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This Is white supremacy Folks, Plain & Simple (Original Post) kpete May 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #1
so true. niyad May 2016 #2
It also reminds me of Nazis coming to power before WWII Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #3
Yep, that really unnerves me, a definite reminder. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #51
+1000 heaven05 May 2016 #57
It's scary. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #63
Scary. lark May 2016 #65
the real white supremacy is that trump is given the time of day. unblock May 2016 #4
Trump isn't the problem. He's a symptom of the problem. Major Nikon May 2016 #34
Exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #52
It's the media that's pushing him. Duppers May 2016 #35
It sure is. cali May 2016 #5
That is spot on! Rex May 2016 #6
K&R. nt UtahLib May 2016 #7
Except that their opinion of Hilary Clinton is just as low. Nye Bevan May 2016 #8
That is the programming taking hold. Rex May 2016 #9
So sad, that a large segment of the US can be propagandized with hatred, led by their nose and ever RKP5637 May 2016 #53
That is the part that scares me the most...their pride in their ignorance. Rex May 2016 #71
I'm really now confounded by all of this. When I was young it was all about RKP5637 May 2016 #73
It was when Reagan won the WH, suddenly it was cool to be stupid and cruel. Rex May 2016 #74
Exactly, disaster capitalism, the scourge of earth. And earth's population sits back and RKP5637 May 2016 #78
Yep, long before they "hated Obama because he's black". Also al Gore and Nancy Pelosi. Doctor_J May 2016 #12
I'm embarrased to admit Mr.Bill May 2016 #15
The entire basis for the "Not Hillary" Party baldguy May 2016 #20
Oh bullshit. Progressives don't want her for her policy stances. cui bono May 2016 #46
Half of the DUers who bash Hillary are Trump supporters Democat May 2016 #48
Count me as the half who... chwaliszewski May 2016 #50
Total nonsense EdwardBernays May 2016 #55
Hoards of Trump Supporters who hang around DU and post.. afertal May 2016 #76
You wish. And using the term "bash" doesn't work. Criticism of policy is not bashing. cui bono May 2016 #80
You may be respectful, but not everyone is Democat May 2016 #81
well unfortunately it happens on both sides. cui bono May 2016 #82
Were they the "party of no" when it came to Bill Clinton's agenda? nt ecstatic May 2016 #43
I think "STUPID" works well too world wide wally May 2016 #10
thanks for adding the pic yurbud May 2016 #11
Perfect malaise May 2016 #13
Everything you say is so true but to attribute it all to race just because one is black and the Akicita May 2016 #14
I think it has more to do with ideology than race. AlbertCat May 2016 #17
What's the difference between liberlaism and black liberalism? Akicita May 2016 #21
keep hoping heaven05 May 2016 #60
That's changing. It's less about race all the time. Akicita May 2016 #75
if you say so heaven05 May 2016 #77
There has been a huge sea change in attitudes towards race. Akicita May 2016 #79
great points, yet heaven05 May 2016 #83
Certainly gives 'populism' (thankfully on the right wing version) a bad name. pampango May 2016 #16
Not even remotely oberliner May 2016 #18
EXACTLY! nt 63splitwindow May 2016 #19
Absolutely. MuttLikeMe May 2016 #22
Kicked and recommended! But it's worse than white supremacy. Enthusiast May 2016 #23
I call it fascist white supremacy. liberalnarb May 2016 #25
You nailed it. Fascist white supremacy is the worst kind, lol. Enthusiast May 2016 #38
"Lol" hmm I can't say I find it funny liberalnarb May 2016 #39
I just thought it cute and creative the way you put it. Enthusiast May 2016 #40
Well said! Exactly what it is! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #58
You're right. It's white male Christian supremacy Jack Rabbit May 2016 #27
Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #37
K&R liberalnarb May 2016 #24
Please explain to me why right here people at DU promote Trump over HRC Cary May 2016 #26
Excellent question. Kingofalldems May 2016 #28
The problems with Trump are undeniable and up front. Enthusiast May 2016 #41
They are trolls Democat May 2016 #49
↑↑↑ ! . . . n/t annabanana May 2016 #67
Agree-racism accounts for most of the attacks on President Obama Gothmog May 2016 #29
and don't forget the often used meme mountain grammy May 2016 #30
Of course that is an absurd meme. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that. Enthusiast May 2016 #42
Holy Shit! Soxfan58 May 2016 #31
100% fred v May 2016 #32
So much truth... Feathery Scout May 2016 #33
Agreed rock May 2016 #36
Yes and no. basselope May 2016 #44
Herman Cain. nt LeftyMom May 2016 #45
K&R Photographer May 2016 #47
I disagree. The Republicans refused to view Bill Clinton as a legitimate president as well. Trust Buster May 2016 #54
And George W was legitimate. How ironic. TryLogic May 2016 #59
yep heaven05 May 2016 #56
great post heaven05 May 2016 #61
White supremacy by a sociopath. TryLogic May 2016 #62
Make America Great again = lark May 2016 #66
Yes, it shows who is voting for Trump, who are eal people who are his constituency? lark May 2016 #64
Super on target. zentrum May 2016 #68
This would make a great bumper stickers for our cars if it wasn't so long. classykaren May 2016 #69
I saw a gif of trump on Facebook with a nazi swatiska of hitlers face and it was swinging over trump kimbutgar May 2016 #70
Fueled by the failure of... afertal May 2016 #72
K&R - nt Ohio Joe May 2016 #84

