one Christmas Eve someone came in & said, "They have Billy Beer at the liquor store next door." I knew right then what to get my step-father - two six packs of Billy Beer & a few cans of sardines. The family loved that they got to see/sip Billy Beer.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
17. I never had any of that stuff
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

I wasn't drinking in those days. I didn't turn 21 until 1982 and still I never started drinking.

Response to Fresh_Start (Original post)

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
44. I was born in 1958.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

So.... you didn't like the Kennedys?

Of course "finest" is a kinda vague term....

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
11. This is the first president and first lady that are younger than I am.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

I'm 2 years and 2 months older the the President and 4 years and 6 months older then Mrs. Obama.

I agree with your sentiment completely. I just like the guy. His sense of humor, hell, his comedic timing is frankly professional grade! His deadpan looks when he is kidding someone......

And this;



A pic I put up in a thread a little over a year ago.

There are so many...his incredibly charming love of children and their instant love for him right back.

God dammit, I WANT a Constitutional Scholar as a President, not some dopey, loudmouthed buffoon or Bible thumping nimrod.


You're damned right I'll miss him. If he could run again he would win in a landslide, of this I have no doubt.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
13. He has handled the hate & disrespect shown toward him & his family with grace.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:21 AM
Apr 2016

They all have. I am so ashamed of my fellow Americans who have disrespected this man.

On a happier note, has there ever been a president so loved by kids? He's a natural with them. Here's one of my faves:



Remember when the little black boy asked the Prez if his hair was like his & the Prez leans over & says, "Touch it dude."

I'm old enough to remember the Carter family & they were a nice family in the WH, too. It would be interesting to do a study & see if having children in the WH encourages other children to pay attention to politics more. ???

45. Good, then ask him for a copy of the TPP !
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

After he gives you 100 excuses why he can't show it to you, just keep telling yourself; "he believes is the best course of action".

3catwoman3

(23,950 posts)
61. Indeed. I am always...
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

...mystified by those who feel compelled to spread their negativity anywhere and everywhere.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
25. Hell yes I'll still be saying it!!!
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

Just because I don't agree with every single thing that Obama, Michelle and the girls do doesn't mean they aren't great. If I agreed with every thing the President did for the last 8 years it would mean that I had been elected President. Hell, I don't even agree with everything my spouse has done over the last eight days, let alone years (and I can't imagine being married to anyone else). You don't like Obama? Fine, then don't vote for him.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
49. Yes, I will because I can dislike his policy without denying
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:56 PM
Apr 2016

the other values that he has brought to the WH.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
73. Obama wont sign the TPP
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:12 AM
May 2016

It wont come to his desk before his term is over.

TPP is far from a done deal.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
28. The Carters were a fine family
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

but I do believe that the environment is so much uglier today that they have been under constant attack...and its their grace while dealing with the horror of the GOP, tea party, birthers, .... that is one of the reasons I so admire them.

The Carter family had to deal with being politically attacked and demeaned as peanut farmers...
but they didn't have to deal with the birthers...and other crap from the right.

President Carter was a visionary and a fine and decent man.

katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
32. Jimmy Carter sent Amy to Public School
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

This was a disaster for her as the daughter of a President with the secret service guarding her. I think she felt out of place and was probably taunted. She said years later how unhappy she was. Carter wanted to look like an everyday ordinary citizen at the cost of his daughters happiness.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
69. Maybe he believed, as I do, in public education.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:24 PM
Apr 2016

I am not demeaning the Obamas, but to say the family is finer is an insult to the Carters. They both have fine families.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
78. Carter is a great man... but thats an unfair comparison and full of hyperbolic bullshit.
Sun May 1, 2016, 04:08 AM
May 2016

I believe President Carter would agree.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
29. I am grateful for President Obama.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:10 PM
Apr 2016

He and his family have maintained grace and dignity in the face of a lot of hate. I wish them well in their new journey

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
57. I need to correct that
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

Jacqueline seemed more like an ornament than Michelle
But I very much admire what I read about her actions after the assassination.
I might be misremembering what I read but I think she refused to change her clothing because she wanted people to see the aftermath...rather than matching peoples expectations of her being a cover model.

Rhiannon12866

(204,779 posts)
74. You're right, she wanted people to see what had been done to him
Sun May 1, 2016, 03:20 AM
May 2016

After he was shot, she tried to hold him together until they forced her to let go when they reached the hospital. Heartbreaking.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
51. I liked their public persona and I think they brought a level
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:59 PM
Apr 2016

of sophistication to the WH that many others did not BUT John was a womanizer like Bill.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
31. I don't know how old you are but that's a pretty low bar
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016

In my lifetime, FDR and LBJ were the two presidents who accomplished the most for the people, but I wouldn't hold either of them up as a role model for my kids. Jimmy Carter was a nice family man, but very limited in terms of his presidential achievements. First families since 1980 have pretty much sucked until the Obamas.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
34. I think you can make a strong case for either...
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

...the Obamas or the Carters. President Carter's character and innate goodness has been on display for decades.

He went out and helped build houses for low-income families with his own hands. A former President could easily be excused for sending a cheque instead.

There is nothing I could add that would make more of a case for the character of the current President. I'm certainly not demeaning either...at least, I hope I'm not.


And, on an anecdotal level, a little parallel that involved my wife some years ago. She worked for many years at Boys and Girls Club and rose to direct a flagship club in Florida. A surprising number of celebrities had been Club Kids in their youth and were always ready to give back - lending their presence and fame to raise funds and awareness. Denzel was at the top of that list, but that's not what this story is about.

My wife worked hard all day, which was normal for these events, and had a nice day with two volunteers that she didn't know. At the end of the day, she said "I should have introduced myself much sooner, but thank you for your hard work."

