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packman

(16,296 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:24 PM May 2016

I'm SOOO fuckin' proud of my governor, Rick Scott

drumming up jobs for Florida:



"Scott’s administration released a radio ad urging California businesses to consider moving to Florida to avoid the state’s new wage floor, which will reach $15 an hour by 2022. Scott then announced he would travel to California himself and personally court businesses in the state. "

New ad "COME TO FLORIDA - Poverty Wages for All"

Jesus, this man has NO clue - He is basically telling businesses that Florida is a 3rd world state with shit pay. What a guy.

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I'm SOOO fuckin' proud of my governor, Rick Scott (Original Post) packman May 2016 OP
Jerry Brown responds: KamaAina May 2016 #1
What an amazing response metroins May 2016 #2
Lol! demmiblue May 2016 #3
I have always liked Jerry Brown. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #9
"Governor Moonbeam" should have been #42. dchill May 2016 #27
He shoots; he scores! The crowd goes wild. sarge43 May 2016 #19
And the Sharks have defeated the Florida Panthers in overtime! KamaAina May 2016 #24
Epic snark right there! ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #20
Awesome response. dmr May 2016 #22
Saw this yesterday malaise May 2016 #25
This should be an OP on its own. Punx May 2016 #32
It is. KamaAina May 2016 #34
As a Floridian I thank Governor Brown for sticking it to pRick Scott! csziggy May 2016 #35
Because Florida extends north of I-4. KamaAina May 2016 #36
I live north of I-4, in Leon County, and we are very blue csziggy May 2016 #38
Did you see California Governor Brown's response? procon May 2016 #4
Hilarious! CentralCoaster May 2016 #5
Brilliant! Pacifist Patriot May 2016 #7
Another upside to Callifornia doing Wellstone ruled May 2016 #6
Rick Scott Turbineguy May 2016 #8
He eats reptiles?? retread May 2016 #10
Buzzards. dchill May 2016 #28
and baby dolphins Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #45
And he'll bring some business back. BKH70041 May 2016 #11
I almost flaged your responce maindawg May 2016 #31
Not surprised BKH70041 May 2016 #40
You sound like you are proud of Scott passiveporcupine May 2016 #39
I live in FL. BKH70041 May 2016 #41
Yes, unfortunately that's America passiveporcupine May 2016 #46
Won't be much...if any. Xolodno May 2016 #43
He's too much of a cretin to think up legitimate ways...... Amaril May 2016 #12
I refer to him as "My" governor packman May 2016 #14
LOL! Amaril May 2016 #15
pRick Perry did that a few years ago. n2doc May 2016 #13
Scott in the morning. Before he's had his coffee. lpbk2713 May 2016 #16
Whut? forest444 May 2016 #17
Governor who stick head in sand.... chknltl May 2016 #18
Bernie Sanders had a great proposal to job/ business stealing between states rurallib May 2016 #21
penis head Angry Dragon May 2016 #23
OMG!!! guytonfox May 2016 #26
Come to Florida. Build your plant, and enjoy producing your products in our underwater environment. JDPriestly May 2016 #29
Skelator libodem May 2016 #30
Fla can secceed maindawg May 2016 #33
Seccceed? Tommy_Carcetti May 2016 #47
If Scott wants to encourage business in Florida why not subsidize SOLAR? csziggy May 2016 #37
I don't want PasadenaTrudy May 2016 #42
The man even LOOKS like a dick. AmBlue May 2016 #44
Well Gollum Gee Willickers! Blue Owl May 2016 #48
Low Mid-Term Turnout Worst Case Repercussion Incarnate. Scurrilous May 2016 #49

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
35. As a Floridian I thank Governor Brown for sticking it to pRick Scott!
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

I will never understand why he was re-elected, much less elected in the first place.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
36. Because Florida extends north of I-4.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

The strange thing is, the farther north you get, the more Southern things get.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
38. I live north of I-4, in Leon County, and we are very blue
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:32 PM
May 2016

As are the counties to either side. This area voted very heavily for Obama both in 2008 and 2012. We are why Gwen Graham, daughter of Bob Graham, got into Congress, defeating a Tea Party moron, Steve Southerland.

