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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWas there more than just Indiana in Cruz' decision?
Here's the deal:
- Cruz knew the math going in.
- For weeks he's known the only viable path was a contested convention.
- So for weeks he's been gathering "2nd ballot delegates" (Trump delegates who would vote for Cruz after the first ballot).
- Even if Trump had 1237 going into Cleveland, Cruz had a couple of "dirty trick" options.
- The Indiana vote was no surprise (results differed from the polls by only 2-4%).
So why the sudden concession? Could the Anonymous threat to reveal the "5 prostitutes evidence" have been the final straw?
His concession doesn't make sense to me.
Freddie
(9,259 posts)Stolen from FB.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I think Cruz has stepped aside for a couple of reasons: (1) the original scam has fallen apart, no sense trying to ride it any further; and (b) he wants to see what's in it (Trump's nomination) for him. Time to move on to the next scheme.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)more palatable GOP candidates hadn't dropped out AND the establishment hadn't thrown their support to him. He actually lucked out to get so far given he is 100% certifiably nutty. Unfortunately we had to listen to him for so long and making us listen to Carly again was just plain cruel
kay1864
(5,064 posts)I had to switch off NPR for a bit a few weeks ago, once I heard her nasally voice. I had (thankfully) forgotten how awful she sounds (and how awful her words are).
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)how certain voices completely turn people off. If I was seeking office I would definitely visit a voice/speech coach first. For me, besides Cruz, Palin, and Carly - Kasich is horrible too. It's just this WAY too folksy tone that might work in Ohio but just sounds too corny for the rest of the country. The man has zero hipness/coolness about him.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)wonders of the story about his father and Lee Oswald might just have some truth to it. Did Trump dig up some dirt?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)But fact checkers:
But that same expert told us in a phone interview that he never claimed the man in the picture with Oswald was definitely Rafael Cruz, only that comparing the man in the photo with a photo of Cruz as a young man revealed more similarities than dissimilarities. In fact, he called Trumps definitive proclamation stupid.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/05/03/fact-check-donald-trump-ted-cruz-rafael-cruz-lee-harvey-oswald/83896160/
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)never heard anyone say for certain until the big win in Indiana, that it was
certain Trump would get there.
As long as he knew Trump not certain - he could keep on and hope Trump did something incredibly stupid (more than usual). Perhaps he hoped his crazy speech about Trump trashing his dad would have done it.
So maybe his thought was he would give it everything he had in Indiana and hope for best. And, he failed, even lost evangelicals.
kay1864
(5,064 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)more and more. He would look like an idiot if he went to the convention and pulled those tricks.
Unfortunately, someone said, Cruz is young, and he will be back for the next four elections.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)Carnival Cruz was out of hard dollars and you can not fight in California without some significant support and money
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Kasich is also bowing out. It's a sign they're admitting defeat and moving on to trying to get Trump in the WH.
"Better Trump than Hillary" will now be replacing "Dump Trump."