Tennesse to allow guns on campus

[Cyrano]

Why don't all right-wing institutions allow people to carry guns. When the smoke clears, the world can only be a better place.

[PatrickforO]

1. You know what? If one of my precious children was going there, I would be urging them

to withdraw and transfer to a sane college.

[braddy]

80. This only applies to faculty and staff, not students.

"A bill allowing staff and faculty at Tennessee's public colleges and universities to be armed on campus became law Monday"

I would feel safer with a student on such a campus.

[stone space]

2. I would never allow guns in my classroom.

If I see one, I'm cancelling class immediately and calling 911.

[linuxman]

5. It's okay. I'll conceal carry it.

[stone space]

7. You'll go to jail.

It's okay. I'll conceal carry it.

[sarisataka]

12. Why are you

Threatening people?

It's not like anyone is saying they would do something illegal like stealing

[linuxman]

14. Why are you

Unable to know what a threat is?

[sarisataka]

74. I am using

That poster's definition. Actually he considers it a "threat" if someone claims he would be arrested for breaking the law. He also believes he can have people arrested even if they have broke no law.

[linuxman]

78. My mistake. I thought your initial reply was to me.

[sarisataka]

85. No worries

I see you have encountered the "professor's" unusual take on how the legal system works.

[linuxman]

91. He's adorable.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

285. pretty girls CAN get people arrested, by male police officers, when they broke no laws

Other people can do the same thing at various levels [of intelligence; but satellite operators break all kinds of laws, especially defaming Xi Jinping, while "taking it to=2 the street..." btw, "gotcha"]

[linuxman]

16. Depends.

Are you teaching in Tennessee? If so, no, I wouldnt.

[Duckhunter935]

8. You would never see

The concealed weapon I would carry in your classroom. If you see one, they are breaking the law.

[stone space]

9. You'd go to jail as well.

You would never see

The concealed weapon I would carry in your classroom.

[Duckhunter935]

10. Why if it was legal?

Or as you say....

Why are you threatening me, waaaaaaaa

[stone space]

13. It's not legal in MY classroom, and you know it!

Why if it was legal?

Or as you say....

Why are you threatening me, waaaaaaaa

You'll go to jail.

It's that simple.

[linuxman]

21. It's either legal in your state, or not.

The COLLEGE'S classroom is subject to those laws, unless the university bans them. You get no say.

If it's legal in your state, I'll carry it to your class as much as I please.

[stone space]

42. It's illegal. Try it and you'll go to jail. It's that simple.

Is that clear enough for you?

[linuxman]

47. You seem quick to anger.

For the record, I think it's a VERY good thing you don't have a gun around students.

[stone space]

49. Sez the ammosexual who threatened to bring a gun into my classroom in post #5.

You seem quick to anger.

For the record, I think it's a VERY good thing you don't have a gun around students.

You think your precious gun is a Trump Card.

Damn right I'm mad!

[Duckhunter935]

58. Oooh, name calling and insults, nice

Is that not how you were on many, many vacations, lol

[linuxman]

69. With that temper, he has to get away from it all, now and then.

I love it. Dick jokes, thinly disguised homophobia wolf whistles, rage smilies, and bluster. It's all they have left.

[stone space]

71. Bullshit!

thinly disguised homophobia wolf whistles

[linuxman]

75. Nah, it's true.

[stone space]

79. Do not compare gays with deadly weapons. That's homophobic in the extreme.

[linuxman]

81. You did that, I called you out on it.

I prefer ALL groups to have the right to effective self defense. Armed gays don't get bashed.

I guess you'd just call them ammosexual and be done with it, though.

[stone space]

88. Bullshit! You brought up gays in the contest of deadly weapons.

Gay folks are human beings, just like you and me.

What you did was disgustingly homophobic.

[linuxman]

90. You brought it up with your wolf whistle homophobia

Ammosexual was coined to denigrate gun owners by conflating their choice to be armed with being a homosexual, as if that were a bad thing. Everyone knows what you mean when you say it. It's not clever. Seems everyone who uses that term is a homophobiahomophobic asshole.

Own it.

I imagine if you called my gay, concealed carrying brother in law an ammosexual to his face...well you wouldnt. You're the keyboard type of activist. It would be funny to watch the aftermath though.

[stone space]

131. What's next? Racist against Black Guns?

[sarisataka]

146. I couldn't agree more

conflating homosexuals and deadly weapons is disgusting and should not be tolerated on this site.

Unfortunately not all of your homophobic posts were hidden:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=185048
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=185037
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172185048#post4
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172185048#post7
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172185048#post25
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172185048#post21

It is a shame that some juries chosen to not hide such disgusting homophobia

[stone space]

162. Why do you insist on comparing gay folks with deadly weapons? (nt)

[sarisataka]

163. You tell me

you are the one who did it.

[stone space]

166. Where?

https://www.facebook.com/events/1686524198249678/

Cocks not glocks: Dildos to replace guns at UT-Austin campus carry protest





By Lauren McGaughy

Updated 1:30 pm, Saturday, October 10, 2015

AUSTIN - Hundreds of students at the University of Texas at Austin will protest a new law will allow more guns on campus not with signs or sit-ins, but by "strapping gigantic swinging dildos to our backpacks."

Their mantra? #CocksNotGlocks

Jessica Jin, who set up the "Campus (DILDO) Carry" event on Facebook, invokes the argument that allowing more guns on campus will make students safe is a fallacy. She's urging students to send campus leaders that message by strapping on the plastic phalluses.

"'You're carrying a gun to class? Yeah well I'm carrying a HUGE DILDO,'" Jin says in the group's description. "Just about as effective at protecting us from sociopathic shooters, but much safer for recreational play."

More than 330 people had signed up to participate by Saturday morning. The "strap in" will occur on Aug. 24, 2016, the first day of next year's fall semester.

