Best line ever...on Bill Maher tonight

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Dan Savage


" The problem with the Republican Party is their base. They've been cranking up, gathering up every rube, racist, nutjob, sexist, homophobe in the entire country and calling them Republican. And finally, they voted for one of their own."

[scscholar]

1. He's been off for the past few months...

but with that statement, he is back on!

[BillZBubb]

2. Nice line, but they've always voted for one of their own. trump just says it out loud.

[Gore1FL]

5. I think republicans of old knew it was bullshit but played to the audience.

Then the audience started getting seats.

[The Second Stone]

17. Yep. Or as Mom said, I don't want you hanging out with that crowd

it will rub off on you.

[maddiemom]

23. You too?

Isn't that the definitive "Momism?" I'm proud to say I raised mine without ever saying it.

[The Second Stone]

32. I think she was absolutely right about not hanging out with the wrong crowd

but what do I know?

[maddiemom]

34. Mores subtly change with the years.

Being a secondary teacher and dealing with a variety of teenagers for much longer than the average mom, my perspective of the "wrong crowd" was very different from my mom's. There was never any term I hated more than "ladylike." I don't know your age, but I was among the first "baby boomers." My friends in high school and college mostly became responsible, professional adults. They were in no way delinquent, but my mom thought they were mostly "wild."

[The Second Stone]

37. Even as a boy it was obvious to me that kids are heavily influenced by

who their friends are. Particularly with regard to doing things that might get them into trouble when bored.

[maddiemom]

42. I can't argue with you on that point.

MY point was just that different generations have different mores. My (now fortyish) daughter and her friends would be frighteningly promisquous to her grandmother; MY mom who was very, bless her heart, prissy by my standards. My daughter learned from me to bite her tongue around "GranMarie." All my daughter's friends are college-educated professionals and much more trashy in language than my similar friends. The trashy talking that came about from the 'Sixties' was largely a reaction to the stupidity of using language to shock. Words are just words and using them to freak someone else out can actually be amusing. BTW, I'm a PHD equivalency in English/Education (have the credits but didn't write a dissertation) and a reading specialist. I actually have some "Christian" friends and watch my language around them. as well as with children. I don't mean to be sarcastic or flip. My daughter, an only child by chance, rather than choice, was raised to understand and respect the views of others (and with a Montessori background) that's served her well in adult life in public relations. Thanks, "Second Stone" enjoyed the interaction."

[Hortensis]

24. Who knew that kind of wisdom was so rare?

Lay down with dogs...

[madinmaryland]

41. Hey. Watch it with your talk about dogs...

Our dog lays in bed with us every night. I'd rather have a dog in my bed, than a Repubican.

[Gore1FL]

3. Started with the Southern Strategy

This was a small controlled fire they kept letting get a little bigger. Bush added wood. The Tea Party brought gasoline and a coal-powered window fan.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. Do you think anyone could have turned that around? Obama without the obstruction?

Obama without Rush? without Palin? What a sad lost opportunity. What was his approval post-election? Personally, I blame a lot on Palin. She opened a door. I know, bigotry always there - but at least it was suppressed to some degree at that point.

[Cassiopeia]

13. No

Obama has had 7 years of opportunity. He had every chance to speak up for those with the least. He has had 7 years to put on his comfortable shoes and walk with us.

Instead he has chosen the path the moneyed interests desire. The TPP will be his final gift, signed, sealed, and delivered with the help of his closest Republican friends in the Senate.

[maddiemom]

27. Yeah! What'd he ever do with those comfortable shoes?

[Gore1FL]

15. I think it has to play itself out. Nixon Blew on the coals of a very old fire.

In some ways Obama is turning it around by just being there. I see him more as a catalyst. In the same breath, I would say Trump is a catalyst, too. Both are increasing the reaction

The blatant racism, xenophobia, and other loud forms of ignorance have proven to be the toxic product of the reaction. I can't see a continued association between the GOP and the Tea Party. They just don't have a choice anymore.

