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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave y'all seen the new video attacking Trump? It is FANTASTIC!
I know a lot of people are worried that Trump will have an advantage, but, I really don't think so. He doesn't have the minority vote or the women's vote. He's toast. But, check out this great video. Guaranteed to put a smile on your face. Happy hump day, folks!
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Name. And the look on his face says it all. 😂
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)SunSeeker
(51,523 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Hillary needs to tell voters how she is going to win back the jobs that our industry has sent to Mexico and other low-wage countries.
How is she going to keep our water clean in a country in which wages are stagnant and a lot of people struggle to pay the water bill?
Seems like it should be easy to beat Trump, but Hillary has her own problems.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)even if half our nation is hurting or at least lacks prosperity, and with the last GOP administration in the history books the GOP is mostly off the emotional hook for our problems. It's going to be different. At the presidential level, Trump, who's very ideologically amorphous, depending on the situation, may well claim many of our positions on economic issues as his own.
Social and legal justice issues, though, are liable to be sharply divisive, and, as that guy who built his campaign on promises to persecute Hispanics and to block Muslims from entering our nation, yoooge.
But most people look to the presidential race to define and express what they care about as a party, and that function is likely to fall to the candidates in the states. I'm wondering if The Donald's lack of strong ideology and feelings about any issue (except as it reflects on The Donald) won't at least soften some of the sharply defined partisan edge we've gotten used to on many of the usual issues.
Such as the economy and healthcare. His anti-establishment right-wing trumpers and our anti-establishment bernistas may look to different solutions, but economically they're all unhappy about the same things. He'll have a rhetorical advantage over Hillary with them because, while she's explaining the items on her economic to-do list to the vast ideologic middle, he'll be stoking their anger and promising pie in the sky.
Gene Debs
(582 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)This just makes Trump stronger.
Mitt, Jeb, some people I don't recognize - that will just make a lot of people say Trump is an outside the beltway reformer. Would be better with just the same words read by a narrator and then the clips of Trump making an ass of himself.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)At the moment, Trump is running against himself and Hillary just has to stay out of the way and look presidential, talk about issues. Two things she is more than able to do.
JustAnotherGen
(31,783 posts)I'm friends with a mixed couple - She's Democratic and He is of the Republican persuasion - albeit north East fiscal conservative type.
His response on Facebook yesterday - I never thought in my life I would vote for a Democratic for President but this ignorant bigot forces my hand.
Then - get this:
I only have daughters.
DrBulldog
(841 posts)Reiyuki
(96 posts)Am I the only one that thinks this is a horribly crafted attack-ad?
It gives the impression that the Republican establishment hates Trump, and IMHO that is the worst possible image you can present.
It gives credibility of Trump as being independent, an outsider against the establishment, and a winner in the face of a dozen critics that just lost this week.
Being that the race is generally decided by independents, does this video do more harm or good?
WTH are they thinking?!
bunnies
(15,859 posts)I cant believe her ad people didn't think of that. Hell, Trump will probably start playing it himself.
And welcome to DU.
Thanks for that, but I've been around for a while, mostly listening and observing. I just had to post this to warn people what 'outsiders' are going to see. Not seeing the possible negative ramifications of this ad is a huge blindspot.
Passion can motivate us but can often blind us as well. I've supported great candidates that lost because they were simply bad at convincing others. These kind of candidates need smart support as well as passionate support. I say this more as advice for those trying to help their candidate win to be smart about it, to think clearly about how you can convince strangers to vote for your candidate.
Successfully persuading others is worth far more than your own single vote. The more that take advantage of this fact, the more likely you have of winning.
mnhtnbb
(31,374 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)If we have to endure some racism and misogyny in order to deal with the real threat - which is not our own 1% but THE OTHERS who are lurking outside our borders - then we have to endure so that an "America First" superhero can save us from the evil foreigners ruining our country.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... listening to the pundits wax eloquent about his lack of qualifications, his rough speech, etc, etc, etc.
For those of you who DON'T GET IT, Trump supporters don't give a shit about those things. IT IS A PROTEST VOTE. A protest against a lost decade where the country was falling apart and Washington could not be bothered to do jack shit.
A protest against mealy-mouthed politicians who will say anything and then do nothing. Why would anyone care about campaign rhetoric when a politician's actions are so clearly and reliably disconnected from anything s/he says?
All of you who think HRC is a shoo-in based on Trump's "qualifications" or his policies are just goofy at best.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)the House, Senate, and Presidency. And even then, unless it's an overwhelming majority - you'll have some hold outs. Or, you can compromise - which has been impossible for the last 7 years because the right decided at lunch on Obama's first inauguration day not to ever, ever let him get anything he wants done.
For the right - what they don't get - is that there are still enough people who care about people to stop most of their insanity.
And then there are the lobbies...which is a whole other discussion...
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)You can't fix racists or bigots. It is the more moderate folks thinking of voting for him that they are targeting.
Hillary is a shoe in because he has managed to alienate huge segments of the population. Not sure how anyone can think he will win a national election without the Asian, Latino, African American, and women vote.
As he locks the Republican nomination, he will change his tone and become more centrist. He even says so. This ad is targeting those people he is hoping to capture with his move to the middle.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... nonetheless HRC has a huge huge chunk of the population who would not only not vote for her but would vote for the devil himself if he opposed her.
HRC's ride to the white house is not going to be as cut and dried easy as many seem to think IMHO.
randr
(12,409 posts)These clips have been running over and over. They have no effect on the people who need to hear an anti Trump message, the minions who are voting for him. They preach to the choir and will do nothing to change the fright wingers perception of Trump.