The event was created the same day one student was killed and another wounded in a shooting at Texas Southern University, and just days after other deadly shootings on campuses in Oregon and Arizona.

snip-----------------------

http://www.chron.com/local/education/campus-chronicles/article/campus-carry-ut-austin-dildo-dildos-texas-6563276.php#photo-8769405

[sarisataka]

171. One of many:

Star Member stone space (4,949 posts)
7. OMG! OH NOZ! Pictures of gunsucking ammosexuals are all over the intertubz!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172185048#post7

[stone space]

172. Gunlicking ammosexuals suck.

So?

[sarisataka]

177. Bigots using homophobic images...

I'll let you complete the sentence.

[stone space]

185. OK, I'll give it a try.

Bigots using homophobic images...

I'll let you complete the sentence.

I'm no writer, but here goes:

"When bigots using homophobic images on their facebook pages inflict their ammosexality on innocent children, the children can be scarred for life."

https://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/08/26/bitter-irony/

[sarisataka]

187. Your right, you are no writer nt

[stone space]

189. I tried.

It may not be poetry, but it is true.

[Duckhunter935]

179. You have done better with the insults

Come on, at least try

[TipTok]

135. I would say thin is generous....

It's a bit weird how much time the controller crowd spends thinking, talking and writing about our collective genitals.

Get a better hobby or at least write better fan fiction...

[linuxman]

64. Oooh, ammosexual!!!

Nice dog whistle. Everyone knows what you really want to say.

Man, I'm beginning to think that with your volatile temper, your gun would be the least of the danger to your students.

[stone space]

70. Do you commonly get a friendly response when you make such threats?

Man, I'm beginning to think that with your volatile temper, your gun would be the least of the danger to your students.

[linuxman]

73. Not a threat.

I guess thats why you're not a law, english, or philosophy prof.

[Duckhunter935]

169. How is the truth a threat?

[Duckhunter935]

168. lol

[Duckhunter935]

22. If it is not legal in your state, I would not carry

But since this OP is about legal carry, I would in that state. I hope you do not move or your laws change.

Of course after about a dozen threads on this, you still fail to answer a simple and basic question.

How would you know I have a weapon if I am properly concealed carrying?

[stone space]

35. I've told you a million times that it is not legal in my state.

Yet you persist with your same old threats over and over again, stalking me from thread to thread.

This is GD, not the Gudgeon.

[Duckhunter935]

39. Show me the threat, lol

A weapon I may or may not have?

[linuxman]

44. Well when it is legal, be sure to let me know.

I want to see what you do when your x-ray vision let's yu know one of your students is carrying.

[Lurks Often]

29. Just a matter of time until campus carry comes to Iowa

[stone space]

66. Why should Iowans take advice from an open Zimmerman supporter like you?

Just a matter of time until campus carry comes to Iowa

We don't believe in cold blooded murder.


Note to jurors: Common knowledge in the gudgeon. Poster makes no secret about his support of Zimmerman.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172166391

Zimmermann broke no current laws, acted reasonably and Florida laws relating to any of his actions need no changes

15 (48%)

Abnredleg, shedevil69taz, 840high, Lurks Often, mackdaddy, Surf Fishing Guru, blueridge3210, Big_Mike, Calista241, COLGATE4, Straw Man, mr_liberal, virginia mountainman, gejohnston, mog75

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172164331

[TeddyR]

94. Was Zimmerman

Convicted of cold-blooded murder? I missed that story.

[stone space]

96. Feel free to alert if you feel that Zimmerman has been slandered.

Was Zimmerman

Convicted of cold-blooded murder? I missed that story.

Zimmerman is a cold-blooded murderer who should be in prison.

[TeddyR]

99. Nah

I don't alert because I disagree with someone who is wrong. Please point me to the story where Zimmerman was convicted of murder though. I missed that one.

[rockfordfile]

100. Oh hell it was Sanford,FL he was going to walk

Yes Zimmerman is a murdering racist coward.

[TeddyR]

102. Convicted

Murdering racist coward? Who else that was found innocent by a jury of their peers would you like to see in prison?

[stone space]

108. Zimmerman IS a murdering racist coward. (nt)

[rockfordfile]

127. A murdering racist coward

Zimmerman is a racist coward. Not mention a nra supporter and just a pos.

Yes Sanford, FL not surprised by what happen in that area. A lot of gun nut cowards in that area.

[TeddyR]

107. What does Zimmerman

Even have to do with campus carry in TN? He was absolved based on FL stand your ground laws, which have nothing to do with campus carry in any state.

[rockfordfile]

143. I think the previous poster brought Zimmerman into it because he was a gun nut coward.

I could see the same coward paranoid loser type being supportive for a reason to carry a gun to school.

[TeddyR]

268. Yeah

You've made the point about "paranoid lose types" already. Not sure why you keep repeating that insult. Does it make you feel better?

[NobodyHere]

197. Zimmerman didn't use SYG

[TeddyR]

267. Really?

Apologies then, thought he did for some reason.

[TeddyR]

95. And what does campus carry

Have to do with cold blooded murder?

[stone space]

202. I was talking to a self-avowed Zimmerman supporter.

He thought that he had some wisdom to offer Iowans.

He doesn't.

We don't like cold blooded murder.

And we have no reason to take advice from folks who do support cold-blooded murder.

[TeddyR]

269. What "cold blooded murder" are you referencing?

Certainly not Zimmerman since he was absolved, so you've lost me.

[stone space]

271. OK, I think that we can all see exactly where you are coming from here.

What "cold blooded murder" are you referencing?

Certainly not Zimmerman since he was absolved, so you've lost me.

[TeddyR]

273. Honest question

You reference Zimmerman and murder but he wasn't convicted of murder. Did you mean someone else, or did you mean the guy who was found innocent of murder is a murderer?

And on edit, where am I coming from?

[rockfordfile]

275. Why are you supporting a racist?

[rockfordfile]

274. Zimmerman a racist gun nut coward.

Well Zimmerman got off because of the area. Been through Sanford, FL many times.

[rockfordfile]

15. I'm calling the Police on you.

There's zero reason to bring a gun to school. You have to be a idiot to want to bring a gun to a school.