The GOP knew it had to do something about it's appeal to minorities after the 2012 "autopsy." While the party tried to leave those tools behind, too many people running were unwilling to let them go. Four years later, they find themselves accidentally doubling down on the thing they knew they had to change.

I half suspect to see one of these two things will happen before 2020:
1> The Republicans will terminate their relationship with the Tea Party, Grab some centrist "pro-business" Dems, and move to the left to fill the vacuum the Democrats leave by shifting left themselves.
2> The modern Republican party will cease to exist. The Democratic Party will shift to the right as it absorbs the less crazed GOP members. A liberal party will rise to the Left.

The crazies are going to start losing their voices because they manage to speak too loudly about who they actually are. Maybe I'm just an optimist.

[maddiemom]

28. Wait, What?

I missed when the Democrats shifted to the left.

[Gore1FL]

29. It's not 2020 yet, and that was only one scenario. n/t

[maddiemom]

36. We can always keep our fingers crossed.

[Cosmocat]

35. Neither

In our lives, republicans will NEVER align with democrats.

They have dumbed this country down so fucking far it has been boiled to the simple right and wrong.

And, demcorats/liberals are wrong, as an absolutely absolute, and republicans are right, as an absolute absolute, no matter how wrong, or detached from reality and facts they.

IF, god willing this country is not stupid enough to make a meglomaniac its POTUS, the Rs will just continue to do what the have done the last quarter century plus - lie, cheat, steal to win.

How that looks, who knows, it could be back to where it was pre trump, or it could be that their party takes on his more out and out way of just saying they shit they whistle at normallly.

[Gore1FL]

38. I don't see the modern GOP surviving this. Their brand will be ruined.

There are already Republicans endorsing Clinton and others that refuse to support Trump. There is no way they let this fester for four more years.

[Cosmocat]

43. Their brand is gold

Whatever happens this cycle, they sell fear, hatred, division, the delusion of self superiority over others.

That is the best product to a dull population you can have, proven time after time after time over history.

This place does this, 06, 08, gloating how the republican party is dead, only to be stunned whane they had the biggest lid term washout in decades in 2010.

You are under the delusion these assholes care about integrity or how their party looks.

They could care less.

They will take their lumps (hopefully) this cycle, but will simply do what they do, frankly becasue it works, appeal to the lesser tendencies of people to win electuons.

This would work regardless, but it absolutely WILL continue to work because the democratic party is flat fucking useless.

Given the total lack of any 1) clear positive agenda, and I mean the party has NO agenda, none 2) fight, this party has absolutely no fire, energy, unity, etc, the rs will just dust themselves off and do what they do, spew vile that the witless popultaion of this country laps up.

[Gore1FL]

44. The returns on that strategy are failing now.

It's literally self-defeating. It's a 40-year-old strategy that they admit no longer works or is a good idea. They can't survive as a national party until they change. It is no longer possible to have a viable national party based on hate.

The Democrats cannot keep moving right to accommodate the people they are driving away without becoming more useless, either.

If the GOP want to be the Tea Party and the Democrats want to be the GOP that gives rise to one of the scenarios I listed.

[Cosmocat]

45. We will see

No the returns are not "self defeating" from the standpoint of winning elections, which is all they care about ...

They have a near mortal lock on the House of Representatives, they have power the the majority of states.

They had this election in good shape until Trump showed up.

Minus trump, we would be looking at an R POTUS, R control of both chambers and cointrol of most states starting in 2017.

They are going nowhere.

[Gore1FL]

46. They've lost the culture war. It won't work anymore.

They've lost 5 of the last 6 presidential elections.

[Cosmocat]

47. And still have more power today than ever

in my life, outside of POTUS.

But, again, this is what people do here, WANT them to be dead more than dealing in the sad reality of what the people in the country are - willing dupes to their bullshit.

[Gore1FL]

48. The GOP or the racists have power?

The racists have power in the GOP, to be sure, but it is waning terribly.

Being "dupes for bullshit" describes the Southern Strategy perfectly. It describes the xenophobia, too. What worked as a wedge issue in the last 20th century, however, is not working so well in this second decade of the 21st. Yes, there are still ignorant people that will flock to the message of hate. That set is diminishing in numbers while the people they hate (and their allies) are growing.

