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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melody-moezzi/ten-things-white-people-n_b_9765436.htmlAs an American who reflects an increasingly common and decidedly ambiguous shade of brown, I have been questioned and complimented in some of the strangest waysrarely by people intending to sound racist, but often by people who end up sounding super racist. So I present the following list as a sort of public service. While it is far from exhaustive, it represents a fair sampling of the kinds of comments that often make those of us with more melanin cringeor just never contact you after you give us your business cards. So here goes, in no particular order:
Do not use the word exotic to refer to humans who do not look like you. We are not fruit, and it is not a compliment. The longer you insist on assuring us that it is a compliment, the stupider you look. Just give it up....
Think before asking people to explain an entire race, religion, civilization or geographic region to you simply because they happen to identify with that background. Dont expect a 14-year-old girl who covers her hair to explain all of Islam to you in ten minutes or less simply because youre too lazy to read a book. Get a library card and let her eat her lunch in peace.
metroins
(2,550 posts)Nobody tells an entire race things they can or cannot say in a free country.
If the author wishes to express her dislike for certain words that's fine, but this entire article is offensive and in my opinion racist.
And yes, I read her last paragraph. She comes off as a racist.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)But that might be because I don't have any friends.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)It's because we're no fun. People prefer fun and stupid to smart and not fun.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)... With a hearty helping of victim mentality.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd rationalize her concerns as such too were I intolerant and less educated.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)Give it a check and I'll look in on you later...
Good luck...
clarice
(5,504 posts)TipTok
(2,474 posts)The idea that other people might have different ideas just cannot be tolerated.
clarice
(5,504 posts)TipTok
(2,474 posts)... as long as you choose from this pre-approved list.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)Bonx
(2,051 posts)What if you just had a different opinion ?
clarice
(5,504 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)I'm fucking beige, almost brown!
phylny
(8,367 posts)I'm a speech-language pathologist, and work with children. One of my very favorites is a young, African-American boy I've been seeing for a while.
A few years ago when he was six, during Black History Month, he came into my room and said, "Now, I do like you, and you are white and I am black."
I smiled because I like him too. Knowing anyway, I asked what he was learning in school, and we talked about about Dr. King, and after thinking a moment, he said, "But really, I'm brown and you're beige. Right?"
Right.
I'm Italian from Sicily, Sorrento, and Naples, third generation born in the U.S. Unlike most of my family, I am blue-eyed and had blond hair as a little girl, brown as I grew older. It's mostly grey now. The rest of my family has dark skin and curly, if not kinky hair. Yeah, I'm pretty much beige, with a dash of tan in the summer
I, too, am not a fan of people who tell me what to say and think and do. I'm not an idiot.
MADem
(135,425 posts)However, if you're more than one flavor, and don't feel like explaining to people what percentage of this/that/the other you are, that "ethnic" word comes in handy and shuts people up. "I'm.....ETHNIC" is a great way to cut off conversations with people who might think "ethnic" is an actual race of people~!!
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)#2: what's wrong with the word ethnic?
#6: racists come in all skin colors.
romanic
(2,841 posts)just embolden more people (aka. working class whites - you know the one everyone wonders why they don't vote Democrat) to support trash like Trump.
Admittedly, as someone whose biracial, I've dealt with a couple of those points on that list myself. However I'm smart enough to know not every single white person I come across is going to be a racist ignorant asshat. The author should adopt the same mindset and stop writing condescending race-bait articles those on the right can cite as evidence of "white genocide" or whatever the hell.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Good list, except for that one.
That recent story about the Rhode scholar who gloated because he made a poor white waitress cry?
That guy is a racist.
Living in the Bay Area, with a lot of diverse populations, the amount of racism that comes out of nonwhite populations is dizzying.
Of course, the white people are racist, too.
Sometimes I wish we'd just replace the word racism with "tribalism" because that's really what it comes down to. Every group of humans on the planet can take tribalism to a shitty place - and they often do.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)clarice
(5,504 posts)Skittles
(153,111 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)A Japanese-American IS "exotic" for people in North Dakota, not so much in California. "exotic" simply means something outside of a person's everyday experience.
IMO the real issue is with the creepy eroticizing of "exotic" women, because it is based on notions that non-Western women are submissive and "know their place".
Iggo
(47,534 posts)You just need a functioning brain.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)I have spent my entire life living in the eastern half of the country, and I have yet to encounter it. I have never met an easterner whose Euro-American history is more than a couple hundred years long who did not have some Native-American ancestry as well. And we brag about it.
It would never occur to us that some people might look down upon us for that ancestry.
That said, I'm sure you could find examples in the eastern half: professional fishermen upset by favorable fishing rights granted to Native Americans, for instance. But it is so rare that I have never encountered it.
First time I was out west on business travel, I was dumbstruck by the bigotry I heard against Native Americans. I honestly did not know that such a thing existed. I thought that had died out decades ago.
