Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:46 PM May 2016

Chopper shock: Couple gets $60K bill for 25-minute air evacuation

North Country woman went into labor and needed trip to hospital, but with heavy price to bear
By Rick Karlin


Leigh Campbell got quite a shock in the predawn hours of April 3: Twenty-seven weeks pregnant, his wife, Heather, went into early labor.

The couple, who live in Ray Brook in Essex County, rushed to the hospital in nearby Saranac Lake. But because that facility lacks a neonatal intensive care unit, their midwife called for a helicopter to bring Heather to the nearest open bed across Lake Champlain in Burlington, Vt.

They avoided a premature birth and Heather remained in the hospital waiting to bring her baby to term when her husband was last contacted.

But another shock came two days later with the realization that the helicopter bill was $59,999 and Heather's insurance carrier would only cover about $370 for the 25-minute flight.

The service provided by the helicopter company LifeNet, was "out of network," and therefore not covered in her health insurance policy.

more
http://www.timesunion.com/tuplus-local/article/Chopper-shock-Couple-gets-60K-bill-for-7386613.php

18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Chopper shock: Couple gets $60K bill for 25-minute air evacuation (Original Post) n2doc May 2016 OP
Helicopters are not cheap. Nt Logical May 2016 #1
Obviously someone should have told them to not use one if they couldn't afford it n2doc May 2016 #2
Lacking any additional qualifiers, a one-hour helicopter rides often costs less than $350.00 LanternWaste May 2016 #3
The insurance company needs to duke it out with the helicopter comapny KamaAina May 2016 #6
Medevac helicopter with skilled paramedics available 24/7. Still, I agree too much money. nt Logical May 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #5
It's not like they were buying the damned thing Cirque du So-What May 2016 #10
Wonderful jehop61 May 2016 #4
Those Lifeflifht jobs aren't just regular leftyladyfrommo May 2016 #7
I thought we had the ACA now? GummyBearz May 2016 #9
I don't think Medicare would pay for it. leftyladyfrommo May 2016 #11
What ACA covers is the bare minimum, its not supposed to be adequate, its supposed to be minimal. Baobab May 2016 #14
And we're told to "shop around." Brickbat May 2016 #8
Only partly a helicopter cost problem matt819 May 2016 #12
Literally enough to buy a helicopter 6chars May 2016 #13
So they were billed enough to buy a whole helicopter and fill it with gas and likely, insure it too. Baobab May 2016 #16
The problem appears to be that it falls under FAA regulation, not healthcare regulation. pnwmom May 2016 #15
In a civilized country, not we are not, nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #17

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. Obviously someone should have told them to not use one if they couldn't afford it
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

Right? Greatest health care system in the world!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. Lacking any additional qualifiers, a one-hour helicopter rides often costs less than $350.00
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:52 PM
May 2016

Lacking additional qualifiers, a one-hour helicopter rides often costs $200-$300.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
6. The insurance company needs to duke it out with the helicopter comapny
Mon May 2, 2016, 02:07 PM
May 2016

And, as Kinky Friedman would put it, "christian them down" to a more reasonable rate.

Response to Logical (Reply #1)

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
4. Wonderful
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

Asking a couple to choose life or death of their child in a crisis situation Who, in that situation, can assess the cost?

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
7. Those Lifeflifht jobs aren't just regular
Mon May 2, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

Ole helicopters. They are flying ambulances.

An ambulance ride here in KC is about $1,000 and that is just for a few miles. But what you are paying for are the medics and all the special equipment on board.

Lifeflight has nurses on board plus tons 0f special equipment. But $60,000 seems pretty steep. Ouch!

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
11. I don't think Medicare would pay for it.
Mon May 2, 2016, 02:42 PM
May 2016

I think I remember thinking that I better never to call an ambulance. I will just have to drive myself. I don't think it pays anything for ambulance.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
14. What ACA covers is the bare minimum, its not supposed to be adequate, its supposed to be minimal.
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

its for poor people who have no other resort.

it cannot be too attractive so as to cause "crowd out" of insurers core customers.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
12. Only partly a helicopter cost problem
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:01 PM
May 2016

The bulk of this is an insurance company problem. What would they have had the couple do? Let their baby die? Oh. Silly me. Of course the insurance company would prefer that.

As for the cost. Helicopter hourly costs are probably in the $2,000 range, I think. But this is not a hop in a tourist helicopter; it's a medevac helicopter. Then there's the paramedics. And the 24x7 availability of the paramedics. Still and all, $60,000 seems high.

I agree with another poster - Let the insurance company and LifeNet duke it out.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
13. Literally enough to buy a helicopter
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

I just googled how much does a helicopter cost.

First hit is aerotrader.com and first helicopter with a price is a 2010 Safari for $58,500.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
16. So they were billed enough to buy a whole helicopter and fill it with gas and likely, insure it too.
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

thats outrageous.

But people have to understand it is a very inelastic market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticity_%28economics%29

That means that they didn't have any other choices. So it is deemed to be worth more because they were over a barrel.

Thats how we're pricing cancer drugs now too.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
15. The problem appears to be that it falls under FAA regulation, not healthcare regulation.
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016
Because they describe themselves as air carriers, the companies claim they aren't subject to price restrictions. When it comes to aviation, federal regulation takes precedence over state rules. And the federal government deregulated airline rates in the late 1970s.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Chopper shock: Couple get...