fuck this guy: Trump Slams Hillary Clinton as 'Nasty, Mean Enabler' of Husband's Affairs

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EUGENE, Ore. — An unrestrained Donald Trump called Hillary Clinton an "unbelievably nasty, mean enabler" who "destroyed" the lives of her husband's mistresses during a rally in Oregon on Friday night.

The comments, made during an evening rally in Eugene, Ore., marked the sharpest tone he's taken against the Democratic frontrunner since becoming his party's presumptive nominee, and the first time he's been so direct in referencing Bill Clinton's affairs in months.

"She's been the total enabler. She would go after these women and destroy their lives," Trump said. "She was an unbelievably nasty, mean enabler, and what she did to a lot of those women is disgraceful."

His comments came as part of a defense against recent attacks from Democrats focused on his controversial comments and stances on women's issues. Trump told the crowd "nobody respects women more than me," but in contrast, "nobody in this country, and maybe in the history of the country politically, was worse than Bill Clinton with women."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-slams-hillary-clinton-nasty-mean-enabler-husband-s-affairs-n569791

[mooseprime]

1. Considering who it is,

I bet he's just getting warmed up. This plus the hammering nonstop on guns and other stuff he's going to make up, holy moly.

[L. Coyote]

79. Is his Alzheimer's undiagnosed? Or are we just being kept in the dark?

[Jeffersons Ghost]

111. The Trump diagnosis is Narcissistic Personalty Disorder

His tendency to provoke or seek conflict and then resort to law enforcement, lawsuits or bankruptcy are one of the symptoms.

[BillZBubb]

2. Is there not some truth to this? Hillary certainly never took those women's side.

Did you not expect trump to use this information? She's attacked him for misogyny, he's going to retaliate. It's politics.

[pnwmom]

4. No humiliated, betrayed wife is required to publicly take the side of her husband's accusers.

I'm sure she let him have it in private, however.

And Donald Trump was accused of rape in a 1997 lawsuit. So he's treading on thin ice.

[Gman]

15. I remember the video of Bill, Hillary and Chelsea walking to the helicopter

Hillary and Chelsea walked in front, close to each other. Bill trailed behind. The picture spoke volumes about the tension.

[DesertFlower]

61. hillary said the only person who wanted to be

near bill was the dog.

[moriah]

23. I didn't know that...

... it makes my response to someone's comments when I shared out Samantha Bee's taco bowl selfie more ironic than intended -- he asked if Samantha was saying not one illegal immigrant ever raped anybody, and my response was "And I could invoke Roman Polanski to say evey rich egotistical celebrity is a rapist, but that's not going to fly as an attack on Trump."

Woo-howdy!

[pnwmom]

31. She didn't smear anyone. She just said she believed her husband ---

until he acknowledged his relations with Monica.

She never said anything publicly about Monica or anyone else.

[skylucy]

106. Best post! Thank you pnwmom! I am old enough (and enough of a news/political junkie) to remember

all that happened during that time. That is exactly the way it was. Hillary was the epitome of dignity and class in the face of the storm of news coverage and Republican hypocrites all piling on. Her "approval" rating among the American public went way up because of the strength and class she demonstrated. It was obvious to EVERYONE at the time that Hillary had done nothing wrong. Unbelievable that Trump's complete lies about this are getting trotted out on a Democratic website. Gonna take a while to clear away the stench around here after the primary season ends. HILLARY 2016

[pnwmom]

107. That's the difference, skylucy. Some of us are old enough to remember that whole

Les Miserables story, with Kenneth Starr playing the part of Inspector what's-his-name. It was an incredible thing to go through, but it seems like most of the details have just faded into history.

[hatrack]

109. Inspector Cornpone W. Javert . . .

So now we know what the 2016 election is going to be all about - some 20-year-old blowjobs.

Great. Can't wait.

[malaise]

38. Unless the husband's name is

Bill Cosby

[pnwmom]

48. Who is asking her to do anything? nt

[awoke_in_2003]

97. Yep

I am a Sanders supporter, but the fact that people keep bringing up this affair disgusts me.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. lol.

yeah it's her fault her husband cheated and someone knew he was married and had sex with him anyway.

[pnwmom]

16. +1

[BillZBubb]

68. That's not the issue and you know it or you've got your head buried in sand.

Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick, and, yes, Paula Jones all made claims that had nothing to do with consensual sex.

The Willey and Jones incidents are bad, but at least after a disgusting pass attempt, Clinton dropped it. What they didn't deserve was to be labeled "trailer trash" by Clinton surrogates and supporters.