[Nevernose]

18. An idiot or a coward

What must it be like to be that afraid all the time?

[linuxman]

41. Couldn't say.

I don't shake and shiver at the thought of someone lawfully carrying a pistol, unlike some.

[rockfordfile]

68. No it's about a loser wanting to carry a gun at a school. No reason

Commonsense.

[linuxman]

83. Oh, well since you made such a compelling argument,

I'll give it all the attention and consideration it deserves. I'll let you guess how much that is.

Ad hominids get you nowhere.

[rockfordfile]

159. Commonsense. Gun nuts loser republicans seem to have a problem with

There's no reason to carry a gun to school. That's not hard to understand unless something is wrong with the person.

[rockfordfile]

77. No reason to carry a gun in school

Well the person is a nutcase.

[Duckhunter935]

24. And if it is legal in that state?

I hope you go to jail for that.

[rockfordfile]

30. Nope if you carry a gun to school you're a danger to others.

A paranoid loser.

[TeddyR]

38. Nice insults

Good thing your opinion doesn't impact the legality of concealed carry.

[Duckhunter935]

43. Thats all they have

Insults and penis jokes

[rockfordfile]

51. There's something wrong if think you think that's a insult

The insult is the gun carrying paranoid losers that want carry a gun everywhere.

Just the republicansNRA losers.

As a matter of fact, I just received a call from the nra asking for money. Boy did they screw up calling the wrong place.

[TeddyR]

56. More nice insults

Good job

[Duckhunter935]

61. They are proud of it

[rockfordfile]

72. Oh you're a republican?

There were no insults. Usually republicans think that when said.

[TeddyR]

82. "Gun carrying paranoid losers"

Is a compliment? You have an odd sense of how to compliment someone.

[rockfordfile]

101. So you're a republican?

[TeddyR]

272. So all Republicans

Are gun nut losers? Huh, didn't know that. I'm actually a Dem (which is why I'm on DU and not a Republican website) and have been since I first voted. Question - Gabby Giffords supports the individual right to keep and bear arms, as does President Obama. Do you think they are gun nut losers? And instead of more personal insults, it would be nice if you answer the question - are Giffords and President Obama gun nut losers because they support the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms?

[TipTok]

276. +1

[rockfordfile]

278. You know how stupid you come off when post President Obama outside firing gun?

[TipTok]

279. Which part do you think is factually untrue?

That it actually happened or just his declared support for the individual right to own firearms?

[rockfordfile]

277. No you sound like a republican

If you support taking a gun to school or into a department store etc.. then yes you're a gun nut paranoid loser.

No President Obama doesn't support taking your gun into those places. That's all republican.

Stop making excuses for the republican party and nra.

[linuxman]

31. Which is why you'd call someone with a gun?

Interesting thought process.

For the record, I'd never break the law. I'm simply assuming that the venerable teacher works in tennesee, as that's the state mentioned in the story, and he won't tell me what state he works in.

If you were to call the cops in Tennessee (which is where I assume this hypothetical scenario is taking pkace) YOU would be the one going to jail.

[rockfordfile]

76. If I saw some random person carrying a gun in school calling Police

There's no reason to carry a gun to a school. Commonsense unless you're a paranoid loser/gun nut.

[TipTok]

140. If carrying is legal, you should be charged for filing a false report...

... And wasting police resources.

The police aren't there to protect your feelings.

[rockfordfile]

145. No they will come and check you out.

No reason to carry a gun to school. Just a ounce of commonsense.

[TipTok]

156. It's really none of your business if I am conducting a legal activity...

Using that same logic you'll be calling the police on black people just to be safe and to have the police come 'check them out'.

They haven't done anything illegal or wrong but you want to use the power of the law to inconvenience then and maybe get them hurt or arrested.

So delicate...

[rockfordfile]

181. You come to a school carrying gun, and I'm calling the cops to check you out

It seems that paranoid gun nut losers fit in with Trump supporters.

[TipTok]

190. Anything new to contribute to the conversation?

Or just a doubling down on your willingness to commit a crime and potentially cost someone else their health or safety because you want to harass someone who is obeying the law but has offended you personally?

Two options...

You tell the truth that you saw a man with a gun carrying it in a holster in a non threatening manner but it bothers you and you'd like them to come 'check him out'. At that point the police will tell you that he's doing nothing illegal and they have no reason to come.

or...

You lie and say that he is behaving in a threatening manner and they need to get there right fuck NOW. Now you're the actual criminal and you've placed the lives of others in jeapordy by creating an unsafe and stressful situation and you've drawn actual resources from someone who needed them.

Either way.... Doesn't look good for you... Unless you don't care about ethics or morals or the law... Then you are good to go I guess..

[rockfordfile]

198. Put this way I see a person in a school carrying a gun, guess what?

They will come and check that person out.

You have to be way out there in nra republican territory to think that the Police will not come.

No "Unless you don't care about ethics or morals or the law" that would really be the nra supporting gun nuts that think they to carry a gun everywhere.

[TipTok]

200. Now we've gone down to the equivalent of...

Are you suggesting that one has to go to 'nra territory' to find police that enforce the law as it's written?

If it's legal and you are honest the police should leave that person alone and tell you to quit wasting police time.

If you lie to get a rise out of them, that's on you.

Maybe you are just so comfortably insulated in your safe space that you can't conceive that someone would make a choice you don't like and thus your first response is to reach out to an authority figure to have them deal with it for you instead of either a) ignoring it or b) talking to them like an adult.

Maybe it's time to get out more...

[rockfordfile]

204. No, again if I see a random person carrying a gun in school, then the Police will be notify.

This is like dealing with a Trump or Bushco. The Police will send out a person to check out the gun carrying idiot at a school or department store.

I own one gun and it's in a safe. I never have been so scared to have it with me everywhere. I'm not brained washed like that.

I think it's the same kind of person that's so scared that when a person knocks on the door at night they would shoot that person.

