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rurallib

(62,406 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:12 PM May 2016

Trump as the real nominee sends a shiver down my spine

Frankly, it is a terribly sobering and scary thought that Donald Trump is actually the nominee for the Republicans.
With the hackable voting machines and the voters that have been disenfranchised, Trump as president is a real and frightening possibility.

Flat out scary

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Trump as the real nominee sends a shiver down my spine (Original Post) rurallib May 2016 OP
Whatever happens, we'll handle it. Hortensis May 2016 #1
maybe a scare like this will shake some out of their lethargy. rurallib May 2016 #2
Oh, it's not so much faith in "the U.S.," Rurallib, Hortensis May 2016 #24
I feel the same way. femmocrat May 2016 #3
Better than Cruz, says this Texan. ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #4
Correct. yourpaljoey May 2016 #26
Cruz would have been done in by the bipartisian mutual hatred of him. Tommy_Carcetti May 2016 #28
I agree. complain jane May 2016 #5
I'm watching too. DesertRat May 2016 #7
she does not seem to be able to make a real expression Skittles May 2016 #22
If she can handle being married to that complain jane May 2016 #30
Biologically mature bodies with under-developed cognition, that's how grown adults did this. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #29
Me too DesertRat May 2016 #6
He just said "We have to take out Isis now" bettyellen May 2016 #8
"We're going to become one beautiful, loving country" DesertRat May 2016 #11
It is bizarre. Rachel Maddow was disheartened- described him as a "reality TV star"... bettyellen May 2016 #13
It's so true DesertRat May 2016 #14
Sad but true. Thank god he has offended everyone and lies like a rug. bettyellen May 2016 #15
We've become a celebrity obsessed country. Well at least his voters are Person 2713 May 2016 #17
I am celebrating FLPanhandle May 2016 #9
I hope you are 100% correct rurallib May 2016 #10
Flat out! mountain grammy May 2016 #12
The Republican elites would rather steal it for Hillary Reter May 2016 #16
They hate that they can't control him, that's for sure. nt cyberswede May 2016 #19
...and after the electorate elected GWB twice*...I have no faith that they will be sensible cyberswede May 2016 #18
What's scary is Trump while horrible wasn't by far the worse that party offered this election cycle Johonny May 2016 #20
I hate to admit it, but must give credit where it's due. Volaris May 2016 #21
Oh I do so agree bobGandolf May 2016 #23
Agreed. And the far-right wackos at RedState are frantic about their 'fake' republican. pampango May 2016 #25
It has been coming for how many years now? I knew when HAVA was pushed and passed silvershadow May 2016 #27

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Whatever happens, we'll handle it.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:14 PM
May 2016

Our Democracy is a strong, stable structure, in spite of these tremors.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
2. maybe a scare like this will shake some out of their lethargy.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

wish I had your faith in the US these days.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Oh, it's not so much faith in "the U.S.," Rurallib,
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:17 AM
May 2016

more faith that many of us are now recognizing that we have a responsibility to protect our nation from getting sucked into the GOP's death spiral. Many conservatives say they will not vote for Trump -- recognizing that responsibility. Not all will hold to that, but some will, and it seems safe to say turnout across the rest of the political spectrum will be high in November.

I also expect that almost all of Sanders's supporters will pivot to defeating Trump and capturing as much of congress as we can -- with or without Sanders.

But we really could use Sanders' help, instead of hindrance. At one time I really thought he was responsible enough to do what he needed, now it's looking as if his belief in the righteousness of his cause is warping his judgement. We'll see. Progressive leader or intransigent gadfly?

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
3. I feel the same way.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

He will shred the democratic nominee, whoever it is. It makes me sick thinking about it.

And God forbid, if he wins.... who will actually run the country? Trump is only in this for his gargantuan ego and has no concern for the country, the population, or governmental procedures.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
28. Cruz would have been done in by the bipartisian mutual hatred of him.
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:17 AM
May 2016

Trump's a different kind of animal. And he's got a fanbase of fascist loyalists caught up in a cult of personality.

Cruz might have been very scary ideologically, but I didn't fear him as an opponent.