Juanita Broaddrick's story is sickening to hear. I believe her as I do most women who come forward with this type of allegation. She was a loyal Democrat. Something very bad was done to her by Bill Clinton. Deny it all you want, but Hillary enabled Bill's predatory behavior.

[Gman]

91. They didn't deserve to be labeled trailer trash

Yeah they did. They were looking for money and they were paid well by the right wing. Yes, conservatives paid all of them.

[ViseGrip]

77. Had sex with him? Last I checked, it took two!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

82. Yes, it did. Bill and Monica are both responsible for the sex

Not Hillary.

Nor does she have to excuse either of their behavior

[egalitegirl]

85. Sexual harassment is not about sex but about power

Bill and Hillary Clinton were in positions of power. The women he harassed were not. Remember that sexual harassment is about power and not just sex.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

101. assuming there was sexual harassment, it was still on Bill not on her.

and none of the allegations so far have had much merit.

[egalitegirl]

105. Nothing left to assume

If you have worked in any job and have seen the huge posters in the break room, you would immediately recognize it as sexual harassment on the part of Bill Clinton. Why do we have to argue and exonerate politicians of every single wrongdoing as though we are their minions whose job is to ensure they have a good image? Can't we accept reality?

[Sunlei]

30. define Enabler. Trump said, 'groupies' & his womanizing are Her fault.

Mrs. Clinton doesn't have to ever 'take the side' of the groupies or her husbands behavior.

Mr. Trump just made a typical abusers statement, he may as well have said, "if you weren't such a mean bitch I wouldn't have beat you" or "If you weren't so nasty, I wouldn't 'need' other woman"

[malaise]

40. It's always the woman's fault

unless your name is Dennis Hastert or whatthefuckever Sandusky.

[Sunlei]

72. yup. Trump probably told his first two wives it was "their fault" he divorced them & found a,

'newer' woman in Russia.

[Squinch]

37. We'll put you down as one who thinks it's appropriate to blame the wife if the husband strays, then.

Anything else you want to add to that profile? You going to punish women who have abortions too?

I often wish the asses would not show themselves so clearly when I read DU.

[BillZBubb]

69. I'm not blaming Hillary for Bill's actions. I blame her in part for the attacks on the women.

The asses are the ones who have no trouble supporting the sliming of the women who were Bill's victims. And make no mistake about it, Hillary was in on that sliming.

[Squinch]

71. Hillary was not nice to the women her husband was sleeping with? Well, horrors!

[BillZBubb]

80. What an ignorant or disingenuous comment. "not nice" indeed.

Her husband was doing more than "sleeping" with them. He was, at a minimum, sexually harassing them and in one case, at least, raping them.

Hillary had no business calling any of them a "loony narcissist" or "trailer trash". She was in on the whole Clinton apparatus attempt to smear every one of them.

That's why it's not surprising she's got slime master Brock (who called Anita Hill "a little bit slutty and a little bit nutty&quot running her propaganda machine. She has no problem with people who attack women if it suits Clinton aims.

Attacking these women in the way the Clintons did is the real sign of an asshole. So is supporting it.

[Sunlei]

73. You'd be all kisses & love to your wifes 'lovers', even if he saved her panties? & told his friends

all about her?

[BillZBubb]

83. Another totally disingenous or ignorant comment.

Lewinsky isn't the only woman Clinton was "involved with".

Read about Juanita Broaddrick, then get back to me. If that doesn't disgust you, you have sold your moral values for partisan fanaticism.

[Sunlei]

88. He was a womanizer, a 'character' problem a lot of men have.

[BillZBubb]

90. You made no comment about Juanita Broadderick. I wonder why?

[Sunlei]

93. I don't even know who she is, what year or any details.

[BillZBubb]

95. Well, that explains a lot. I'm not surprised, most Clinton supporters don't want to know.

[Sunlei]

102. I 'like' them both, wish Sanders & Clinton would team up.

You'd learn to accept the Yin & Yang Dream Team.

[a la izquierda]

66. Wait, what?

This is a ridiculous assumption, that HRC should have done/said something in support of those women. Give me a break. I'm not the biggest supporter of the Clinton family, but that is some bullshit right there.

[BillZBubb]

67. Not support the women, but not denigrate them either.

She knew what Bill was doing. So, I get not supporting the women, she's Bill's wife.

But what is inexcusable is implying they are "trailer trash" or "loony narcissists". She knew the essentials of their claims were true.

And don't forget, her chief propagandist called Anita Hill "a little bit slutty and a little bit nutty". Yet she has no problem employing that asshole.