I remember seeing lights from flash lights around my front glass door, and I didn't think the first thing to do was get a gun and shoot them. It was the Police telling me that my garage door was still open.

[TipTok]

207. Mediocre attempt at deflection but the point stands...

If it's legal then you are either going to lie to get the result you want or tell the truth and be told that no laws are being broken.

Maybe you live in Mayberry where the police don't have any actual crime to deal with.

You really are that insulated aren't you?

Must be nice while it lasts...

[rockfordfile]

280. You seem to have a reading problem.

Again if I see a random person carrying a gun around in school, Police are going to be called.

Unless the person is a loser/ paranoid/ gun nut take you're pick, maybe all of the above. No reason to bring a gun to school.

[rockfordfile]

282. Oh you're a republican to?

[TipTok]

283. Now I get it...

You don't teach at a university... It's a kindergarten...

That explains the name calling...

[rockfordfile]

290. Who are you talking to?

No but I can see someone like you would support a person bringing a gun to a school.

"It's a kindergarten... "?

[TipTok]

292. Got my angry controllers from this thread mixed up...

Deepest apologies...

I'll still stand by the kindergarten level insults though.

[braddy]

11. Calling in fake 911 calls can get people killed, many Americans are learning to NOT call in the

police even when they could use them to handle a drunk family member, or one with mental issues, for you to call in telling them that someone has a gun, could definitely get a student killed.

[stone space]

17. If you don't want the cops called on you, then don't step foot in my classroom with a gun.

I'm not playing games here.

There's nothing fake about it.

[braddy]

19. Actually it seems the bill allows you and staff and faculty to carry guns, are you going to call

SWAT on your fellow professors and bosses?

[rockfordfile]

23. Simple don't bring a gun to school. A gun has no place at a school unless it's security

you are either a paranoid nutcase or loser to bring a gun to school.

[braddy]

28. That what this is, staff and faculty can carry for security.

[rockfordfile]

32. Security guards may carry. Only ones no bs.

[braddy]

40. You seem to have lost track of the topic, if you are in Tennessee, then your fellow

teachers and staff, and your bosses, would be the ones carrying.

What state are you in?

[rockfordfile]

55. The topic relates to guns in school in the state of Tennessee

Stop making excuses for the nra to sale more guns.

[braddy]

59. That didn't make any sense, you must have replied to the wrong person. My post pointed out

that if you are in Tennessee, then your fellow teachers and staff, and your bosses, would be the ones carrying.

What state are you in?

[rockfordfile]

105. This will lead to the nutcases wanting to do more

It always does.

I live in a number- Florida/ North Carolina etc..

[braddy]

118. You do realize that this only applies to faculty and staff don't you? Would you call SWAT on them?

"A bill allowing staff and faculty at Tennessee's public colleges and universities to be armed on campus became law Monday"

[rockfordfile]

144. What did I say above? do you have a reading problem?

[braddy]

161. I would worry about a school that doesn't trust their licensed faculty and makes them leave their

guns in the car, out in the parking lot.

[linuxman]

33. That's why I carry a gun. Security. Glad you approve.

[TeddyR]

46. Your opinion of whether a gun

Has a place at a school is irrelevant to whether campus carry is legal. If you don't want to live in a state where legal then move. If you live in a state where legal then work to change the laws you don't like. Many states allow campus carry (including such "red" states as Oregon) and I'm not aware of any campus shootings anywhere that resulted from legal carry.

[rockfordfile]

93. If I see a random person carrying a gun in school calling Police

The Police will check you out. There's no reason to carry a gun to school.

Stop making excuses for gun nut losers.

[TeddyR]

97. Yes!

More insults - "gun nut losers." You are on a roll. The ammosexual name-calling can't be far off. Good to know that you are going to call 911 on law-abiding citizens. Not like the police have anything better to do.

[rockfordfile]

110. Just the truth

Republicans usually have problem with.

Republicans will respond to a truth with, "well that's insult" or "whatever".

[TeddyR]

121. Glad we agree

That Dems shouldn't insult other Dems.

[rockfordfile]

147. Only republicans would think that was a insult

[Duckhunter935]

125. Oooh, That is a good insult

Keep going, I think you could do better

[rockfordfile]

148. You sound to much like Faux News

[Duckhunter935]

165. That one kind of sucked

I guess I gave you too much credit, sorry

[rockfordfile]

183. What No Faux News tonight?

[Duckhunter935]

184. That one is a little stale now

Just finished watching Lawrence O

[braddy]

34. I guess you know about the black guy at the Walmart?

[rockfordfile]

20. No, if you see somebody with a gun at a school call the Police

Call the Police if you see anybody with a gun to have them checked out.

[braddy]

25. Do you really think that is responsible and safe, to call SWAT on your professors?

[Duckhunter935]

27. Worked well for the poor black guy

At Walmart.

[rockfordfile]

37. Again if I see a person walking around carrying a gun at school calling the Police

Stop the gun culture.

[Duckhunter935]

45. You mean the ones with the guns

[linuxman]

52. THAT'S DIFFERENT!

[Duckhunter935]

62. Lol

[rockfordfile]

114. If I see a random person carrying a gun in school, I'm calling the police

[Duckhunter935]

119. Yes, so we have been told many times

Those would be the police with guns, right?

[rockfordfile]

153. Are you sure?

Maybe you should take a break from the meds.

[Duckhunter935]

167. No meds for me

[linuxman]

36. Ah, a stop and frisk, if you will...

[sarisataka]

84. Tamir Rice

John Crawford lll

They paid with their lives the price of this advice.

[rockfordfile]

98. No that had more to do with terrible Police training

[sarisataka]

106. People called 911 and asked for cops

You get the cops they send you not the ones you want. It was especially true in the case of John Crawford when the person calling 911 outright lied about his actions.

In both cases a person saw someone with what appeared to be a gun. They called 911 and two innocents died because of it.

[rockfordfile]

154. Again read

They should stop hiring idiots and train the people better.