Response to kpete (Original post)

lark

(23,061 posts)
65. Scary.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016


I've been thinking about how much he reminds me of Hitler and his supporters the brown shirts. LOL, at first I typed shits instead of shirts, think I had it more right the first time.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
4. the real white supremacy is that trump is given the time of day.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

the appropriate response from the media would have been to laugh trump off the stage long ago.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
35. It's the media that's pushing him.
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016

He doesn't have to buy promotion time, especially on CNN, because they're covering Trump all the time.

I haven't watched M$NBC in months, so I cannot comment on them.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. Except that their opinion of Hilary Clinton is just as low.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016

And their opinion of Bill was so low that they impeached him.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. That is the programming taking hold.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:01 PM
May 2016

A lot of GOPers are brainwashed into believing outragous shit, like Obama is a Marxist Muslim coming (wait for it, any minute now) fer their guuuuuuuuuunnnzzz!!!!

That is grand delusion on a scale that would have impressed Lenin.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
53. So sad, that a large segment of the US can be propagandized with hatred, led by their nose and ever
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:35 AM
May 2016

so proud of their ignorance.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
73. I'm really now confounded by all of this. When I was young it was all about
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

education and also being politically alert. In my HS graduating class about 80% of us went on to some type of additional education, be it college, technical, secretarial, etc., etc. None, were proud of their ignorance. Today, for many, it seems a badge of honor. The US IMO is in a significant decline reaching far further than even just the elections.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
74. It was when Reagan won the WH, suddenly it was cool to be stupid and cruel.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

Also it was awesome if you became rich off the backs of millions. Greed became good and we started our decline into the abyssal market that relies on disaster capitalism to work.

Really, we let a tiny but extremely powerful and well connected group of people send not just America, but the world into some hellish free market system where only the strongest survive - IOW monetary anarchy.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
78. Exactly, disaster capitalism, the scourge of earth. And earth's population sits back and
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:09 PM
May 2016

allows a minority group in the big picture to destroy the lives and financial well being of millions. I've often said earth needs an intergalactic visit of some type to prevent the population becoming extinct by their own doing.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
12. Yep, long before they "hated Obama because he's black". Also al Gore and Nancy Pelosi.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016

Their view of right and wrong, good and bad is completely partisan, thanks to hate radio.

Mr.Bill

(24,236 posts)
15. I'm embarrased to admit
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:15 PM
May 2016

that all though I technically knew the following, I hadn't gave it much thought until she pointed out it's signifigance to me:

Black men were allowed to vote before any women in the US. And a black man was president before any woman in the US.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
46. Oh bullshit. Progressives don't want her for her policy stances.
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:05 AM
May 2016

Her unlikeability is not due to some vast right wing conspiracy.

She's a corporate hawk and no progressive in their right mind wants her to be POTUS.

.

 

afertal

(148 posts)
76. Hoards of Trump Supporters who hang around DU and post..
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

...nasty things about Hillary. Wow! That's really difficult to envision, but if I try it's very nightmare.ish.

I suggest you try to relax.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
80. You wish. And using the term "bash" doesn't work. Criticism of policy is not bashing.
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

The fact is Hillary is a moderate Republican as defined by her policy stances. All of DU should be supporting Sanders over her if they were traditional Dems and not triangulating Third Way Dems.

.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
81. You may be respectful, but not everyone is
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:07 AM
May 2016

How many times have we seen DU users posting right wing memes like "Shillary"? That's not criticism, it's name calling and bashing.

I am happy to support either Sanders or Clinton in the general, but I don't come to DU to see either Democrat bashed by trolls.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
82. well unfortunately it happens on both sides.
Mon May 9, 2016, 06:41 PM
May 2016

And sadly the term Bernie Bro is used against not the candidate himself, but against fellow DUers. Not sure how one is supposed to have a discussion with someone who uses or condones that term.

And saying they support trump just because they don't like Hillary doesn't help at all, and would be considered "bashing" Bernie supporters.

.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
14. Everything you say is so true but to attribute it all to race just because one is black and the
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

other is white is stereotyping. Many if not most of Trump's supporters would be fine with Ben Carson too. And many if not most of Trump's supporters would be just as much against Hillary or Bernie as they are against Obama.