The couple turned out to be du Ponts. Yes, those du Ponts, but I'm not sure which ones. Softened my opinion of them, for sure.

At the other end of the scale, and something I hope gives some people a little smirk...one of the celebs she once worked with turned out to be as big an asshole in person as you might expect from his public persona
- Bill O'Reilly.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
37. The first WH family I remember was named Truman
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:38 PM
Apr 2016

And I agree the Obamas are the finest example of a WH family.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
40. I am afraid I will never see another president I admire as much in my lifetime
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:46 PM
Apr 2016

You can certainly argue with some of the things he has done in his presidency but I have never seen another president work as tirelessly to try to do what he felt was right by the american people or do it with such amazing grace in the face of so many reprehensible attacks on his character and family.

Michelle particularly has been an amazing first lady If she ran tomorrow I would vote for her in heart beat.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
42. I agree but I am older and I think Jimmy Carter and his
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

family were pretty good also. What I love about President Obama is not his policy (I hate the TPP and other economic ideas) but I think he and his family have given America the best example of a good family that I have seen since Jimmy
Carter and in many ways that is one of the vital needs of the day.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
46. I am also a fan for President Carter
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

He's the only President I've ever written a personal letter to...though it was years after he was out of office.
I just believe that the Obama family has been extraordinary in the ugliest political environment possible.
Carter had no picnic politically but he wasn't accused of being a kenyan, muslim, traitor....and I doubt anyone looked at Roselynn's high school and college records for signs of radicalism.

Rhiannon12866

(204,779 posts)
75. I also think the Obamas are a wonderful family, love Michelle and the POTUS is a caring Dad
Sun May 1, 2016, 03:30 AM
May 2016

But I agree with you about the Carters, a very close family, all the boys, plus Rosalynn and Miss Lillian, worked on his campaigns. I'm currently listening to his autobiography ("A Full Life&quot on audio, read by the author himself, and learning so much I never knew about him. It really has been a full life, from his childhood on the farm to his Navy career to his early runs for office. I think I'm on disc #5 and he's just become president! LOL. I recommend it highly.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,312 posts)
50. I liked the Ford family.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

No one was going to tell Betty what she could say. The kids were decent too. They were all likeable people.

For a while, this was the presidential residence:



Gerald R. Ford Jr. House



In a scene reminiscent of a 60's family sitcom, Gerald Ford, now President of the United States. leaves home for work at the White House as wife Betty waves goodbye.



School children walk past the house of President Gerald Ford in Alexandria, Virginia.



"Gerald, that lawn isn't going to mow itself."

Gerald R. Ford in Alexandria — Remembering Our 38th President

After Ford died, his body was brought back to DC for a few days. I went down to watch the motorcade go by. A few days later, about noon on a cold winter day, the plane often used as Air Force 1 flew west, taking him away forever. I saw the plane fly over Alexandria. People on board could look down and see where the family used to live.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,312 posts)
55. It didn't hurt that Steve was an excellent babe.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016

Of course, it's wrong to think that, but you be the judge:





The Fords at home in Alexandria the night he became president. (L-R) First Lady Betty Ford, Steve, Jack, Susan, and President Ford.



Betty Ford had a what-the-hell moment—and an accomplice in photographer David Hume Kennerly.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
54. While I have been disappointed in Obama on several issues,...
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:16 PM
Apr 2016

...I do commend he and his family for their display of dignity and class under difficult circumstances. I do not regret my two votes and support for him.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
59. What you said. Exactly....
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

We don't elect perfect people... hell, there aren't any perfect people.. but Pres Obama has served well under horrible conditions. Michelle and the kids have been real role models.

I believe history will be kind to him.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
60. I agree
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

Given the apparent options for November, I'd really rather find a really fast way to throw out the 22nd amendment.

Pakhet

(520 posts)
64. I've had two. The Carters and the Obamas.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

Jimmy Carter was the first president I campaigned for. I still have a little tiny gold peanut lapel pin

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
81. Not likely
Sun May 1, 2016, 06:15 AM
May 2016

It will only be getting louder as this admin comes to a close. There's a lot of people here that are going to miss this family. Myself included.

Better start the blood pressure medicine now

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
68. A very nice OP ...
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 07:37 PM
Apr 2016

... and yet some still found the need to shit on Obama when responding.

Sad.

But I'm with you ... I have two daughters who are almost exactly the same ages as their girls.

And its been awesome watching his daughters, and my daughters grow up.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
70. Me too.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016


I really REALLY don't want him to go!

"We won't see his like..."
Sigh.... :'(

but, if I were to try and look at it from a higher perspective, I would say the most important thing is to take his example as you would look to anyone you deeply admire, and try to live up to it. Or at least to some of it.

I can imagine President Obama himself giving that advice.

imari362

(311 posts)
72. Very Classy Family
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:40 AM
May 2016


I needed a hankie when he was inaugurated in 2009 and will need one when he leaves in 2017








P.S. Saw a thread in the AA group that mentioned an Obama leaving office support group......think I will need to check it out...

Lunabell

(6,046 posts)
77. Obama is such a nice man with a beautiful family.
Sun May 1, 2016, 03:47 AM
May 2016

He and Jimmie Carter are two of the nicest men to live in the white house.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
79. It all feels kind of unfair, like Obama is really starting to hit his stride.
Sun May 1, 2016, 04:10 AM
May 2016

I would keep him for another 8 years if I could. There probably won't be another Barack Obama for a generation or more.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
80. nice enough people
Sun May 1, 2016, 05:22 AM
May 2016

too bad President Obama made most of the Bush tax cuts permanent.

But I guess crappy policy is okay if one smiles and is polite about it (and nobody in your own party bothers to call out the bullsh*t, like they pretended to care about inequality when Bush was President)

Tax cuts for the rich? IOKIYAD

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