[sarisataka]

158. Until that happens

innocent, law abiding folks are at risk, minorities disproportionately so.

[Press Virginia]

57. 911? What are they going to do?

[stone space]

113. Arrest the ammosexual and throw him in jail.

911? What are they going to do?

[Press Virginia]

116. For what? Legally carrying a concealed firearm?

surely you're not a state employee who is seeking to deny the lawful exercise of a civil right based on your personal beliefs?

[stone space]

122. It is most certainly NOT legal in MY classroom.

For what? Legally carrying a concealed firearm?

surely you're not a state employee who is seeking to deny the lawful exercise of a civil right based on your personal beliefs?

I am a state employee.

Do you have a problem with state employees?

[TeddyR]

129. I have a problem with any individual

Who thinks they get to decide what is or is not legal. If your state doesn't permit campus carry for now then good for you. When your state does permit campus carry in a year or two then I hope you'll follow the law as enacted by the people who represent the citizens of your state.

[Press Virginia]

206. If you're a state employee denying the lawful exercise

of someone's civil right then yeah, I would have a problem.
Just like I had a problem with Kim Davis

[stone space]

209. Are you comparing me with Kim Davis?

WTF???

[Press Virginia]

210. Depends

are you a state employee ignoring the law to deny the exercise of a civil right because the law or the right violates your personal beliefs?

[stone space]

211. Haven't I already told you? Can you read? (nt)

[Press Virginia]

212. Told me what? Your reason as to why you would

deny the lawful practice of someone's civil right? No.

[stone space]

213. Why are you making these accusations against me?

Told me what? Your reason as to why you would

deny the lawful practice of someone's civil right? No.

[Press Virginia]

214. What accusations?

[stone space]

216. Never mind. You're trolling. (nt)

[Press Virginia]

219. Nope. Just curious as to why you'd call the cops

on someone complying with the law while exercising a civil right.

[stone space]

221. Bringing a gun into MY classtoom is not a civil right.

Nope. Just curious as to why you'd call the cops

Von someone complying with the law while exercising a civil right.

It is an uncivil wrong.

[Press Virginia]

222. Because you say so?

Kim Davis said the same thing.

[stone space]

223. You are trolling. (nt)

[Press Virginia]

225. No. I'm wondering why a law that would allow

conceal carry on campus would be ignored in an area of your designation.

[stone space]

226. You don't get to make up your own special "laws" for my classroom.

What makes you think that you have that right in the first place?

[Press Virginia]

227. no one talked about making their own special laws

You, however, decided YOUR classroom was a place where the state law would be invalid.

[stone space]

229. Why are you lying?

no one talked about making their own special laws

You, however, decided YOUR classroom was a place where the state law would be invalid.

[Press Virginia]

243. Read the OP

[stone space]

244. Reread post #122.

Read the OP

[Press Virginia]

245. If it had anything to do with what I asked you or the OP

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I would

[TipTok]

215. Maybe the law doesn't apply to you because you know just how right you are...

Yes?

[stone space]

217. What is your problem?

Maybe the law doesn't apply to you because you know just how right you are...

Yes?

You aren't even making sense here.

[TipTok]

220. You just seem bound and determined to push...

... Your morals on the rest of us. Law, ethics and decent adult behavior be damned.

It does remind me of old Kim Davis.

On a completely unrelated note, how much of your daily wardrobe would fall in the category of denim?

[stone space]

224. You are trying to tell me what I can and can't do in my own classroom.

Why should I obey you?

Just because you have a gun?

[TipTok]

246. I'm telling you to obey the law...

Wild and wacky idea that it is...

[stone space]

247. You don't get to make up your own personal laws for my classroom.

Your guns aren't that powerful.

[TipTok]

249. I don't but your legislature does...

Not a civics professor then either?

[stone space]

253. I will not allow guns in my classroom. Period.

If I spot a gun, I will cancel class immediately, and I will call 911, and have the perpetrator arrested.

Your guns don't make you omnipotent.

That's an illusion on your part.

You can't just make up laws with your guns.

[TipTok]

255. If your legislature makes carrying legal at your school...

... You don't have a choice.

Short of choosing to resign and find a school / state that doesn't allow it.

Of course those seem to be fewer and fewer as time goes on.

[stone space]

257. I've already told you the law. There are no "if"s about it.

You don't get to make the rules in my classroom, and I will not be taking legal advice from some internet lawyer who has already lied about the law in my classroom.

You must think that we are really stupid.

[TipTok]

258. Not an English teacher then either I guess...

Notice the 'if' that preceded all the other posts.

If such a law were to be enacted, you would be obligated to follow it or leave.

Professor of gender studies maybe?

Definitely not law. The list keeps getting shorter and shorter.

Maybe you are having trouble conceptualizing the idea that such a law could exist in your personal academic utopia.

[stone space]

260. What is the connection between guns with gender studies?

Professor of gender studies maybe?

[TipTok]

261. Shot in the dark...

As the conversation progresses I am eliminating other possibilities.

Right now I believe law, English, and criminal justice are off the table.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

126. Why ammosexual?

I take it as a slur on homosexual. Sounds too similar.

Lighten up.

Don't be afraid.

It's just a legal firearm.

You're always telling people not to be afraid.

You go first.

[stone space]

136. Gays are NOT deadly weapons. They are human beings. (nt)

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

142. No, the use of the fake term 'ammosexual'

Sounds too much like homosexual.

Many people, including myself, do not consider homosexual to be a slur.

It's just a lifestyle.

Ammosexual is a slur. They sound too much alike.

People should find another ignorant term to use to insult gun owners.

[sarisataka]

151. The similarity of ammosexual to homosexual

is no accident. It is completely a homophobic slur. A homophobic slur which the above poster is more than willing to use despite his feigned outrage.

Check out some examples and note who posted the pictures http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027798051#post146

[TipTok]

109. I've often wondered at the pettiness of people who would...

... Waste police resources to push their own agenda.