I think it has more to do with ideology than race. At least I hope so.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
17. I think it has more to do with ideology than race.
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:30 PM
May 2016

Yes... in a way.... it's really both.

Because the "feel" and the actual incidents toward Obama are racially charged and get more energy from that I think. Liberalism is a "danger" to be watched and kept in check. But BLACK liberalism is a huge danger.... a greater danger.... one that seriously might require "2nd amendment solutions".

No the racial element changes the hatred. It vamps it up and gives it a visible danger (dark skin) as opposed to just a difference in ideas. And so called "pragmatic Dem" candidates can use race against Obama too.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
60. keep hoping
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:27 AM
May 2016

in this country whether in the open like now or the so called, when there were plenty of good paying jobs, 'good times' as they were, it has ALWAYS been about race.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
75. That's changing. It's less about race all the time.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

You would have to be blind not to see that progress is being made.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
77. if you say so
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016

progress is relative to those viewing, participating and dying for and because of "progress". Too many still dying ONLY because of the color of ones skin. I keep hoping also. Been hoping for a free, equal society for generations. Votes still taken away from POC, and for a majority many are still marginalized in housing, jobs, education and opportunity based on skin color. The last 7+ years of living in this system of governance has taken the blinders off, completely. I had hope, I have none nor illusion of hope anymore.

But don't get me wrong I am hoping your hope is well founded.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
79. There has been a huge sea change in attitudes towards race.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

I remember back in the early 1970's when a lot of people, maybe most, thought that a black QB could not succeed in the NFL because they just didn't have the intellectual capacity. And now we have a black President. Even the rethugs have had two black Secretaries of State. That's huge progress.

Look at the huge increase in inter-racial dating and marriages and the lack of stigma attached to it compared to any other time in our history. That's huge progress.

To address your points specifically:

Are too many people dying only because of the color of their skin? I assume you mean at the hands of someone of a different skin color. Yes, but less so than there used to be. And unjust killings of POC by police get much more attention these days thanks to activists. Even Chicago is finding out that murders by police can no longer just be swept under the rug without repercussions. The judicial system is more fair to POC. Although far from perfect and still rife with problems, it is much better than it used to be. Progress has been made. Our last two Attorney Generals are black.

Blacks still have some problems voting, but it is much easier for blacks to vote than it used to be. Much progress on voting rights has been made.

Are people still marginalized in housing, jobs, education and opportunity based on skin color. Yes, but most of that is now illegal and we now have government agencies tasked with preventing discrimination in those areas. In fact, we now have discrimination in favor of POC through affirmative action programs. All of that is real progress and it is helping.

We are still a long, long way from the ultimate goal of a color blind society and we are not changing fast enough. But we are changing for the better. There are still many racists in this country. But there are a lot fewer than there used to be. Most people now realize that people are just people. Those who are so ideologically driven on race issues that they believe that things have either not changed or gotten worse are blinding themselves. I don't think that is good because it can breed further hopelessness, resentment and hate. Instead, I think it would be better to recognize that much progress has been made but that much more work needs to be done to reach the goal of a colorblind society. We are still a long way from accomplishing that goal but lets all work together to get the job done.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
83. great points, yet
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 12, 2016, 09:29 AM - Edit history (1)

I feel idealistically driven. I agree with every point presented by you and I applaud your ability to see the silver lining of an ever darkening cloud. This quest for equality, in all areas of inequality, sex, race, gender identity has gotten more involved instead of lessening in its intensity and problematic hate. Trumps popularity attests to this fact of widespread hate of others not white and male/female.

Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, Stokely Carmichael, Angela Davis, George Jackson et al. all fought and many are still fighting for the same equality demanded by all people in which inequality is still a daily occurence. The murder of POC by those sworn to serve and protect being foremost in my mind. As an arbitrary starting point I will use Michael Brown. Yes his murder was widely covered in our mass media. Yet his murderer is free today and richer by thousands of dollars given to him by an adoring public. Sandra Bland died under very mysterious circumstances in a jail cell where all preventive measures against suicide are supposed to be taken. No one was prosecuted for this death of a POC with a career in front of her and all of her life. All murder victims who were killed by racists in between say Michael Brown, both known and unknown, and Sandra Bland number in the hundreds. Those are numbers I grew up with in my coming of age period in the 50's and 60's. I will say no more on that, the facts speaks volumes.

Voting rights? Sure many POC have the right and duty to exercise that right. Yet, this country, especially with the electronic voting apparatus used in many places
today is subject to corruption on a massive scale especially in urban areas. The not so urban areas are taking voting rights away from THOUSANDS, many are poor, uneducated and POC. This through local 'laws' and regulations that have replaced the 'tests' that needed to be passed before voting in my younger days. No, I feel we are going back to the good old days and this upcoming election, I think, will prove my point.

