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if not to attempt to evade public scrutiny?
I defend that they are fishing with the classified stuff, but why do it in the first place?
Doesn't help with the trust factor
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)The same reason that Powell and Rice used one. It's a pain in the ass to work through regular channels and they didn't feel they needed too.
It's a stupid reason and a dumb thing to do.
moonbabygo
(281 posts)did not have a private server, however they did receive a couple of emails to their private emails.
As for Hillary I do believe she used it for convenience, but it was still wrong. There is a reason the FBI is all over this and someday we will find out. Until then she is innocent of any wrong doing
thesquanderer
(12,921 posts)Powell and Rice did not use a private server.
They did occasionally use a personal email account (not exclusively, as Hillary did). If they took steps to make sure that those emails were still archived on a government system, it is permitted. (I don't know the details of what the two of them did or didn't do.) There is a separate issue as to (in any of these cases) whether any of the messages sent via personal account contained classified information, which would be prohibited regardless.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Powell and Rice merely used private email services.
Do you now understand the problem?
cali
(114,904 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Obama's scrutiny, Bill being able to work with her on it more easily, as he knew all these foreign countries and leaders. Those are the reasons I believe. Jmho.
stopbush
(24,788 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't an open secret in government circles. Something you don't talk about because you don't want our enemies to know how poor our cybersecurity really is.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Instead of a government facility.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)There are a lot of things our government is bad at. IT security is generally not one of them. Considering the massive volume of highly motivated and well-funded attacks on govt systems, the actual occurrence of breeches is stunningly low. No private company in the world could withstand such attacks.
When breeches have happened, it is usually because of the human element. For example, operating a private e-mail server which is exchanging e-mails with government employees. That provides valuable header information and social engineering clues to hackers.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Something like that. This article says the NSA wouldn't give her a secure iPhone:
http://fortune.com/2016/03/17/clinton-email-server/
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bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)when she ran for President.
2. Because she was not qualified to be SOS she could have Billy boy help her with the stuff she needed to do.
QC
(26,371 posts)That's my theory, at least.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Take this shit to GDPee!
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The infamous Romanian hacker known as Guccifer, speaking exclusively with Fox News, claimed he easily and repeatedly breached former Secretary of State Hillary Clintons personal email server in early 2013.
"For me, it was easy ... easy for me, for everybody," Marcel Lehel Lazar, who goes by the moniker "Guccifer," told Fox News from a Virginia jail where he is being held.
Guccifers potential role in the Clinton email investigation was first reported by Fox News last month. The hacker subsequently claimed he was able to access the server and provided extensive details about how he did it and what he found over the course of a half-hour jailhouse interview and a series of recorded phone calls with Fox News.
haele
(15,207 posts)I've used government networks quite a bit before.
While for the most part, government servers they are a bit more secure than private servers - and they are managed 24/7 - government networks are cludgy; limited availability, limited bandwidth, slow, incompatible with many platforms, devices, software or other even other government networks (especially if you're looking for information in a hurry), and they're always pushing updates and requiring re-boots during inconvenient working hours.
If a federal government employee (state or local employees may have different rules) that is constantly traveling wants to use a dedicated personal VPN because a government server access may not be optimal in some areas, there are rules in place to be able to have, use, and secure that network. Including the requirement to dedicate that server to government work (limited personal work), allowing complete government access for audits. Just as if it were an official government network.
The private server is not an issue. That a high-level government manager who traveled a lot had one is not uncommon.
What was done on the server is the issue. So long as the State Department has complete access to her server, who cares? It's a State Department issue, and they're the ones to make the decision on whether or not that information can be released.
Haele
Kingofalldems
(40,093 posts)What is the reason you are posting this? Already been asked and answered by Hillary Clinton herself.
Looks like you have some other motivation.
thebeautifulstruggle
(95 posts)but have recently wondered why she would even go there given her intentions to run again for president
karynnj
(60,832 posts)She said it was convenience. She said it was a mistake to combine personal and work email. She said that the SD actually had 95% or so of her email.
What she never explained, is:
- If the issue was JUST convenience, why not have her IT person set up a process that in real time archived the incoming and outgoing email at the State Department. (That could happen without impacting what HRC does. Of course, a good first step would have been to have 2 accounts on her very own server - one personal and one work. )
- Why it took MONTHS and NEGOTIATIONS to get the emails back that they needed to comply with inquiries. Not to mention, why does her team continue to lie about the timing - pretending the official October request to all SoS was the first they heard. (The difference is that it was about 9 months from when the SD first spoke to her team and when they got the emails)
NightWatcher
(39,376 posts)That being using the Clinton Foundation as a front to accept bribes for things she did do as Sec of State and will do as Prez.
karynnj
(60,832 posts)She has admitted that having one account for everything was a "mistake". To me, it brings up an additional question. Did she, at any point, intend to archive her emails? Having just one account makes that seem highly unlikely.
Seriously? Wouldn't you at least expect that she would create folders to keep the emails organized. This was correspondence dealing with national security issues by the third highest ranked person in the administration. Yet, her email was just read in - no sort at all? Yoga schedule followed by emails on embassy security??
Hillary had FOIA and Congressional inquiries even when she was the secretary. The career professionals whose jobs it were to search to find what matched the request did not have her email .. or at least all of it. Did it simply not occur to her that this was concealing information? Worse, did it not occur to her when she left none of it behind, that at some point, the problem would rise to the Secretary level? Did she really expect Kerry to just cover for her rather than demand the emails?
