Good God have Mercy.. did anyone listen to MSNBC just now

[Peacetrain]

I do not know if I even heard this right.. Paul Manafort SP? the top advisor to Trump.. has this history of working for the Russians oligarchs .. and Trump as the candidate for the the Republicans will start getting top secret information and advice.. from the goverment .. does anyone besides me think this is NOT a good thing..

[Firebrand Gary]

1. Yes, I heard it too.

Tump really is an extinction level event.

[Peacetrain]

2. I thought I had misheard it at first..

I am away from the TV right now.. but Trump and national secrets .. he opens his mouth and just lets it fly.. it is just mind boggling to think about.. and then to have his top advisor as a former Russian advisor to people.. someone pass the advil.. this is a headache of international proportions

[kairos12]

5. tRump wil be the leader of the 1%--whether American or Russian.

[Peacetrain]

6. Well said...

I did not even put that together..

[ronnie624]

11. +1

And he won't have the slightest idea about what he's looking at, anyway.

[1StrongBlackMan]

28. But his handlers will.

[ronnie624]

30. Yes. n/t

[Jackie Wilson Said]

27. Drumpf steals the election and all life on the planet will cease.

Sounds like an exaggeration, doesnt it.


Problem is, this is the one guy that could make it come true.

[bkkyosemite]

3. Shouldn't this happen when one is elected President and not before.

[Peacetrain]

4. You would think!!

[librechik]

7. same as usual

to be honest, presidents are fairly clueless about what the CIA, NSA,Congressional leadership etc. and their unelected or foreign friends are doing since the forties. If they know, (I'm looking at you, Bush Sr) then they are involved in the crimes directly.

Trump (except for the painful stupidity) wouldn't be any different than who we are since the cold war. Changing it would involve taking the government apart, piece by welded piece. I'm in for that, things are bad enough with our democracy gone. But how?

[Peacetrain]

15. Just the thought of Donald Trump

carrying the secret codes.. chills me to the bone..

[braddy]

8. I hope that a brochure explaining what the nuclear triad is, will be included with the briefing.

[Peacetrain]

16. good point!!

[braddy]

25. "For the new president, if you decide that Total Global Thermonuclear War is needed, please refer to

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this manual, which will walk you through the steps required to launch the Nuclear Triad, and President Trump, all three legs are "the nuclear part"."

[procon]

9. That's a scary thought.

Give Trump’s unfiltered, extemporaneous style of speaking of the cuff, and his predilection for making outrageous claims based on debunked conspiracy theories he finds on the Intertubes, now he's going to have access to national secrets?

He can't control himself. He frequently says that he admires Putin and his wealthy Russian business pals, so
w0hat's to stop him from blurting out some secret report he learned in a classified briefing if he thinks it will boost his ratings on the campaign trail? Trump has often bragged of his close personal relationships with foreign leaders that are decided unfriendly to American interests.

[Peacetrain]

17. That is the first thing that went through my mind...

And now we find out that his number one helper has a history or working with the Russians.. sheesh..

[Hekate]

10. Yep, Manafort's the man who shines up the public image of ruthless despots for a price.

That's been out there for awhile, and hopefully will get more attention now.

[Peacetrain]

18. Integrity for sale..

that is for sure!!

[dmr]

12. Would Trump even pass vetting?

Just because someone gains the position of nominee doesn't mean that person is qualified for a high security clearance. Does the FBI perform even a minor vetting of the candidate, & his/her closet advisors?

I wondered about this when Sarah Palin was John McCain's running mate in '08. Especially since her husband was a member of an Alaskan group wanting to secede from the United States.

Seriously.

When I applied to a federal government position in the VA, they told me I had to be vetted.

My point is I had to be vetted. I passed because I've led a good citizen life.

Yet, there are stories out there that Trump has had dealings with organized crime. If those rumors are out there, wouldn't that warrant vetting? If true, how could he get a security clearance? A super-duper security clearnce, at that.

I'm puzzled and concerned.

[Peacetrain]

19. Oh my gosh.. you are right

I completley forgot about the organized crime stories.. I was so stunned by this one

[braddy]

33. Once President, the president himself is the highest authority on security clearances in America,

he heads the executive branch and makes his own rules.

As far as a nominee, which bureaucrat can cancel a party's candidate and just make null and void the Democrat or Republican presidential candidate?

[TeamPooka]

36. Building things in NYC requires one to be "involved" with organized crime families since they

control all the building unions, the cement business and much more in the city.
You pay them and they let you build.
No pay, no building.

[bettyellen]

43. it took them six months to vet a friend who applied to work at a branch of the Smithsonian.....

[JPZenger]

13. I predict the CIA will be particularly careful about what they say to Trump

I hope and expect that the CIA will be extra careful about what they tell Trump. Secrets are only shared on a "need to know" basis. They will give him enough information so he hopefully gets scared about making thoughtless comments about nuclear weapons, and so he hopefully develops real fear of his buddy Putin.

[Peacetrain]

20. From your lips to God's ears!

He is such a wild card

[TeamPooka]

37. Trump: "What have you heard about ISIS?" CIA Rep: "We've heard of them. Who's asking?" nt

[NoMoreRepugs]

14. this is so far over the heads of Rethug goobers and gomers as to be nonsensical

[Peacetrain]

21. I had to come in and ask if I had heard it right

it was so stunning

[hamsterjill]

23. Obviously over the head of some Democrats, as well.

That's why I will be voting FOR the Democratic nominee.

[FLPanhandle]

22. Good news is that Trump won't be able to understand anything told to him

Nor remember it!

[Peacetrain]

24. ROFL.. if only

My biggest worry is he will blab it out sideways..

[mikehiggins]

29. I have heard him pronounce "nuclear" correctly. That's got to be an improvement

over the last GOPuke president.

[Bucky]

32. That won't stop him from talking about it.

He's a security leak threat. Just cause he'll Twitter out wrong things about national secrets doesn't mean he's not a danger

[thucythucy]

26. Donald Trump = America's Putin.

They are both of them graduates of the Vito Corleone school of politics.

[rockfordfile]

42. Yeah, maybe even worst

[DesertRat]

31. I can't stand CNN or MSNBC anymore

It's all Trump, all the time.

[Petrushka]

34. 4-23-15---> Cash flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians pressed for control of uranium company

The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”

The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

< snip >

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html


Who else has "...this history of working for the Russian oligarchs ..."?

[Lucinda]

38. LINK:

MORE HERE

"Relying largely on research from the conservative author of Clinton Cash, today’s New York Times alleges that donations to the Clinton Foundation coincided with the U.S. government’s 2010 approval of the sale of a company known as Uranium One to the Russian government. Without presenting any direct evidence in support of the claim, the Times story — like the book on which it is based — wrongly suggests that Hillary Clinton’s State Department pushed for the sale’s approval to reward donors who had a financial interest in the deal. Ironically, buried within the story is original reporting that debunks the allegation that then-Secretary Clinton played any role in the review of the sale..."


MUCH more at link above.

[Petrushka]

40. Thank you!

That explains a lot.

[LuvLoogie]

35. Hillary knows more about what is really going on than Trump will ever know.

Trumps briefings will be kept to current operations the Russians are already aware of.

Hillary will only be informed of any changes in status in all that she peviously knew.

[Lucinda]

39. KNR