You are correct on interacial dating and marriage, as long as it takes place in an urban setting away from places that still maintain a racially undiverse and segregated population of which there are still many, many nationwide.

Everytime I see a biracial child my joy is present in the sense that their presence belies the hate and supremacists ideology. These biracial human beings are a hope and a testament to progress. Yet a hope still in transition from hopelessness of my childhood. I was born of biracial parents in 1948, growing up in this country was hell, even in the military of which type of family I grew up in.

Sports? That's all money. The sea change there has been profit driven and nothing else. When the owners finally let go of their stupidity and admitted a POC could be just as effective a leader as anyone else. They started making real money. They can never kill that 'golden goose' because their profits would dry up. No real world solution there. Sea change? All money driven.

Military? When the PTB realized how stupid they were in not using their human assets to their fullest, even unto death, yes their was a huge sea change, Colin Powell a prime example. POC represented huge man/woman power levels of ability to wage war. Any fool would have realized that sooner or later.

A lot of people have changed their attitudes about diversity, true. Trump crowds and his possible ascension to POTUS as a proudly claimed racist and fascist lets me know, we still have a hell of a long way to go in achieving, if ever, total equality for ALL americans.

Your hope is my hope, I must say though, I fear when you reach my age you will still be hoping for your dream of equality for all americans to become reality.

I do thank you for sharing your observations on our human condtion currently.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
16. Certainly gives 'populism' (thankfully on the right wing version) a bad name.
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:27 PM
May 2016

Populism starts to sound like some other really bad -ism's when it is employed by a demagogue like Trump.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Not even remotely
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:33 PM
May 2016

That is definitely not what white supremacism is.

Trump says the same crap about everyone he doesn't like, regardless of race.

Literally nothing in that tweet has anything to do with racism.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
27. You're right. It's white male Christian supremacy
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

Even though Trump is about as religious as my cat, Swashbuckler.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
26. Please explain to me why right here people at DU promote Trump over HRC
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

I don't get it.

I will probably get hidden too.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
30. and don't forget the often used meme
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:28 PM
May 2016

that, somehow, our first African American president has "made race relations worse."

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
42. Of course that is an absurd meme. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that.
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

He has been nothing but a target of racism. One time a redneck told me, "I don't mind ni**ers if they know their place." He said this as if it was the most reasonable thing in the world.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
44. Yes and no.
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:38 AM
May 2016

The vitriol they have thrown at Obama is over the top, outrageous and OBVIOUSLY racist.

However, the white people in the GOP do not have a stranglehold on stupid. Dr. Ben Carson said some completely moronic things, as did the guy from 2012 (Pizza guy.. don't remember his name) and they cheered them on.

Yes, Trump is followed by a bunch of racists and HE is obviously racist, but the GOP has always supported stupid racist idiots, even when they happen to be PoC... so it is more stupidity than supremacy.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
54. I disagree. The Republicans refused to view Bill Clinton as a legitimate president as well.
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:35 AM
May 2016

They will refuse to view Hillary Clinton as a legitimate president. It's what they do. The President's ethnicity was just a convenient avenue of attack. I believe, had Obama been white, they would still have viewed him as illegitimate.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
59. And George W was legitimate. How ironic.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:24 AM
May 2016

Republicans should be called the anti-democracy party. Unfortunately, the Democratic party has become a close second. Why? Corporate money and big-money money. Bernie's movement must endure.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
56. yep
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:18 AM
May 2016

plain and simple.....and obvious. America today....21st century...... given the history and stubborn continuance of this ideology, not surprising.

TryLogic

(1,722 posts)
62. White supremacy by a sociopath.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016

"Make America Great Again" = Make America White Again (for racists).

"Make America Great Again" = Kill or otherwise discriminate against LGBT persons (for right wing Christians).

"Make America Great Again" = (fill in the blank - based on hate and fear)

lark

(23,061 posts)
64. Yes, it shows who is voting for Trump, who are eal people who are his constituency?
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:25 AM
May 2016

Racists and low information voters.

kimbutgar

(21,054 posts)
70. I saw a gif of trump on Facebook with a nazi swatiska of hitlers face and it was swinging over trump
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

So scary and chilling. The same expression. I wish I knew how to post it here.

 

afertal

(148 posts)
72. Fueled by the failure of...
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:57 PM
May 2016

our educational system. It wouldn't be happening if it weren't for the intentional dumbing down of the populace, and their desire for a personality to wave a magic wand and solve their issues for them.

Sadly, this same fuel is feeding a significant percentage of those who expect Mother Clinton to show the path forward...

A village is not enough, it takes an active, informed, educated populace to make change. It's easy to be follower.

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