Hopefully no one else actually needs the police when you are placing your false call.

[stone space]

111. Why are you accusing me of making false 911 calls?

Hopefully no one else actually needs the police when you are placing your false call.

WTF???

[TipTok]

128. The context of the conversation was a campus where weapons...

... Were allowed and you stated your intent to call 911 anyways.

[stone space]

149. No, the context to the conversation was my classroom.

Did you reply to my post my mistake?

You might want to go back and reread the post of mine that you initially responded to.

I think I was pretty clear that I was talking about MY classroom.

[rockfordfile]

117. Don't carry a gun to school and maybe you wont get the Police called on you

Simple don't be a paranoid loser.

[TipTok]

124. If the law allows, I'll do as I please...

[Skittles]

233. don't be surprised when people cannot mind-read the intentions of gun-toters

[TipTok]

250. No one expects you to be a mind reader...

... but I refer you to post 218

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7798973

The default assumption that someone is a criminal and using police authority to harass them says more about you.

[Skittles]

265. LOL

people who need guns to go to a freaking classroom or a fast food restaurant - that says EVERYTHING about them

done here because I DETEST wasting my time with gun lovers

[TipTok]

266. It says they have access to tools they could potentially need... That's it...

Do you mock folks with fire extinguishers and multitools as well?

[rockfordfile]

291. Keep towing that nra line

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

130. If it's a legal firearm.....

....calling the police is an illegal act in itself.

It's called (in NY) filing a false report.

[stone space]

155. Do you have a link to a professor being arrested for...

...calling 911 after spotting a gun in his or her class?

If it's a legal firearm.....

....calling the police is an illegal act in itself.

It's called (in NY) filing a false report.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

157. Why?

Why do I need a link?

I did not say I knew of an instance, I just said that you can't knowingly call the cops on a legal activity.

In New York, calling the cops falsely is called filing a false report.

[stone space]

160. You made the claim.

In New York, calling the cops falsely is called filing a false report.

An instance in New York would be fine.

But internet lawyers can't always back up their claims.

That's why I asked for an example.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

238. I do not have an incident. but I have the law...

A person is guilty of falsely reporting an incident in the third degree when, knowing the information reported, conveyed or circulated to be false or baseless, he or she:

1.?Initiates or circulates a false report or warning of an alleged occurrence or impending occurrence of a crime, catastrophe or emergency under circumstances in which it is not unlikely that public alarm or inconvenience will result; ?or

BTW carrying on campus is illegal in NY so it would be appropriate to call the police.

Calling the police if you see a licensed hunter on state land - just to cause trouble, would be the above described offense.

[stone space]

241. That seems to require a false report.

We're talking about true reports here.

I'm being told by multiple people here that calling the police with a true report of a gun in my own classroom will land me in jail.

I'm being given just the opposite advice from what the campus cops here tell me.

We get alerts whenever a gun is spotted, both by telephone in my office, and thru email.

Folks here in this thread are attempting to convince me to risk my own life and the lives of my students simply to avoid inconveniencing a gunman, insisting that they know the law better than I do, and also insisting that they have more authority over my classroom than I do.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

242. Well that depends on where 'here' is.

I don't think calling for a real sighting of a real firearm (or very realistic fake) would be a crime, honestly.

If you knew it to be fake (such as a drill team) and just wanted to piss people off, or told 911 that he was waving it around when he was not, there would be a problem.

Simply calling 911 should not be a problem. The first time you see the person with the gun.

However, if you know the person was carrying legally, had carried before peacefully, and you were just trying to 'push back' on a law you don't like, you do deserve a sit-down with a very grumpy Chief of Police.

[rockfordfile]

186. No it's not. Stop watching Faux News

You see a person carrying a gun in school or maybe a department store , call the Police to check him or her out.

I have done that with regards to a department store. There's really no reason unless you're a paranoid republican that thinks everybody is out to get you or a crook.

[TipTok]

218. Don't be black in a rich white neighborhood...

... And you won't get the cops called to 'check you out'.

Same bullshit logic that comes at the expense of someone else's civil liberties.

All because you are uncomfortable...

[stone space]

228. How exactly is being Black like carrying a gun?

Are you claiming that Black folks are deadly weapons?

If not, why are you comparing Black folks with deadly weapons?

[TipTok]

248. Ahhh irony...

That's where your mind went when I mention black people? Wow...

I feel like the hand model from Zoolander. I literally just explained it. In the post you replied to...

A professor you say?

In any case, a black person and a legal gun owner getting the cops called on them is utilization of the police to protect the delicate feelings of the person who called.

They haven't done anything that would actually deserve it but the caller feels the need to assert themselves and get something they are uncomfortable with out of their presence without actually having to interact with the person.

[stone space]

251. You are confusing human beings with deadly weapons.

Black folks are human beings.

Guns are not human beings. Guns are dangerous weapons.

Expecting people to treat Black folks the same way that we treat deadly weapons is offensive and racist beyond belief.

[TipTok]

252. You know they are inanimate objects right?

We are actually talking about people in both cases.

That's the same logic as someone who crosses the street to get away from a black person or call the cops on them because some tiny minority of black people have committed a crime and thus these folks must be a threat to.

Your irrational fear doesn't morally or legally justify harassment or your own crime in wasting police resources.

[stone space]

254. I do. And apparently, you don't.

You know they are inanimate objects right?

Black folks, however, are human beings, and as such, possess human rights and civil rights that guns don't have.

They are most certainly NOT deadly weapons, and should not be treated as deadly weapons.

There is no comparison.

[TipTok]

256. You seem to be suggesting that people who carry weapons...

... Are in fact not people.

Early morning?

[stone space]

259. Carrying a deadly weapon is behavour, not identity.

Bringing a deadly weapon into my classroom will get my class canceled, result in a 911 call, and the arrest of the perpetrator.

Black students and Gay students are welcome in my classroom, but deadly weapons are not.

Treating Black folks and Gay folks like deadly weapons is bigotry, plain and simple.

