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Here's a video of those rescued lions checking out their new home (Original Post) joeybee12 May 2016 OP
Aww, look at that face! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #1
I know...I want to hug him! joeybee12 May 2016 #4
One Mothers day MuseRider May 2016 #2
That is a great present! joeybee12 May 2016 #3
It's probably like when you bring a new cat into your house The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #12
Yup... ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #13
But at least you don't have grumpy lions peeing in your house. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #14
I have 5 males MuseRider May 2016 #15
I read somewhere yesterday that some of these lions have never been in an outdoor environment before Arkansas Granny May 2016 #5
Yup, and they have been declawed! joeybee12 May 2016 #6
K&R ReRe May 2016 #7
Yup, I think this is something we can all agree on! joeybee12 May 2016 #8
I didn't know they had been declawed... ReRe May 2016 #9
I wonder why they didn't phylny May 2016 #10
Did you know (I didn't until the other day) enlightenment May 2016 #16
No, but I assume it would reduce the aggressive behavior. phylny May 2016 #25
I suspect enlightenment May 2016 #29
neuter them? AlbertCat May 2016 #21
Sure. My dog was neutered as an adult phylny May 2016 #24
Just one comment, other than the obvious joy, libdem4life May 2016 #11
Pretty surprised that these "experts" wouldn't foresee the aggression. LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #17
They clearly did foresee it; the lions are in separate enclosures. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #18
Zactly. Duppers May 2016 #19
I guess I thought I saw testicles. phylny May 2016 #26
I don't think they've been neutered because they have pretty thick manes. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #28
You're right! I was WRONG. Those guys have their testicles intact! Duppers May 2016 #30
No need for any apology :) phylny May 2016 #32
Okay LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #20
were "anxious" about the aggression. AlbertCat May 2016 #23
True, especially since most of it is posturing... joeybee12 May 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author mrr303am May 2016 #27
K&R! This is so wonderful! Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #31

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
2. One Mothers day
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:35 PM
May 2016

my husband got me the package to support one lioness while she came to their Colorado facility and settled in. Probably one of the nicer gifts I have ever received. They did not keep up their end of it letting me know how things were but I still knew about her, saw photos and felt pretty great knowing we did a little bit to help them. I think they are a very good group.

Hit post too quickly.

This is a lovely video. Of course there are spats and territory fights etc. I bet most of them are eventually able to be in a pack in one of the larger enclosed acreages. Beautiful animals. So happy they are out of the places they were in.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
12. It's probably like when you bring a new cat into your house
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016

and the incumbent cats have hissy fits for awhile. They will settle down after a bit.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
15. I have 5 males
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:22 PM
May 2016

all but one inside. All had been abandoned and 2 were quite feral, one had been elusive at the barn for 6 years. Boy do I know those spats! They occasionally stir it up, spray and calm back down. It is a mess but they needed care and I would not change it. Those lions are so beautiful and I am so happy they have been moved. I think the Internet has been a great teacher of people that we are not the only civilized species, not the only ones to care for both family and friends and now watching how some species are entirely different than we "superiors" always assumed. 😀 I love this.

Arkansas Granny

(31,515 posts)
5. I read somewhere yesterday that some of these lions have never been in an outdoor environment before
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:37 PM
May 2016

They have lived their lives in cages and pens.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
7. K&R
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:42 PM
May 2016

Wow! What beautiful animals! Thank you joeybee12 for bringing this to our attention. As for the trouble of them quarreling through the fence of their cages at each other, and I know it would be more expensive to do i, but the cages need to be set far enough apart that they can't reach through and hurt each other. Might be cheaper than the vet bill though, if they actually hurt each other badly.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
8. Yup, I think this is something we can all agree on!
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016


Well, they've been declawed by the circuses, so they probably wouldn't do too much damage...right now some of the males seem to be trying to assert themselves...I think it will calm down in a bit.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
9. I didn't know they had been declawed...
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:47 PM
May 2016

... yeah, they will settle down soon. And since they have been declawed and have never been in the wild before, I assume they will be fed regularly and well, since they pretty much can't do that for themselves anymore. Again thanks for sharing.

phylny

(8,379 posts)
25. No, but I assume it would reduce the aggressive behavior.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:21 PM
May 2016

What do I really know, though? I was just wondering why they didn't do it, and how they were going to deal with the aggression.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
29. I suspect
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:18 PM
May 2016

they will give them a chance to acclimatize before they make a decision. Poor things have been through hell.

phylny

(8,379 posts)
24. Sure. My dog was neutered as an adult
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:21 PM
May 2016

Reduces testosterone. Doesn't change all the undesirable behavior, but a good majority of it.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. Just one comment, other than the obvious joy,
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:48 PM
May 2016

The good stuff started the minute I hit the video button. Thanks.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
17. Pretty surprised that these "experts" wouldn't foresee the aggression.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:30 PM
May 2016

When forcing new males into a new lion community. There is a natural competition to decide the dominant male.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
18. They clearly did foresee it; the lions are in separate enclosures.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:47 PM
May 2016

They'll snarl and swat at each other through the fences (they are declawed so can't hurt each other that way), and probably will eventually settle down, like house cats getting used to newcomers.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
19. Zactly.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016

The handlers did know. Cats are cats and will settle down. They are neutered males, so they won't be fighting for mating rights.


The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
28. I don't think they've been neutered because they have pretty thick manes.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:48 PM
May 2016

That means that if you tried to take them home and put two of them together, they'd pee on your couch.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
30. You're right! I was WRONG. Those guys have their testicles intact!
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:09 PM
May 2016

Someone said that after they reach adulthood, they are neutred to make them more trainable. But obviously, not these guys. So, I suppose the games are on. Poor guys.

My apologies.



phylny

(8,379 posts)
32. No need for any apology :)
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:39 AM
May 2016

I think we've both spent more than enough time examining and talking about lion testicles.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
23. were "anxious" about the aggression.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:19 PM
May 2016

Male lions....

Y'know the females form the pride, and the males sorta hover around it (If I'm not mistaken)

It seems natural for some aggression among a group of males....y'know to establish pecking orders. But of course you don't want them really hurting each other.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. True, especially since most of it is posturing...
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:19 PM
May 2016

They're testing each other and it would be rare for one to take a really good swipe or bite right off.

Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

Rhiannon12866

(205,233 posts)
31. K&R! This is so wonderful!
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:51 AM
May 2016

Thanks so much for posting this - many of us have been following these beautiful big cats throughout this rescue effort - and it's so great to finally see them in their new forever home...

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