Yes, most of North Florida and the Panhandle are red as blood, but Alachua County and Gainesville are as blue as Leon County. The Orlando area with its influx of film industry people has also turned less red than it used to be - that is why Alan Grayson has been able to get into office.

The I-4 corridor itself used to be really red but even that area is fading to purple for most of the length.

procon

(15,805 posts)
4. Did you see California Governor Brown's response?
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:37 PM
May 2016



“I’m writing to welcome you back to California – a state that in the last year has added more jobs than Florida and Texas combined,” Brown said in a letter. “Rick, a fact you’d like to ignore: California is the 7th largest economic power in the world. We’re competing with nations like Brazil and France, not states like Florida.”

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article75151137.html#storylink=cpy



Brown also criticised Scott for sticking his head in the sand and covering up the effects of climate change of the state of Florida. He sent him a new study, and rubbed Scott's nose in it, implying that Florida was a risky move when property was becoming uninsurable due to high tide, storm surge and sea level rise.
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Another upside to Callifornia doing
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:40 PM
May 2016

15 buck minimum is,it is forcing these backassward Employers in Nevada to pay up wither they want to or not. And there is not a threat from Illegals as the Rethugs want you to believe.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
11. And he'll bring some business back.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

Regardless of whether one likes or dislikes what he's doing, it will work. Texas has been the other State that has received news coverage for wooing businesses away from California. So Scott didn't go out there on a whim of "Oh gee, I wonder if...." There's solid evidence that says he can get a substantial numbers of businesses to either relocate or expand into FL, otherwise he wouldn't go. I have no doubt he's already had contact with enough to warrant him making this trip. And he doesn't care if Gov. Brown likes it or not or what kind of letter he wrote. And if CA is gaining all the jobs Brown says they are, then losing a bunch won't really matter.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
31. I almost flaged your responce
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

Like what jobs? Fast food ? I mean real companies have to compete with other real companies . All the manufacturing jobs are in Asia. Why doesn't Rick go to Vietnam and recruit some jobs ? Name one company that will or has moved from California. Idiot Rick the Texas Governor embarrassed himself in the very same way just a couple years ago.You people just keep banging away and never learn anything. Go back to the freeper page please.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
40. Not surprised
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

I've noted on this board it's easier to slap someone on the back and yell for your team than it is to face even the most simplistic of truths.

The only point I made is that Scott will accomplish what he went to do. That's all I said. He went to CA to entice additional businesses to relocate or to open up their territory into FL. Nothing wrong with that.

Now if you want to see some of the businesses who left CA for TX, you can find them using your favorite search engine. But they are there.

I'll only add this: The best thing Brown could have done was to say to businesses "And here's why you should stay" and then make a list. But a letter that says "Mind your own State's business" is easily met by "If you don't like what I'm doing, make them a better offer." Then game on.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
39. You sound like you are proud of Scott
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:39 PM
May 2016

Do you live in Florida? Is he your governor?

Of course he will get some jobs to move there...just like Texas. There are a lot of business people who love slave labor and making profit. But it doesn't even put a dent in the job growth in California. And he doesn't understand why. I don't know if you do either. Higher wages actually help a state/city/community grow. It's only where jobs have been lost and wages dropped that suddenly the once thriving cities and states are struggling with poverty and joblessness. Like Detroit and Flint. Seattle has higher wages than many big cities and it's booming.

People like Bill Gates don't get it either and if anyone should it would be him...yet he still offshores his product manufacturing instead of making it here at home and building up the country with more good paying jobs.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
41. I live in FL.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:48 PM
May 2016

Nothing to indicate he wants to "put a dent in the job growth in CA," just that he's talking to businesses about the advantages of operating in FL as opposed to CA.

Wages are generally most companies largest expense. There's one reason, among others, that companies relocate.

Look, if you got 2 kids in a neighborhood who are willing to mow a lawn, and they both do an equally good job, but one charges $20 and another charges $10, who are you going to get to cut your lawn? Do you really care if the $20 kid is on your block and the $10 kid is 3 blocks over? I know who I'm going to choose. That's America!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
46. Yes, unfortunately that's America
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016

and it's choices like yours that are leaving so many people in poverty and so many children hungry.