Learn the difference between human beings and deadly weapons.

[TipTok]

263. Are you stuck in a loop?

How completely typical to just ignore the parts of the conversation you find uncomfortable and just put yourself on repeat.

Go look up 'if' and get back to me. I'll be by to check your work later.

[rockfordfile]

284. What's with the right wing crap?

[TipTok]

287. Calling out irrational fears and abuse of police knows no political boundaries...

[rockfordfile]

293. No but you should stop sounding like a nra/republican troll.

[TipTok]

294. I always encourage healthy debate...

... And look forward to being provided with new information.

If you can point out anywhere I've been factually and objectively incorrect, I encourage you to do so.

[braddy]

120. What states are you a college professor in?

[stone space]

123. Iowa. (nt)

[braddy]

141. They don't allow faculty and staff to carry, like this Tennessee bill does? What if that changes?

[Press Virginia]

3. I'm sure the blood of the innocent will flow as freely

as it has on other campuses that allow this

[KamaAina]

4. Complete down at the Tennessee 7-yard line! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!

We have an injury timeout on the field.

[linuxman]

6. Just like all the others that allow it, their schools will now be drenched in blood.

[rockfordfile]

26. A paranoid gun culture

A paranoid gun culture brought to you by far right republicans and nra scumbags.

[TeddyR]

48. Oregon allows campus carry

Which far right scumbags are to blame there? The official Dem party platform supports an individual right to keep and bear arms. Does that make President Obama (or candidates Clinton/Sanders) far right scumbags?

[Duckhunter935]

50. I think even Hillary does

So is she a far right scumbag? I think not

[TeddyR]

65. By the way

I was wrong about Oregon. Concealed carry is permitted in some schools but not uniform.

[rockfordfile]

115. Any school. There's no reason to carry a gun to school. Unless you're a gun nut

Like I said before, if I see a random person carrying a gun in school, the Police will be called.

[sarisataka]

137. I do security consulting

My job requires me to be armed in case if I have to to a courier job that comes up.

I also do consulting for several schools including evaluating their Security Programs. In each of the schools I have written permission from the administration to carry a sidearm concealed. I typically wear a suit and tie not a regular uniform.

So are you saying I do not have reason to carry in a school? I'm just a gun nut?

[rockfordfile]

170. If you are a random person at school carrying a gun, I'm calling the Police to check you out

"In each of the schools I have written permission from the administration to carry a sidearm concealed."

Then you can show it to the Police. Do you have a problem with that?


If you support that anybody should carry a gun to school, then yes you're a gun nut loser.

[sarisataka]

175. I am required by law

to show my carry permit to a LEO on demand. If I am on school property then I must also have the written permission on my person as well.


Please show me where I ever indicated I support allowing anyone/everyone to carry on school property. While you are looking for that I will obtain photographic and DNA proof of the existence of bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster- maybe the Easter Bunny as well.

[Duckhunter935]

180. LOL

[rockfordfile]

199. Of course you would be.

"If I am on school property then I must also have the written permission on my person as well. " Really? Of course you would.

I have always consider the gun nut types and religious fanatics the same to a degree.

"I will obtain photographic and DNA proof of the existence of bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster- maybe the Easter Bunny as well"

Do you really? maybe you have a Jesus image in some burnt toast?

[sarisataka]

203. re:"I will obtain photographic and DNA proof of the existence of bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster-

[rockfordfile]

205. From some of your words you never know

you never really know. gun nuts and religious nuts go hand in hand.

[sarisataka]

208. Which words would those be?

I am quite curious.

gun nuts and religious nuts go hand in hand

I agree- though I bet we aren't talking about the same gun nuts

[sarisataka]

289. I am rubber, you are glue

Everything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you



If all you got is name calling I'm just going to phone it in from the playground. Say hi to the billy goats for me

[TeddyR]

138. "Gun nut"

I like that one. And "Police" with a capital P. You seem to be a big fan of authority and making sure everyone else toes the state-approved line.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

139. Who is paranoid....

Gun culture!!!

Nut Job!!!

BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!!

I live in a community and region awash in firearms.

I have not locked my door in the 10 years I have lived here.

On warm Saturdays this place sounds like a war zone.

No one ever gets hurt.

[rockfordfile]

176. I own one gun and I have never been inclined to take it out of the safe with me to a store or school

A person that thinks they have to carry a gun to school is a paranoid loser.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

239. I own two guns....

...One I never carry (K98 Mauser)

The other one I carry a heck of a lot less than people on this website think I do.

What fun would it be to admit I really only carry my handgun deep in the woods?

[Lee-Lee]

235. I find it interesting in light of the epedeimic of sexual assaults on campus

That you cannot see any legitimate reason for a woman to have the ability to defend herself from a possibly much larger or stronger attacker.

In many states that have passed campus carry there were campus sexual assault survivors lobbying for it. Are you saying they are just paranoid nut jobs? Or that we should deny the most effective means of self defense to people while on campus who may be targets of sexual violence?

That if a faculty member is dealing with an abusive spuse or ex spouse who is making threats they shouldn't be allowed the most effective means of self defense all the hours of the day they are at work?

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

240. Enforced victimhood...

...it's a really sick concept, but some would lobby for it.

[rockfordfile]

164. They don't support the gun nut paranoid losers that want to carry a gun to a school

What's wrong Faux News's website down?

[Duckhunter935]

173. That is a decent insult

You are learning, ensure you get the sexual references in there next if you want my advice.

[rockfordfile]

191. If Clinton is the Democratic nominee, I will support her

[Duckhunter935]

194. Good for you

My vote or non-vote is secret.

I can tell you it will not be for her or Trump

I am always sure to vote and will of course vote down ballot

[Kang Colby]

53. It's not an issue.

Colorado, Idaho, Wisconsin, Kansas, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah, Texas, and now Tennessee have some form of campus carry. After tomorrow, we may be able to add Georgia to the list. The goal is all 50, and all 50 should have constitutional carry (Vermont carry) - no permit required. The 2A is the only permit one needs.