[Sunlei]

86. I won't 'imply' like you *assumed* Mrs. Clinton did. They were trashy, loose woman.

Not Anita Hill, she was truthful. Mrs. Hill was harassed by Justice Clarence Thomas, hardly anyone believed her.

Not even Mrs. Thomas 'believed' Mrs. Hill. About 2 years ago Mrs. Thomas phoned Anita Hill and Yelled at her. Mrs. Thomas is a Republican Super delegate this election.

[BillZBubb]

96. You are really one sick person. You are purposefully ignorant and without morals.

There was nothing trashing about Ms. Willey, Ms. Broaddrick or even Ms. Jones. In fact Willey and Broaddrick were both long time, dedicated Democratic activists.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Sunlei]

104. You're the one who stated "she knew" and added action* to whatever she said about the loose woman.

*"implying".

Really none of our business -Mrs. Clintons personal life with her husband. Obviously doesn't affect her work.

[hatrack]

110. Please provide citations of Hillary Clinton referring to the women in question as you describe

Proven, verifiable evidence that she said what you say she did when she did.

We'll wait.

Otherwise, STFU.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. So if some guy makes me a cuckold I am supposed to take his side?

[Peregrine Took]

89. Very true. n/t

[pnwmom]

3. Bill Clinton wasn't the worst. He was merely the first to be exposed publicly for it.

The TV show Mad Men could have been set in almost any industry including politics. Sexual harassment was common and almost expected.

Anita Hill tried to come forward and we all saw what happened -- Clarence Thomas was supported by the other men and he got confirmed.

But then, several years later, Monica befriended an older woman with a tape recorder and the rest is history.

I'm not excusing Bill's behavior. I'm saying it wasn't particularly unusual or extreme for the era. What was unusual was that it wasn't swept under the carpet.

For the record, Monica said their relations were consensual. Two of the women said he harassed them. And a third denied in a sworn affadavit that he assaulted her, but years later came forward with a new story.

Hillary stayed with her husband and believed in his innocence till proven wrong. It was a humiliating experience for her but she wasn't the person who did wrong to these women -- that was Bill.

[davidn3600]

12. I think the bigger issue is how feminism turned their back on those women

Feminists stood behind Anita Hill, because it was against a very conservative Judicial nominee. But then these same feminists turned their cheeks on Bill's behavior.

And I'm not even going to talk about Monica (which seems to have been consensual). The problem is Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Gennifer Flowers, Juanita Broaddrick, etc. It was a pattern of accusers. Where were the feminists? Why didnt they defend those women?

If Bill was a Republican president, he'd be skewered. We all know it. Let's not play stupid here. National Organization for Women would be marching and demanding resignations. So why did NOW and feminists like Gloria Steinem protect Bill? Bill resigning wouldn't really help the Republicans much. Al Gore would have become President and may have even been good enough to pull out a clear-cut victory in 2000.

Feminists sold their soul to get this potential female President. You better hope she was worth it.

[840high]

13. .that^

[pnwmom]

14. Gennifer Flowers claimed she had a 12 year consensual relationship with him.

Why should a feminist get upset about that?

All the other women came with Republican handlers, and both Paula Jones and Kathleen Wiley's stories had problems. Juanita Broaddrick said under oath that she hadn't been assaulted. Years later, she changed her story.

And you're ignoring the fact that men had been behaving this way for EONS, including men at the highest levels of politics, without consequences. We had just seen it happen with Anita Hill.

So it looked awfully hypocritical for the Republicans to suddenly be shocked and horrified. Where was there shock and horror with Anita Hill?

Bill Clinton had been right on many women's issues that the Rethugs fought against. Feminists didn't want to lose the gains we had made under his administration for what had been wrong -- but very common -- masculine behavior. That just a few years earlier the Rethugs had been all too eager to overlook. And we couldn't even be certain of what happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Willey

The Final Report of the U.S. Office of the Independent Counsel report noted that "Willey and President Clinton are the only direct witnesses to their meeting, and their accounts differ substantially on the crucial facts of what occurred." It also stated "Willey gave false information to the FBI about her sexual relationship with a former boyfriend, and acknowledged having lied about it when the agents confronted her with contradictory evidence. Following Willey's acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard."[5] According to Independent Counsel Robert Ray's report, "Willey's [Paula] Jones deposition testimony differed from her grand jury testimony on material aspects of the alleged incident."[6]

According to a book critical of Clinton by Candice E. Jackson, Tripp told Larry King in February 1999 that Willey is "an honest person" who was "telling the truth" about having been sexually assaulted by Clinton.[7] However, Tripp's grand jury testimony differs from Willey's claims regarding inappropriate sexual advances.[8]

