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NFLUENTIAL DEMOCRATIC CONSULTANTS, some of whom work for the Super PACs backing Hillary Clinton, have signed up to fight a bold initiative to create a state-based single-payer system in Colorado, according to a state filing posted Monday.
Coloradans for Coloradans, an ad-hoc group opposing single payer in Colorado, revealed that it raised $1 million over the first five months of this year. The group was formed to defeat Amendment 69, the ballot measure before voters this year that would change the Colorado constitution and permit a system that would automatically cover every state residents health care.
The anti-single-payer effort is funded almost entirely by health care industry interests, including $500,000 from Anthem Inc., the states largest health insurance provider; $40,000 from Cigna, another large health insurer that is current in talks to merge with Anthem; $75,000 from Davita, the dialysis company; $25,000 from Delta Dental, the largest dental insurer in the state; and $100,000 from SCL Health, the faith-based hospital chain.
The filing reveals that the anti-single-payer group has retained the services of Global Strategy Group, a Democratic consulting firm that has served a variety of congressional candidates and is currently advising Priorities USA Action, one of the Super PACs backing Clintons bid for the presidency.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)DEMOCRATIC CONSULTANTS, some of whom work for the Super PACs backing Hillary Clinton
Baobab
(4,667 posts)need to realize, is not anything we;ve been told about, instead its bad trade policy hatched during the 1990s which was intended to lock us out, of health care affordability, not just us but the whole world, at least the whole WTO membership.
This paper goes into depth about it.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... but advocates for universal health coverage.
But then she also takes big bucks from the insurance industry, so she's obligated to them.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)with substandard health care.
Thats its ideology.
hunter
(38,817 posts)Doctors motivated by the money, skilled at selling themselves to very wealthy people, may not be the best doctors.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Either Clinton's a good liar or her faithful are tone deaf.
MidwestTech
(170 posts)Hillary, like Obama, has not actually hidden who she is... no one is listening.
at no point has Mrs Clinton actually stated she's a liberal or progressive.
she's a moderate, like obama, and bill, et al.
I don't know why people are so surprised when she acts like she's always acted.
her hard kore PUMAs just don't care (tone deaf) or they know and are trying desperately to hide it from the general populace who they KNOW will revolt.
I'm not afraid of whoever wins the white house, honestly.
oi'm afraid of the downward spiral. both options presented to us by the media will hurt this country.
one faster than the other is all.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I don't consider her a moderate either. Her support of the Iraq War and cluster bombs knocks her out of the "moderate" category.
Her followers don't care what her positions are. They seek a tough authoritarian leader. The fact that she is tough on the 99% and not on the 1% is ok with them.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)I'm not sure what that means...
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Single Payer would be a national program with IMMENSE Collective Bargaining Power with both the Health Care Providers and the Pharmaceutical Corporations.
"Universal Health Care" has come to mean the everybody has Health Insurance.
I don't believe that any one state has enough of a Risk Pool to make a State Run Public Option viable, and that gives the Insurance Industry Ammo point to states like Vermont as say,
"See, we tried it, and it didn't work."
Colorado will be in the same boat.
IIRC, there is also a Poison Pill written into the ACA that states that for an individual state to implement a state run program, it must break even the first year....that NO State or Federal funds can be used to help with start up costs and low return during the enrollment process. Under these conditions, there is no way for a new State Run Public Option system to survive the first year. Ask Vermont.
We NEED a National Single Payer Public Option. Nothing less will work.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)Maybe they have a reason to be against the proposed ballot measure as it is currently written. Same reason so many marijuana advocates were against the ballot measure here in WA. They knew if something bad got passed, it be even harder to fix it.
maindawg
(1,151 posts)You nailed it. That's the standard textbook lie. Bullseye. Sure don't want to make the problem worse by doing the right thing . Move the goal posts , better luck next time.
It is utterly evil to keep people inbondage to the private corporate money users It is against the very law of the land it's UN constitutional. It only hurts the poor and the almost poor .Almost poor, is poor. While the millionaires stash trillions we can't get to see a doctor?
