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basselope

(2,565 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:32 PM May 2016

It's like the entire media is blinded...

They keep talking about the GOP 24 hour implosion. They look at Paul Ryan like his endorsement is something that will matter.

It's like they have all been asleep for the last 8 months and have no comprehension of what Trump is doing or how it is happening.

Let's start with some realities that they don't understand. The VAST majority of people disapprove of congress and the establishment. The reason they keep voting for the people is because they feel they don't have a choice. They are given (sometimes) a D and a R and (let's just talk about republicans here) they vote for the R just because.. but when they look at what congress is doing/not doing, what their priorities are.. they get frustrated and angry.

SO I read headlines today OMG, Trump attacked Lindsay Graham, and see comments from people like "now south carolina may be in play." No, it isn't.

Paul Ryan thinks he has power over Trump... but it is exactly the opposite.

Worse, the democratic party appears to be taking the bait, as I read stories of how they are going after moderate republicans.. those "disenfranchised" by Trump. That couldn't possibly backfire.

This isn't about D vs R anymore. In both parties people who were from outside the party came into the primaries and wreaked such havoc that it SHOULD have shown anyone paying attention what was going on. On the GOP side, "the establishment" was so fractured that it allowed Trump to get early wins and "the establishment" never recovered b/c all of their candidates left and for some reason they refused to even get behind Kasich (who was the one person who ACTUALLY could have beaten Trump if they backed him early). On the Dem side it was a very simple "establishment" vs "anti-establishment" and it has been fought to a near tie. If there more establishment candidates "anti-establishment" probably would have won b/c establishment (like the GOP) would have been fractured.

This election in November isn't going to be about D v R. It is going to be about establishment vs anti-establishment. Trump is framing and controlling that debate and for some reason no one is paying attention.

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It's like the entire media is blinded... (Original Post) basselope May 2016 OP
RIGHT, elleng May 2016 #1
They COULD get away with it, but that candidate would have to understand the new paradigm. basselope May 2016 #3
Exactly, that is not what is happening. elleng May 2016 #4
The least hated by the most people will win. trof May 2016 #5
I've seen a quote bandied around today that makes me a bit nervous. Shandris May 2016 #6
The hatred for Hill amongst repugs is deep and visceral. trof May 2016 #10
The media is owned by corporations that Phlem May 2016 #2
our. media. is. dead. spanone May 2016 #7
I wrote something very similar in December nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #8
You did n/t malaise May 2016 #9
It's been so for ages malaise May 2016 #11
 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
3. They COULD get away with it, but that candidate would have to understand the new paradigm.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:52 PM
May 2016

But, that is not what is happening. They are playing right into Trump's tiny little hands.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
6. I've seen a quote bandied around today that makes me a bit nervous.
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

Not sure where it's from but I saw it from three different people (ostensibly) which means its likely a talking point.

"Trump has to convince people he's not Hitler, but Hillary has to convince people she isn't Hillary."

Seems a bit over-confident, but damn if it doesn't also ring somewhat true to me as a Hoosier. I've never seen such vile hatred of a candidate in my life and I don't mean Trumpkin.

trof

(54,256 posts)
10. The hatred for Hill amongst repugs is deep and visceral.
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016

Also seen this: "Never have two more unpopular (hated/disliked) politicians been matched up for the presidency of the United States."
No matter who
I'll vote blue.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
2. The media is owned by corporations that
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

control what you see and manipulate opinion to maximize profits.

There is no morality when it involves profits.

Example: No bankers arrested for the economic meltdown.

Letting Corporations run the show has never been and will never be a good thing for the people of this country.

malaise

(268,715 posts)
11. It's been so for ages
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:41 PM
May 2016

Technology has made it easy for us to access other information and the truth - the myths have been shattered.
The corporate media speak for their bosses.

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