Willey has a history of controversial claims including telling the FBI she was pregnant and she had a miscarriage when she did not.[9] On the evening of March 19, 1998, Julie Hiatt Steele, a friend of Willey, released an affidavit, accusing the former White House aide of asking her to lie to corroborate Ms. Willey's account of being sexually groped by President Clinton in the Oval Office.[10] An attempt by Kenneth Starr to prosecute Steele for making false statements and obstructing justice ended in a mistrial and Starr declined to seek a retrial after Steele sought an investigation against the former Independent Counsel for prosecutorial misconduct.[11]

[Boomerproud]

17. I was as angry as anyone about Lewinsky, but thanks for setting some facts straight

regarding the other allegations.

[riderinthestorm]

62. It used to be that we believed women who said they'd been sexually harassed or assaulted

I'm beyond frustrated that anyone has to contort themselves (again!) defending Bill Clinton's notoriously bad behavior with women.

I refuse to ever give him the benefit of the doubt and I'm sure I'm not the only woman uncomfortable with the thought of Bill Clinton back in the White House knowing his record with female subordinates.

[Squinch]

39. So now feminists are responsible for Bill's sex life. You are always so funny!

[maryellen99]

5. He also insinuated that Hillary has committed DV against Bill.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/trump-attacks-clintons-bad-temperament-and-says-her-husband-learned-that-a-few-times/

[HereSince1628]

57. Trump is trying out a new lure. He's a marketeer making his way playing to people's human nature

This is obviously another run at the Anita Broderick and the old story of the WH Oriental vase throwing.

If it works a bit he'll keep up the bait-casting until the reward to effort ratio becomes unfavorable.

How will he know if it works?

Clinton supporters will spend a lot of time thrashing against the pull of the line.

[radical noodle]

6. This won't help him with most women

There are too many women in this country whose husbands have cheated on them who don't like the idea of blaming the wife for any of it. Wives in this situation have a right to be pissed at the husband AND at the "other woman" if it was consensual.

I think there's also an old saying that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The Donald is in one helluva big glass house.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. +1. i dont blame monica lewinsky but lets not pretend that hillary has no reason to be angry w. her

the rest of us dont have that right, but both hillary and chelsea do.

[Squinch]

42. The assertions in this thread that Hillary and the feminists should have marched to support

Bill's sex partners (how does one march to support them? What exactly does one say when one is marching?) is possibly the funniest thing I have ever seen on DU.

[chowder66]

9. Trump is the personification of nasty commenters on the net.

He probably found a post with someone saying those exact words and recorded the "approvals" of the comments and used it in his rhetoric. It sure as hell wouldn't surprise me if I was right.

He just spews the hateful crap day after day and there are people out there that feed off of that. What sad, hateful lives they must all live.

[Kip Humphrey]

10. I know, I know, she's been vetted...

[ecstatic]

11. This will only help Hillary. These lines of attacks are so incredibly asinine!

Um, i don't know if Hillary went after any women or not... But if she did, it's common and natural for people to stick up for their family members. Unfortunately, the family members aren't always truthful; then again, not all accusers are telling the truth.

[pnwmom]

18. She just said she believed her husband, until he admitted having oral sex with Lewinsky.

And Hillary never said anything in public against Monica.

[Squinch]

44. Were you in the dark about the fact that Bill has sexual accusations against him?

This is nothing new. Everyone knows this, and Hillary has STILL outperformed BS in the primaries.

So yes, she has been vetted.

Did you think Drumpf wouldn't be saying this and worse about BS?

[Arugula Latte]

19. Awww, too bad. Trouble in paradise.

[Initech]

20. And he's a nasty, mean enabler of white supremacists.

[BlueMTexpat]

22. Ding, ding, ding!

And just about every other vile segment of society!

[basselope]

21. Its going to get A LOT worse.

Very simply, Trump's goal is to go as negative as possible to depress turnout, b/c negative campaigning ALWAYS depresses turnout.

The lower the turnout, the easier it becomes for him to win.

[pnwmom]

24. This election will be like no other, so "always" doesn't apply.

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Nasty, vicious, personal attacks on the first woman ever to run for President from a major party will cause a huge turnout of women voters.

You will see.

[pnwmom]

29. That IS something to go by. Women dislike Trump, even in his own party.

Women Democrats like Hillary much more than women Dems like Trump. But likability isn't everything. Research has shown that the same qualities people want to see in a Presidential candidate -- e.g., strength -- make women (but not men) less likable.

