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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:37 PM May 2016

"Boots on the Ground" in Iraq: Here We Go Again

Your Monday morning (PDT, anyway) Pitt-me-up.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35873-boots-on-the-ground-in-iraq-here-we-go-again

In September of 2014, President Obama went all the way around the block and back again trying to explain how the United States and its allies would destroy ISIS (also known as Daesh) without deploying soldiers. Airstrikes would do the trick. "No boots on the ground," he said....

Here we are just about two years later, and US soldiers wearing boots are on the ground in Iraq and Syria. The Green Zone in Baghdad has been stormed. The latest US deployments are small, but floods always start with a drip. About 217 US soldiers have been sent to Iraq to augment the more than 4,000 troops already there, along with an additional 250 sent to the urban death zone that is Syria. They're going to a place where hospitals are deliberately destroyed; a medical facility in Aleppo was recently obliterated in an airstrike, killing 14 people. The US blamed the Syrian government, the Syrians and Russians blamed the US, and the dead lie still.

"We see a continual escalation with the now 250 additional troops," said Rep. Barbara Lee. "Whenever you have troops in harm's way, unintended consequences could occur. I'm very worried that our troops, while advisers, are still in the middle of the war and without authorization from Congress." Sen. John McCain, in a rare moment of sense, said, "We used to call it 'mission creep.' I've seen this movie before. It's called Vietnam."...

If Hillary Clinton wins in November, we're in the same boat without all the shouting. She is not as frightening as her presumed opponent, but her judgment on matters of war and personal freedom have been shown to be sorely lacking. Clinton voted with the Bush administration on the Iraq war (which gave us ISIS) and the Patriot Act. Her recent hawkish speech at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee convention would have made Barry Goldwater hide under the bed with a daisy pressed between his palms. Should she enter that round room after inauguration come January, you can bet your last dime that our 25-year adventure in Iraq will continue, and expand, unabated.
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moonbabygo

(281 posts)
1. I don't believe Obama wants boots on the ground
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

he is not a war president, but sometimes scenarios change and .... well you read the post

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
2. We've heard the cries of "Here we go again" since the day after Obama pulled ...
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:42 PM
May 2016

... the troops out.

We had over 150,000 in Iraq when he took office. We have about 4-5k there now.

We aren't "going" back.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
3. Of course not, it will be Syria or Iran...
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

A new administration will have to do something fresh and bold.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. It was going to be both of those while Obama was President too.
Mon May 2, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

And Eqypt, and Libya ... the same hair on fire nonsense.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
5. Obama voted against the Iraq War...
Mon May 2, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

That's one of the big reasons Hillary lost to him.Thank God he didn't take Hillary's advice in most cases.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
6. Obama was not in the Senate at the time of the Iraq war vote.
Mon May 2, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016

There was no way for him to vote against it formally.

And the other thing I find funny in your post is that you think Obama never took the advice of Hillary while she was his SOS. She was in favor of the successful raid against OBL, Biden was not.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
9. It's not like you read the paper and see "12 pairs of footwear died in the Korengal valley today"
Mon May 2, 2016, 04:56 PM
May 2016

Boots indeed.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
11. While I do understand your point
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:20 AM
May 2016

we also do say boots on the ground on the operational side. You are correct though, it does soften the reality.

actslikeacarrot

(464 posts)
10. Yep. Some from the 26th MEU.
Mon May 2, 2016, 05:26 PM
May 2016

And some have said: well we don't have as many there as we did before, so we aren't going back. I agree, WE aren't going anywhere. But some of our fellow citizens are.

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