NOBODY TOLD TED!!!!!

[TalkingDog]

BusTED

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/oops-no-one-told-ted-cruz-delegates-pick-vp-contested-convention

Evidently, when it comes to VP picks in a contested Convention (Republican Rules) all delegates are unbound and can vote for whomever they like.

[patricia92243]

1. As long as he was picked for the nominee, he wouldn't care about the VP.

Priorities, you know

[NV Whino]

2. I'm pretty sure Ted knew that.

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1. It got him some headlines.
2. It got him some Carly money… maybe.
3. He knew no one would vote for her for VP so he wouldn't be stuck with her.
3.1 Carly got her ego fed.

[MADem]

4. Ted gave Carly a ton of money--hush money?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-did-ted-cruzs-pac-give-half-a-million-to-carly-fiorinas/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/25/this-remarkable-cnn-exchange-took-the-ted-cruz-affair-rumors-from-the-tabloids-into-the-mainstream/

[NV Whino]

5. Oh, that right. I forgot he gave her money.

This must be payback time.

[TDale313]

3. Or he thought the upside to the amnouncement

Outweighed the fact that it likely wouldn't go down that way? Or that if he won the nomination and made the request for support for her as VP, they'd honor it?

Anyway, doesn't each nominating convention vote on its own rules? Maybe this could be changed. Dunno, don't care all that much honestly. Just playing devil's advocate that it may not be that cut and dry.

It's not like they're actually gonna nominate the Zodiac Killer anyway

[sofa king]

6. Or, it presages a third-party run.

There is some precedent for fake-naming a running mate as a tactical move within the GOP. Ronald Reagan pulled it in 1976 in an effort to cover his own deficiencies and to try to increase support for him over Gerry Ford. It didn't work, and I don't think it's Cruz's plan, now.

Things are different now, and the most important difference is that a sociopath like Ted Cruz has certainly noticed that the longer one stays in the race the more money he makes, and with some tricky bookkeeping he gets to keep the money at the end.

He'll have to walk away from a lot of money and go back to work if he can't find a way to stay in it after July.

The timing is telling, too. An independent candidate doesn't get a convention, and deadlines for filing as an independent in the general are only weeks away from starting to close. Announcing a running mate now, while he still has a detail of journalists following him and GOP backing, makes more sense than breaking off and making such an announcement afterward.

According to one conservative site not worth linking, about one third of the country's electoral votes would be unavailable to Cruz as an independent because of "sore loser" laws.

But winning isn't the point. Making free money is the object, and if Cruz manages to toss the election into Congress by winning a half a dozen states, so much the better for him. It's worth it to try, if all you care about is staying away from your day-job and getting filthy rich.

It fits Paul Ryan's plan, too. Only a three-person race has the chance to land in Congress without a majority of electoral votes for anyone. At that point, all he has to do is stall the vote and he inherits the White House himself.

[lancer78]

7. I doubt it will be thrown to Congress

As the Dem starts at 270 EV's

http://www.270towin.com/maps/aNoAG

[sofa king]

8. The most important number on that page...

... is 190, which is how many days remain before the general election. That's enough time for everything to change, and the Republicans know that something has to change, or they lose. So they'll try like hell to make it change.

[lancer78]

9. They can try

but the Dem states on that map DID NOT lose their Dem Senator during the wave year of 2014. Lawrence O'Donnel called it the "Blue Wall"

Plus, there are now 2.4 million more hispanics who can vote then in 2012

[sofa king]

11. I hope you are right.

Since Hayes-Tilden, the Republican party's electoral history is replete with "miracles" such as these, and one painful loss which, to this day, they openly regret not trying to steal for scumbag Richard Nixon.

So they're gonna try. You can bet everything on that.

[lancer78]

12. Unfortunately

we are running one of the weakest campaigners in the history of the democratic party. And before I get the hide, just think about this. If HRC was such a great campaigner, why has she lost one Presidential primary to a mostly unknown Senator from Illinois, and barely squeaked by when running against a Democratic Socialist?

[Warren DeMontague]

10. I think "Randy Rainbow" said it best.

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. Nah, he knew. This was a "super endorsement"

Got a hella lot more press than some random former-candidate endorsement, and they are both off the hook at the convention.

[glowing]

14. I think it's because she's from CA and he is desperately trying to

get the votes from CA for more delegates. If Trump blows him away, there's not much he can do or say to persuade Republicans to chose him over Trump. I think it's exclusively for the CA primary that he made the pick.

Plus, she's a woman. Look how "progressive" his crazy ass "Christian" Dominionist-self can be. He can look mainstream to the country. Women don't have to fear his kookie ass; he's got a woman joining him on the VP ticket.

So, who do you think Trump would pick as his running mate? I would assume he would want to tip his talking points at the convention to show what the GE run would look like. I think he'd actually love to pick his daughter to run with him, but in not so sure that's allowed? I would think he would go with someone fairly "Christian" conservative and someone from the south or Midwest. I'm thinking, he should pick Rubio, and then have Rubio give him his pledged delegates; which would put him over the top to win the required number in the first round of voting. I believe Marco has quite a few delegates assigned to him.... Not sure Marco would acquese to Trump? Trump isn't very loved by the Republican establishment.

What a nutty election cycle this is turning into from an outside overview of 2016, the anger the American people are feeling, and the general craziness of the parties, establishment, corporate money (bribery), and the populist message catching on like wild fire. Interesting for a historical context I believe. Absolutely ridiculous and emotional from within it.

[HeiressofBickworth]

15. I had two thoughts about Carnival Cruz's choice of Fiorino

1. He's aiming for the women's vote. Hey, Ted, women vote with their brains not their vaginas.

2. He's aiming for the California delegate votes -- Hey, Ted, California doesn't like Fiorino.

So he once again shows his shocking lack of judgment. Kinda like when McCain picked Pailin.