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Now cover-ups are the norm. here is the real reason, we are held hosptage to a bad trade ideology.
http://www.maine.gov/legis/opla/ctpchlthcaresub.pdf
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Of course they do. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)Not surprising but still disappointing.
TryLogic
(1,839 posts)rurallib
(63,085 posts)If I have learned nothing else here I have learned this.
onecaliberal
(35,455 posts)This is why I'm just done with them. With the exception of a handful, the party is just as corrupt and paid off as the republicans are. They WANT people to die, so they can make more MONEY. If this isn't flat out evil, I don't know what is.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Our Democratic Party has become merely a lobbyist for those who are pricing us out of health care as we speak! Not to mention lobbyists for every other evil-doing transglobal corporation and bankster--those robbing us blind, off-shoring their taxes, and KNOWINGLY killing the very planet we all depend upon for life itself.
Disgusting.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... Stupid "Republicans" and More Stupid "Democrats" ...
... it's going very, very well for the sewer rich ...
Oldenuff
(582 posts)I'd like to think that there are still progressives within the party..but it seems they are in a distinct minority.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,352 posts)there is no "moderates" left other than a few reps like Sanders.
clg311
(119 posts)And I 'm sure media flacks in Denver will mock the supporters of single payer the same way the corporate media mock the supporters of Sanders.
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)be afraid to challenge the status quo. Progressives must be influential in our Party. There are interests which will always fight for the greedy.
OK... so does anyone not get what this is saying? DU seems to be frequented of late by people who can't understand plain English. I thought it was pretty clear.
How is it that a political candidate in this country can flip-flop on such an important issue as single-payer healthcare within a 25-year period? Can someone who understands that explain how that works? Is it kind of like the drug use issue... "yeah I did that 25 yrs ago when I was a kid, but I don't do that anymore. Ha-ha." Of course it isn't. That's not like the issue of Universal Health Care.
"Democratic Consultants" my ass. They are Ins. Co lobbyists who will fight to the death to be absolutely sure that the health insurance monopoly will continue to govern whether we live or effing die, or hang on by the skin of our effing teeth, and make absolutely sure they maintain a grip on that big wad of MONEY. Everyone got that?
Thanks, dixiegrrrrl. It's all pretty plain to me.
did you read that?
KPN
(16,032 posts)NightWatcher
(39,353 posts)Hillary is not feeling very democratic. If the Party wants to go that way too, I predict a lot of Progressive people might reexamine their party affiliations, and or stay home on Election Day.
Damn shame.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The party will get massacred again this year and in 2018
Volaris
(10,540 posts)Lovely, isn't it?
freebrew
(1,917 posts)because the other side has lost it's f*ing marbles...
and hasn't chosen a candidate since (dog knows when) that understands the basic concepts of gravity.
You know, the one that says 'what goes up must come down'???
But, 'right wing female' is sort of oxymoranic isn't it??
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)first and foremost priority is to keep a progressive out of the WH. The Oligarchy as explained by both Goldman-Sachs and the Koch Bros would be happy with either Clinton or other Republicon.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)1/3 votes Donald, 1/3 votes for Democratic Hillary and 1/3 vote Bernie.
House here we come and it would be Ryan's task to see????? wins
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)A battle of the have more and want more, over people who want affordable health care.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)That must be a neoliberal Republican-lite group.
mountain grammy
(27,152 posts)This will be a battle in Colorado with both side demonizing this initiative. I have little hope it will pass, but I'll work for it as hard as I can.. Coloradans for Coloradans, ha, what a joke, like Coloradans for Responsible Energy Development, or CRUD, oops, CRED, pushing fracking down our throats with dozens of daily commercials.
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)I didn't even note the name until I saw your post.
Maybe the point has been reached where front groups don't even have to get inventive with their naming, as they don't ever seem to get called out by the general public for absurd names that are designed to appear as though their agendas are basically the opposite of what they really are.
Actually, as I was typing, I realized that there is a further step down that path. An insurance front group could name itself, say, in the case of this battle, Coloradans for Universal Health Care. Instead of vaguely bulshitty, just going all the way.
Or... an ExxonMobil propaganda front group opposing progress toward addressing global warming calling itself 'Americans for Affordable Public Housing,' and, of course, having no interest in or position on public housing.