The intolerance faction of the GOP is a dead weight anchor for them. It is untenable and unsustainable. They have known it for at least 4 years. They'll either do something about it, or not. If they do something about it the modern GOP will cease to exist. If they don't do something about it the modern GOP will cease to exist.

There may be a party called the Republican Party in 2020. It will not be the GOP of today.

[Jemmons]

19. McCain knew he couldn't win without the "culture war" issues

He would have loved to run with someone like Paul Ryan, but he knew he would have lost.

Fact is that the GOP serves the interest of the few and thus have a "structural problem": Not enough voters.

As this gets worse they will try to fuel support by more and more extreme narratives. Like what we hear from Trump.

[malaise]

20. Perfect

[maddiemom]

25. + at least a dozen.

[Hortensis]

26. The Kochs provided the gas, fan, matches, and

instructions. They and other ultraconservative plutocrats were busy developing nationwide hard-conservative anti-government/anti-regulation/anti-Democrat/pro-business movements from the 1970s on.

[PlanetBev]

4. Haven't watched yet

How vile was Coulter tonight? Hope somebody shut her down.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Her tone/rambling is just too much for the show. You have to be quick

and succinct or others will out-talk you, which is what happened. Actually sensed she is actually thinking...wow, am I the odd one out?

[Pluvious]

33. She became an empty chair

Eventually they were just ignoring her.

The best was the end, during the credit roll.
Watch her, no one talks to her, she just sits there squirming, ignored.

She is a ghoul.

[billhicks76]

7. They Were A Bloodthirsty Audience in 2012 Debates

The things they cheered were unbelievable. They are a party of haters and war criminals.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Being in the business world, still think there is/was a significant

percentage of the Republican party that is socially liberal and fiscally conservative. like - they are not ALL lunatics. This group are the ones who are disowned right now.

[Wounded Bear]

14. Which should lead to support for DLC Dems...

I think there are probably more moderate Repub voters than leaders now, and they're starting to see the light. I kind of hate to see them come over and accelerate the Dems drift to the right, but Trump must be defeated.

[Ilsa]

10. How did Annthrax respond?

And she's confused. She said "the Liberals" are trying to turn the US into a Third World hellhole. She can't see that it's her buddies, like the Koch roaches, doing that.

[demwing]

21. It was her racism showing

She thinks "Third World Hellhole" means more brown people.

[Mira]

11. Heard it. Loved it. Underlined it.

Almost was unable to hear it over Ann Colter's fanatic yammering, but he delivered it with gusto.

[fred v]

12. "Pour Me a Drink, Laura, I'm Comin' Home"

Great line by Dave!

[kimbutgar]

16. I had to replay that line on my dvr it was that good!

[malaise]

18. Nailed it

That's them

[The Second Stone]

22. Trump just says out loud and without hiding or shame all their shameful

racist and bigoted positions and basic assumptions. Well, of course that is going to sound more honest to the rank and file.

What I can't figure about Trump is that he would want to spend 4 years confined and essentially working for others. I get it that he thinks being the President is "classy" or some such, but it's also a hell of a lot of work for which he is ill equipped. I'm convinced he started this for the attention and free publicity, but he's in really deep now.

[world wide wally]

30. I thought the best line of the night was when Savage said,

"When you are born with money, you don't have to know nothing about money"

[niyad]

31. "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it" oooops, pukes, you own this

disgusting mess.

[rtracey]

39. ugggg

Fucking Ann Coulter, whenever Maher has her on, I skip that show....she is such a piece of shit.

[colsohlibgal]

40. Dan Sure Nailed It

Painful episode having to listen to whiny smarmy snotty Ann Coulter. The libertarian guy was like all of them, right about a couple of things but wrong on everything else...kind of like a stopped watch.

I cannot believe enough people are misguided enough to vote for a crackpot reality figure but if I am wrong.... I might well head to that less crazy nation just to the north, been to London, Ontario several times and just maybe.