A full blooded (or at least mostly so) Cherokee gal I knew in Chicago went out west to visit relatives for the first time. She showed up at my house that next Sunday morning in tears. She had never experienced racism directed at her before.
So you have an entire half of the United States geographically, with the majority of the United States population, that has no experience with bigotry aimed at Native Americans. Northerners see enough racism directed at African-Americans to feel it. That problem resonates with us. Easterners don't feel it about Native Americans. It does not seem real to us.
Well, it does to me because of my trips out west. But if not for that experience, I would probably believe it was all just "blaming American today for evils a century in the past".
That is presumably how most Americans think about the notion of "Redskins" as a racial slur. They probably believe the people claiming that are just blaming Americans today for evils a century in the past.
Throd
(7,208 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I agree with some of the points and think others are completely off base. But why in the world would I feel offended?
And the whole 'feel it comment'? In the real world WTF does it even mean?
Quantess
(27,630 posts)linuxman
(2,337 posts)They few good points got covered in bullshit. I don't have time to clean.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Wise words.
Igel
(35,270 posts)I submitted an application. The receptionist asked me several times if I wanted to apply.
It was a good fit, and the job was 1 1/2 blocks from where I lived. I had the form filled out, so I said sure.
As I left, I noticed what she meant. I hadn't noticed it before. She was black, the managers behind their glass walls were black, and all the employees were black. I was the white guy in the room.
I doubt that this was just a random statistical anomaly, in a part of town that was over half white and 10% Asian. I also suspect that the door hadn't closed before my resume and application were in the trash can. Or the subject of hilarity. And nobody would ever say that the management were selecting people and excluding others based on racist thinking.
"Reverse racism isn't a thing" requires a very narrow, very specific, very self-serving definition which means that if you benefit, you're racist even if you do nothing but follow the process, but if you kick somebody and abuse them because of their race you may not be. It allows hatred and race-based contempt and stereotyping based on skin color and gives a pass because of skin color. It's a clever attempt at manipulating (a) the weak minded and (b) those who love their confirmation bias to (c) make a political point using inflammatory language none dare dispute without a potential negative consequence.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)Discrimination based on race is racism. It doesn't matter which direction it goes.
redwitch
(14,940 posts)LOL! I think you are a peach. XO
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)I wonder where she's from
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,145 posts)Discrimination implies the majority group entrenched in power can impose either the law or social structures in their favor and against the interests of the minority. That really can only flow one way, against the minority.
But anyone of any race or ethnic group can be racist or bigoted.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)1.Do not use the word exotic to refer to humans who do not look like you. We are not fruit, and it is not a compliment. The longer you insist on assuring us that it is a compliment, the stupider you look. Just give it up.
I always thought that was a stupid thing to say to a person.
1.Do not use the word ethnic as though it were a distinct race or nationality.
There are no ethnic Poles? I beg to differ.
1.Do not ask people where they are from more than once. Trust them the first time. No need for Where are you really from? or Where are your parents from?
I did not like that when I first got to Chicago. But I finally realized there isn't anything wrong with asking someone about their ancestry. It's just conversation.
1.Avoid statements like, Wouldnt it be great to live during [insert any era during which the person youre talking to couldnt vote or own property]?
I always thought that was pretty stupid too.
1.Resist the urge to ever say, I have a lot of [fill in the blank with the racial, religious or ethnic group with which you are least familiar] friends.
So I am supposed to keep my {insert the blank} friends a secret like I'm embarassed of them or something? "Okay, gay friends, get your asses back in the closet pronto!"
WTF?
1.Remember that reverse racism isnt a thing. Racism is about the abuse of power and privilege. If your race denies you power and privilege, then you cant be racist. Certainly, you can still be an asshole. Just not a racist.
I already knew this.
1.Unless you are one of those people making fun of other people calling you those people, then never say those people.
You are telling me that I am not allowed to make fun of bigots talking about "those people" because I am not one of those people. Are you fucking kidding me? Remember the move exchange:
White actor: something, something, something "those people".
White actor playing a Black character: "what do you mean 'those people'?"
Black actor to #2 above: "what do you mean 'those people'?"
That was the only funny part about that movie. And that part was fucking hillarious.
1.Think before asking people to explain an entire race, religion, civilization or geographic region to you simply because they happen to identify with that background. Dont expect a 14-year-old girl who covers her hair to explain all of Islam to you in ten minutes or less simply because youre too lazy to read a book. Get a library card and let her eat her lunch in peace.
I usually step in when I encounter that one. "Do you know everyone in Chicago, because you do realize there are many millions more people in Egypt than in Chicago."
1.Remember, we are not all from any one place. Pretending we are just makes you look delusional. So avoid the Were all from Africa anyway statements.
Given that I never have....
2.Unless you have achromatopsia, never say I dont see color.
Given that I never have.... However, I do love how comfortable young, urban kids are talking race nowadays in mixed race groups. They seem mostly amused by racists. Of course, I remember when we thought it was going to die out with all the people older than us only to discover there were more in our age group that we realized. But one still has hope.