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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's a video of those rescued lions checking out their new home
http://pilotonline.com/news/media/videos/rescued-lions-explore-new-home-in-african-bush/youtube_7fd4720a-b949-54e9-b630-1ca4749ca127.html
The good stuff is towards the end of the video.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Don't think he'll let me, though!
MuseRider
(34,105 posts)my husband got me the package to support one lioness while she came to their Colorado facility and settled in. Probably one of the nicer gifts I have ever received. They did not keep up their end of it letting me know how things were but I still knew about her, saw photos and felt pretty great knowing we did a little bit to help them. I think they are a very good group.
Hit post too quickly.
This is a lovely video. Of course there are spats and territory fights etc. I bet most of them are eventually able to be in a pack in one of the larger enclosed acreages. Beautiful animals. So happy they are out of the places they were in.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)and the incumbent cats have hissy fits for awhile. They will settle down after a bit.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)...but they will never stop peeing where they aren't supposed to in silent protest.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)MuseRider
(34,105 posts)all but one inside. All had been abandoned and 2 were quite feral, one had been elusive at the barn for 6 years. Boy do I know those spats! They occasionally stir it up, spray and calm back down. It is a mess but they needed care and I would not change it. Those lions are so beautiful and I am so happy they have been moved. I think the Internet has been a great teacher of people that we are not the only civilized species, not the only ones to care for both family and friends and now watching how some species are entirely different than we "superiors" always assumed. 😀 I love this.
Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)They have lived their lives in cages and pens.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Terrible, but at least now they'll have a good life.
Wow! What beautiful animals! Thank you joeybee12 for bringing this to our attention. As for the trouble of them quarreling through the fence of their cages at each other, and I know it would be more expensive to do i, but the cages need to be set far enough apart that they can't reach through and hurt each other. Might be cheaper than the vet bill though, if they actually hurt each other badly.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Well, they've been declawed by the circuses, so they probably wouldn't do too much damage...right now some of the males seem to be trying to assert themselves...I think it will calm down in a bit.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... yeah, they will settle down soon. And since they have been declawed and have never been in the wild before, I assume they will be fed regularly and well, since they pretty much can't do that for themselves anymore. Again thanks for sharing.
phylny
(8,379 posts)neuter them? Would cut down on fighting/aggression, I would think.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)that if you neuter a male lion, it will lose its mane and some of the other male characteristics?
https://retrieverman.net/2013/09/21/what-happens-when-you-neuter-a-male-lion/
phylny
(8,379 posts)What do I really know, though? I was just wondering why they didn't do it, and how they were going to deal with the aggression.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)they will give them a chance to acclimatize before they make a decision. Poor things have been through hell.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Does that work if they are adults and have been for a while?
phylny
(8,379 posts)Reduces testosterone. Doesn't change all the undesirable behavior, but a good majority of it.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)The good stuff started the minute I hit the video button. Thanks.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)When forcing new males into a new lion community. There is a natural competition to decide the dominant male.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)They'll snarl and swat at each other through the fences (they are declawed so can't hurt each other that way), and probably will eventually settle down, like house cats getting used to newcomers.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)The handlers did know. Cats are cats and will settle down. They are neutered males, so they won't be fighting for mating rights.
phylny
(8,379 posts)Wonder what I was looking at lol
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)That means that if you tried to take them home and put two of them together, they'd pee on your couch.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Someone said that after they reach adulthood, they are neutred to make them more trainable. But obviously, not these guys. So, I suppose the games are on. Poor guys.
My apologies.
phylny
(8,379 posts)I think we've both spent more than enough time examining and talking about lion testicles.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Its just that they seemed surprised and were "anxious" about the aggression.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Male lions....
Y'know the females form the pride, and the males sorta hover around it (If I'm not mistaken)
It seems natural for some aggression among a group of males....y'know to establish pecking orders. But of course you don't want them really hurting each other.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)They're testing each other and it would be rare for one to take a really good swipe or bite right off.
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Rhiannon12866
(205,233 posts)Thanks so much for posting this - many of us have been following these beautiful big cats throughout this rescue effort - and it's so great to finally see them in their new forever home...