Most states essentially allow guns everywhere, prohibiting adults to carry on college campuses doesn't make sense. If guns are carried at the gas station, the grocery store, and dozens of other places...what makes college campuses special? Nothing. Homicidal nuts and criminals are going to carry anyway. Gun free zones just enable rampage killers.

[rockfordfile]

192. Well the issue more than anything

The issue more than anything would be that a random person at those places doesn't need to carry gun with them.

Unless that person is a gun nut paranoid loser. That's obsessed with guns. A gun culture.

[Duckhunter935]

195. A trained and licensed faculty member

Is not a random person or a trained and licensed concealed permit holder.

[rockfordfile]

201. Well not necessarily true on the trained and licensed concealed permit holder.

Hahaha nice try.

[Duckhunter935]

234. Thats what the law is

A criminal can do that today, they tend not to obey the laes. Silly me, I thought we were discussing the law passed in the OP.

[Lee-Lee]

236. I carry concealed as part of my job and go right to class

I'm not paranoid, not a loser, and I'm well trained in use of my firearms and a certified instructor in multiple states.

I take classes after work. Right now the law says I have to leave my pistol in my car on campus, so I do. Big that's foolish because the campus is known to have had strings to break-ins to vehicles on campus with things stolen. Some of my classmates know what I do for a living and it wouldn't be hard for someone I had a class with or a friend to assume the can steal a gun from my car.

Concealed on my person I know that won't happen.

The gun is at fat more risk of being taken and misused because the law says I have to leave it locked in a car out in a big, unguarded parking lot.

[guytonfox]

54. Um...

LMAO!!!!

[Skittles]

89. please do tell us what is so funny

[petronius]

60. Seems reasonable. IMO, state law should apply on campuses in just

the same way as it applies off campus. And this law still contains restrictions, as well as only applying to staff and faculty...

---Snip---
The law, which allows faculty and staff with state-issued handgun carry permits to carry, is more limited than a bill that Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal must decide on by Tuesday. That measure would allow anyone age 21 and up to carry a concealed handgun on campus with the proper permit.

The Tennessee law, which takes effect on July 1, will keep gun bans in place for stadiums or gymnasiums while school-sponsored events are in progress; meetings where disciplinary or tenure issues are being discussed; hospitals or offices where medical or mental health services are provided; and any location prohibited by another law, such as at day care centers or elementary schools located on campus.
---Snip---

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/guns-campus-bill-law-haslam-signature-38825009

[braddy]

63. It would have helped if you told people what the bill was when you posted this thread, the bill

applies to staff and faculty. "A bill allowing staff and faculty at Tennessee's public colleges and universities to be armed on campus became law Monday"

[TeddyR]

67. Numerous states allow some form of campus carry

Sometimes as a statewide policy, sometimes left up to individual schools. Is anyone aware of any shooting that resulted from such a policy? I've never heard of one.

[stone space]

103. They made it legal in Idaho. It only took 6 days.

http://www.localnews8.com/news/gun-fired-on-isu-campus/27845854

[TeddyR]

112. I stand corrected

Someone accidentally shot themselves. I should have been more specific - any evidence that someone shot another person in anger because of campus carry? Anywhere in any state?

[Jim Beard]

150. NO Guns in Texas Private Universities....They said so!!!

Baylor, TCU, SMU plus the smaller private schools.

[Duckhunter935]

196. They are private

Same as any business if they post the correct signage

[Skittles]

87. rightwing wet dream: everyone armed, everyone paranoid

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check out these Texas gun humpers

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/two-women-shot-outside-walgreens-in-arlington/164716355

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

133. No. Me armed. Everyone safe.

[rockfordfile]

193. That's funny.Sounds like Roscoe.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

237. You mean Trout-town USA Roscoe?

Roscoe Diner Roscoe?

Route 17 Roscoe?

Or another Roscoe?

[braddy]

230. That was actually a woman coming under attack from a shooter from Ft. Hood, an active duty

soldier, he shot and wounded the woman, and an ex marine tried to stop him from fleeing, and was killed.

[Skittles]

232. all in all, guns did not solve much here

a guy shoots his wife in a domestic dispute, and another guy gets gunned down after retrieving his own gun from his car to stop the shooter

[braddy]

262. The "domestic dispute" was him shooting her in a Walgreen's parking lot and trying to flee.

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[Skittles]

264. correct

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it's a good thing others were not killed in the subsequent shootout

two families utterly destroyed, and for WHAT? An argument over a FACEBOOK PICTURE

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/arguement-over-facebook-picture-led-to-good-samaritans-death/167297973

[braddy]

281. What subsequent shoot out? The crazed murderer executed the good guy.

[spanone]

92. my state is pathetic. the republicans are ruining it.

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house, senate, governor....republicans rule and they are cramming it down our throats

[Jim Beard]

152. Can't be much worse than Texas

[Skittles]

231. it would be hard to beat

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/DFW-BREAKING-NEWS-TEMPLATE-377831771.html

[bigwillq]

104. Cool.

[AgadorSparticus]

134. Yikes! 😨😨😨😨😨

[Gidney N Cloyd]

174. Here we go again.

[Initech]

270. Got any popcorn?

[rockfordfile]

288. Yeah I noticed it's only like four or five of the same

They're saying the same thing and come off with republican statements. They pretend to be democrats, but once they open their mouths it game over. I'm having to repeat over and over. Because they're obsessed and bit looney and sound like palin/trump supporters.

You can sometimes tell paranoid loser gun nut republican, they're obsessed with having a gun culture.

Gun culture brought to you by the republican party and nra.

[romanic]

178. I'm all for concealed carrying

but not in schools or universities that are prone to mass-shootings.

[Duckhunter935]

182. By concealed carrying faculty?

Just how many of those have there been? Do tell please

[aikoaiko]

188. We find out within 24 hours if Georgia will follow suit.

[marble falls]

295. Why hasn't a moderator shut down this thread?