Yep, make way for 'Americans for Everybody,' 'The National Institute of Good Things,' and 'Citizens United Just Because.'
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)is apparently now the party standard.
KPN
(16,032 posts)I'm with you -- still registered D, but not for long. And Hillary damn well won't get my vote in the fall.
It's Bernie or Bust --- because we're going to bust anyway!
randr
(12,462 posts)Single player is on and we chose Bernie
Peregrine Took
(7,493 posts)Pukes!
dchill
(40,127 posts)for a legitimate Democrat.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... let these treacherous DINO swine be drummed out of the Democratic Party for-fucking-EVER!
KPN
(16,032 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)As a positive point for the ACA?
Don't remember back then that influential Democrats would be the ones trying to block that change.
Volaris
(10,540 posts)It would have been another obvious reason to scream our silly little liberal heads off about not getting a damned Public Option.
It's a hell of a lot easier for lobbying interests to kill State initiatives than Federal ones...and lobbying firms know it.
So of course that little bone was thrown to us, because they knew someone would try to swallow it, and then choke themselves on it.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)When the core is bad, small changes don't address the problem.
I hope the people in Colorado can get single payer in place.
But it will be a big fight, since so many forces have a stake in keeping the system as is and the profits rolling in.
Volaris
(10,540 posts)I wish them well.
rury
(1,021 posts)tom_kelly
(1,044 posts)for not pulling a lever for HRC in the GE? Bullshit! As I've said before, I will never again vote for the lesser of two evils for President in a GE. I've always, and will always vote but them Clinton days are over for this cat.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)Been saying that for years.
Gman
(24,780 posts)And not what some unknown website thinks it is or says it is.
Damn, that's funny.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)-Tolstoy
Gman
(24,780 posts)A source of truth.
"Truth, like gold, is to be obtained not by its growth, but by washing away from it all that is not gold."
snot
(10,660 posts)Vote2016
(1,198 posts)that's what the lobbyists who run our party demand.
Sickening.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)same with smoking on planes, same-sex marriage laws, minimum wage, etc -- the tide eventually wins, but the people that dump money into the system keep it alive a few more years longer than it was planned
delay the inevitable, but the inevitable is coming for them, and they'll live to see the day it changes
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)but read the article. It's a bunch of "some of whom" and "served a variety" ...
Most of you seem to interpret this post as a "Clinton is funding anti-single payer", but be honest, that is a reach.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Or am I mixing that name up with another similar sounding Global something or other, that Clinton formed.. ??
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)It's one thing for Clinton, her financial backers and her supporters to tell us we can't have UHC...that's bad enough.
But when you and your people are actively working to kill it....well fuck those people.
Want to work to kill single payer in my state? Well...you don't get my vote. Shove your ballot straight up your nose.
Guess she doesn't need my vote in this swing state.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)KPN
(16,032 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Third Way is a dead end.
eridani
(51,907 posts)In every age demographic, 15% of that demographic accounts for 85% of health care costs. 5% accounts for HALF. That means that the 85% healthy majority thinks they already have good insurance and are not likely to ever find out otherwise.
Oldenuff
(582 posts)I am Shocked!
Shocked I tell you!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)MaeScott
(882 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)while she tells the rubes she is 'opposed'...'considering with certain changes'...'will investigate further'....etc.
KPN
(16,032 posts)Passing this on to the Bernie campaign.
marmar
(77,958 posts)..... those are our options.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Twice.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Sad to see who they really work for.
CanonRay
(14,765 posts)Fuck the people.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)ISeeA BrightFuture
(22 posts)We can help to overturn their overturning
Single Payer in Colorado donations to pass the bill:
https://hcac.nationbuilder.com/donate
More info about this organization is here:
http://www.healthcareforallcolorado.org/mission
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)What is it, you fucksticks? Why do you not support single payer?
SalviaBlue
(3,022 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)TryLogic
(1,839 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)of the fact that Hill is not OUR friend. If 'our' is one of the 99% of Americans that is.
Birds of a feather and all that shit so don't tell me I'm off base in what I just typed