Trump, as both an opponent and potential president, scares the ever living daylights out of me. And it has nothing to do with any percieved weaknesses or criticisms of our own nominee, whoever he or she might ultimately be. I'd be terrified if Barack Obama was still running against Trump, or we had the 2nd coming of FDR against Trump.

Trump's just one scary, crazy dude, period.

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
5. I agree.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:22 PM
May 2016

Watching his speech now. All he's doing is bragging and complaining he hasn't gotten enough credit for all of the winning he's done. How could grown adults actually think this shitshow of a human being should be POTUS.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
7. I'm watching too.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:25 PM
May 2016

I wonder if Melania is ready for this. Turn off the volume and look at her face. I think that her expression right now is very flat.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
6. Me too
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

I hate Ted Cruz, but the idea of Trump as the nominee is truly frightening. He's a narcissist with NO understanding of the constitution or how our government works.
He's also still a BIRTHER. That's the political equivalent of believing that the earth is flat.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
11. "We're going to become one beautiful, loving country"
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:32 PM
May 2016

"We're going to build a wall" then "We're going to have unbelievably great relationships with the Hispanics".

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
14. It's so true
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:38 PM
May 2016

If he wasn't on the Celebrity Apprentice for several seasons, he would have just been a buffoon running for president and would have been out last fall.
We've become a celebrity obsessed country.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
17. We've become a celebrity obsessed country. Well at least his voters are
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:48 PM
May 2016

Living with broken down cars
And hooked on the stars

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
9. I am celebrating
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:29 PM
May 2016

First off, Cruz is 100 times scarier than Trump.

Secondly, Trump will crater the GOP.

I love it!!!

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
10. I hope you are 100% correct
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:32 PM
May 2016

and please be sure to post on election night that what you said would happen did happen.
Until then, I will be scared at what that idiot is so close to doing.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
18. ...and after the electorate elected GWB twice*...I have no faith that they will be sensible
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:51 PM
May 2016

*once, really

My only hope is that Trump really doesn't want the actual JOB of being president, and he'll do something to sabotage the deal. Hopefully it's egregious enough that everyone will flock to the Democratic nominee.

Johonny

(20,833 posts)
20. What's scary is Trump while horrible wasn't by far the worse that party offered this election cycle
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

If he won he would hardly be the worse elected GOP in Washington. There are but a hand full of GOP in Washington not complete crap. Trump's win signals that there will be more terrible GOP candidates in the future. That party is dead to me. I respect no one that votes Republican. There is nothing to respect.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
21. I hate to admit it, but must give credit where it's due.
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:59 AM
May 2016

This has to be, BY FAR, the ballsy-ist LongCon in history.

Danny Ocean eat your fucking heart out.

But yeah, the GOP is gonna get their ass kicked now.

Welcome to The General Election, Donnie!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
25. Agreed. And the far-right wackos at RedState are frantic about their 'fake' republican.
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:34 AM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027802691

... if a liberal is going to sit in the oval office, let us not take part in putting them there with our names on their support roster. Let us not let a man for 4 years get up on that bully pulpit and create a mistrust of conservatism that destroys the meager gains we've managed.

... Hillary would be more likely to face gridlock on liberal policies than Mr. Trump would.

The party is already destroyed simply by his nomination. #NeverTrump intends to at least salvage conservatism.

Oddly, if you substitute 'Clinton' for 'Trump' and exchange 'liberal' and 'conservative', the whole thing sounds vaguely familiar.

It would look like this:


... if a conservative is going to sit in the oval office, let us not take part in putting them there with our names on their support roster. Let us not let a woman for 4 years get up on that bully pulpit and create a mistrust of liberalism that destroys the meager gains we've managed.

... Donald would be more likely to face gridlock on conservative policies than Ms. Clinton would.

The party is already destroyed simply by his nomination. #NeverClinton intends to at least salvage liberalism.
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
27. It has been coming for how many years now? I knew when HAVA was pushed and passed
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:26 AM
May 2016

during Bushco, it was bullshit. To fix a problem we didn't have. Bait and switch. The problems we had with elections at that time did not need new computers to solve them. Voting can be done with a pencil and paper.

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