Trump 41, Clinton 39

[busterbrown]

Seeing this all day... Like its gonna influence my opinion..

And I like Bernie, a lot....But it’s over..

So let the haters roll..

[Jackie Wilson Said]

1. Well, given the thousands, millions? of so called liberals who say they just cant

vote for Hillary, anything is possible.

If Trump does win it will be their fault.

[Act_of_Reparation]

3. Or it won't.

Depends on where they live.

[Scuba]

4. If Hillary's policies/character don't motivate people to vote for her, it's her fault, not theirs.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

6. No, it is the fault of anyone claiming to not be a right winger. You simply cant claim

that and then allow Trump to be prez.

Not my rules, these rules were made up long ago.

[Scuba]

9. It's the candidate's job to motivate voters, not the voters job to vote for whoever.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

11. I wish Skinner would openly change the rules so the pro Trump folks can come out and

say they are pro Trump or pro GOP, then we could eliminate all this bullshit of pretending.

[Scuba]

15. I wish Hillary and her supporters would quit pretending to be other than Republicans.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

16. Well, since I am a Bernie voter, and since I was a Bernie supporter and liberal

before many of you were born, or at least before you were in high school, I will not take that as an insult to me.

I am so far left it would make you head spin, as they say.

But I am finding many here are not left at all unless it is about their pocketbooks.

[Scuba]

17. Not directed at you at all.

BTW, I graduated high school in the mid-60's.

It's my impression that many of Hillary's supporters are right of Richard Nixon. As for me, I'm a little left of Abbie Hoffman, circa 1968.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

18. If you are from that time and say that, you either have a bad memory or something is wrong

As much as I dislike much of what HIllary is about, there is nothing remotely similar to her and Nixon.

Listen to the guys tapes sometime, find out who you are comparing her to.

[Scuba]

19. Both have enemies lists, are corrupt, and love secrecy, spying and military interventions.

Nixon started the EPA and did a couple other things that would be considered "left wing hippie unicorns" by Hillary and her supporters. Price controls, for example.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

20. Nope

Nixon created the EPA by executive order in 1970 as a sop to the anti-Vietanm war left — not because he thought an EPA was needed.

Nixon reassigned to the EPA the ongoing environmental protection activities of other federal agencies.

So Nixon’s move was little more than a cynical bureaucratic reshuffling done to facilitate his Vietnam policies — not some proud legacy of the Republican party.

http://junkscience.com/2012/01/myth-nixon-created-the-epa-to-help-the-environment/

[silvershadow]

35. Well honestly I vote for whomever earns it and really lets me know it.

Policies matter. Politics matter.

[hfojvt]

21. is it possibly the voters' job

to get their head out of their a$$?

Why do you want to absolve people who do something really, really stupid?

[Scuba]

23. "Why do you want to absolve people who do something really, really stupid?"

You mean voting for Hillary?

[hfojvt]

24. no, that would, of course be Bernie's fault

apparently he couldn't get them excited about Berning down the Democratic Party.

Right?

[Scuba]

25. He won't win a single state. He'll only win Vermont. He'll only win Vermont and New Hampshire.

Not excited at all.

[silvershadow]

34. Been shouting this for months. They don't wanna hear it. She is owed a vote.

I think that's the message?

[30Draw]

8. Ever heard of a DINO? That's Hill.

Progressives don't want to vote for her because she isn't progressive.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

10. Go Trump, in other words, I hear ya...I dont like it but I hear ya

[cannabis_flower]

27. I will not vote for Hillary

because I am enthusiastic about her, I will vote for her because Trump (and Cruz even more so) scare me. I'm a little scared of Hillary, but not as much as the others. I don't trust her, but she's less scary than the alternative.

[busterbrown]

32. I bet Hillary understands how the party is moving left.

and I think you’ll be surprised by her more progressive policy agendas as we move further into the year...And if elected... will make a fine President,,

[msongs]

2. the republican poll from the republican party spokesgroup shows the republican winning lol

its the equivalent of TYT showing bernie winning

[ChisolmTrailDem]

5. Another underhanded attempt to drag the primary debate into GD under the guise of...

...of being a GE post.

[pampango]

31. I don't think it's the fault of the OP. It's fairly a post about the GE. It's the replies that

belong in GD-P. Too bad we can't alert on replies like we can OP's for the forum they are posted in.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

36. There is no general election yet. nt

[Maeve]

7. It's a Rasmussen poll--and worthless

Try something that analyses statistics better--like this:
http://election.princeton.edu/2016/05/01/what-do-head-to-head-general-election-polls-tell-us-about-november/

[lpbk2713]

13. Rasmussen polls usually go to the highest bidder.

Completely worthless.

[bluegopher]

33. They prove it over and over..

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. Haha.

Here they come out of the pen now..........

[book_worm]

14. At least make the point that it is Rasmussen the same pollster who had Romney

beating Obama for most of the 2012 cycle (along with Gallup).

[ohnoyoudidnt]

22. And the other 20 points?

If we only have a 2 candidate race, they have to go somewhere.

[1939]

37. Third party, stay home, hold their nose? NT

[gratuitous]

26. A Rasmussen poll?

Please do a little research on how reliable Rasmussen has been over the last eight years or so, because the popular media isn't going to do it for you; they're heavily invested in the horse race narrative. If Rasmussen polling was worth the pixels it uses, Mitt Romney would be just finishing up his first term.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. Rasmussen Reports (5/4/12 - 5/6/12): Romney - 47, Obama - 45.

Rasmussen was the only polling firm, in 2012, that consistently showed Romney beating Obama by several points. Nate Silver rates Rasmussen as a (C), with a means reverted bias of +2.3 (Republican).

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

[busterbrown]

29. What about Hillary’s service to our country..

Sec. State... That is a thankless freaking job..and she get absolutely no credit for what I feel was an outstanding job..I’m a little sick and tired of the Hillary haters.. Besides Bernie. Feingold, Warren and a few others how many choices OF dems do we have... The whole system stinks...

[Fla_Democrat]

30. Oh, they're much older than that

[Omaha Steve]

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