If you are a democrat, I don't want to be in that party...I don't think democrats should think that way. As a matter of fact, I can't believe any democrat would say what you just said. .

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
43. Won't be much...if any.
Tue May 3, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

Gov Brown has a point, if insurance is sky high or if a business can't be certain if it has a loss that it will be covered...that's a major drawback right there.

Next, you have to have an available pool of skilled talent that meets your needs. If Florida doesn't have the composite make up for that, the cost of hiring goes up significantly.

Also, weather related events. If weather events can bring your business to a screeching halt and cause significant loss, you have another problem. Florida has issues with weather whereas California does not.

Access to markets is also important, the west coast is closer to Asian markets, manufacturing, etc.

Oh and location, location, location. Sure warehouse wages will go up with the minimum wage increase, but how do you offload a ship from China, Japan, Korea, etc. in Florida? The ship would have to sail via Panama Canal and increase shipping costs (which will make the minimum wage hike look like a pittance) and not to mention, greatly increase delivery time.

And for manufacturing jobs, the inputs also have to be close by. And if you are getting those from say Asia, Mexico or Canada....Florida doesn't look very appealing.

Finally, Infrastructure. Rail lines, roads, cargo airports, etc. are already developed in California. Florida doesn't have this capacity and to do so would result an increase in taxes....something Rick Scott is unwilling to do.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
12. He's too much of a cretin to think up legitimate ways......
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:33 PM
May 2016

....to attract business to the State. This idiotic ploy is sincerely the best he has to offer.

I despise him, and refuse to even acknowledge that he is *my* Governor.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
14. I refer to him as "My" governor
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

in much the same way as I refer to my asshole as "my" asshole or "my" scab on an open wound as "my" scab. I have no love of the guy.

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
21. Bernie Sanders had a great proposal to job/ business stealing between states
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016

Thom Hartmann talks about it all the time.

If the governor of one state makes an outright appeal to businesses in another state to move the US government should suspend all highway funds going into the offending state.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
29. Come to Florida. Build your plant, and enjoy producing your products in our underwater environment.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

Nowhere will you be able to enjoy swimming as you work the way you will in Florida.

Florida offers an aquatic work environment. Who needs dry land?

Florida welcomes climate change. Come on down. The water's great.

Thank you, global warming.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
33. Fla can secceed
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016

I am convinced that we made a huge mistake in 1860 . Wecould have a wonderful country had we allowed the south to succeed. A grand bargain could have been achieved wherein , we allowed them to flounder until we colonies them and subjugated their asses. Obviously they never learned their lesson and their disease has now spead to many northern states. They could have had president Reagon , Bush Nixon,maybe they woukd not have hadto murder our Kennediys ,and we never would have had to suffer any of their madness. I think we could have had a nice border, I think we still can, Cananda has one.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
37. If Scott wants to encourage business in Florida why not subsidize SOLAR?
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

Help businesses manufacture solar panels, give property tax breaks to homeowners who install photo-voltaic panels, insist that utilities buy electricity from homeowners who generate more than they need.

Instead I think that Florida is one of the states that is making harder to get solar installed. They stopped giving state subsidies and are not trying to attract solar manufacturing plants.

AmBlue

(3,104 posts)
44. The man even LOOKS like a dick.
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

Maybe that's why he's so good at screwing people over.

Ashamed to say this man is my governor as well....

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
49. Low Mid-Term Turnout Worst Case Repercussion Incarnate.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:58 PM
May 2016
Rick Scott vetoes bill that would help poor Floridians get dental care

<snip>

"In spite of the unanimous support from Republicans and Democrats in the Florida Legislature, Gov. Rick Scott vetoed a measure that would have provided grants for dentists to open private practices in the state's medically underserved areas.

House Bill 139, sponsored by Rep. Travis Cummings, R-Orange Park, and Sen. Don Gaetz, R-Niceville, would create a program administered by the Florida Department of Health that would provide $10,000 to $100,000 rewards to dentists working in rural or low-income communities, the News Service of Florida reports. The grant money could have been used for repayment of dental school student loans; investment in property, facilities or equipment for the dental office; or expenses related to relocation or opening of a dental practice, according to the bill."

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/04/15/rick-scott-vetoes-bill-that-would-help-poor-floridians-get-dental-care
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