That doesn't stop women from voting for other women. But it's not because of their likability -- it's because of their perceived competence.

Look at the national polls or at the exit polls; in both there is a gender gap, with women voters much more likely than men to vote for Hillary. And since women are also more likely than men simply to turnout, Hillary is on the better side of the gender gap.

[w4rma]

34. Polls say that Trump is hated by women and Clinton is a bit less hated by men.

Sanders is liked by all genders, and would be winning in a landslide if black voters hadn't been so unreciprocatedly loyal to Clinton's name.

[riderinthestorm]

64. Trump has consistently gotten 30% (and higher) of the female Republican vote

And that is now, during his most misogynistic.

Do you really believe Ted Cruz’s proportion of hard core conservative female voters (Cruz typically got 60%) will bolt the Republican Party and vote for Hillary Clinton?

I dont.

Kasich's female voters might but there's just not enough of them to be statistically significant.

And that's not even counting the Republicans, male and female, who will crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary regardless of who the Republican candidate is.

[Squinch]

45. This is not borne out by the polls. It simply isn't true. Women do prefer Hillary, and women

ARE pissed at Drumpf. Republican women included.

And haven't we learned that rallies do not equal votes yet?

[UtahJosh]

46. What makes you assume that most women like Hillary? nt

[Squinch]

49. Polls.

[pnwmom]

92. They don't have to "like" her to think she's smart, sane, and liberal, and the best option we have.

But I like her and so do my friends.

[basselope]

87. No, it won't.

I, unfortunately, know a couple of insiders who told me where this is going.

It's going to get VERY ugly and it will not help with turnout.

[TeamPooka]

25. says the man on his 3rd wife for a reason. nt

[phylny]

100. You win everything with this comment! n/t

[Democat]

33. Hard to tell a Trump quote from a DU post these days

Any insult against Clinton that Trump can make, someone on DU can make worse.

[Freddie]

35. The guy who replaced his trophy wife with a younger model 2x?

That paragon of marital virtue?
Please proceed, sir.

[JustAnotherGen]

36. He doesn't understand women

That marry for love, partnership, and a two person clique. Bill is her "person" - She's Bill's "person". Good, Bad, indifferent some people see their marriages as serving a higher purpose.

He only has had women that married him for his money. He really shouldn't be casting stones when those three earned their money so well. Even now the first one gets paid to be his pal.

[pampango]

41. Unfortunately there are those here who will think "the enemy of my enemy is ..." n/t

[sufrommich]

43. This is the kind of shit talk that's going to backfire

spectacularly with women.

[Vinca]

50. Better get used to it.

It's only a matter of time before the "Do you want this guy back in the people's house?" ads are on the television with pictures of Lewinsky et al.

[leftofcool]

51. Which would be even worse for Trump

[yourpaljoey]

52. Trump is having the time of his life....

[Vinca]

54. I'm still convinced this started out as a joke for him and now he can't figure out a way

to extricate himself without looking like a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER.

[yourpaljoey]

60. You may be right about starting out as a joke

But he is wicked smart; he will have bull-roaring fun at the pickling and pummeling of Hill. Her past will be on display for all to see... that is some ugly stuff.
She will drop out for 'health reasons.'

[all american girl]

55. So are you saying that people shouldn't vote for Hillary because Trump is going to say

mean things. Trumps is going to say mean things about anyone, even if it was Bernie, that's just his MO. He'd be calling Bernie a communist and such crap...would you run away from that?

Just a note: I'm not calling Bernie a communist, just saying that Trump would because that's what he does. I don't think Bernie is a communist.

[Vinca]

56. Did I say that? I don't think so.

I'm saying we haven't seen the tip of the iceberg yet and what Trump has said so far is only a hint of things to come. This is going to be a nasty, dirty, X-rated campaign that will probably make us the laughingstock of the world. Thanks, Bill.

[all american girl]

59. Yeah, but he would do that to Bernie also. This man is just a jackass...no one is safe from his

shit. I mean he went after Cruz's wife...why? Because he thought he could, and it works for the republican base. Everyone else was appalled. Believe me, Trump had me defending Cruz, I so did not like that

And sorry, I'm shouldn't have said that.

[cwydro]

53. I've seen similar comments right here on DU.

A shame.

[Metric System]

81. Including right in this thread.

[Oneironaut]

58. Why doesn't our media call Trump out on his hypocrisy?

Literally no mention of Trumps' affairs ever. No mention in the media of Trump's other shady qualities ever. Total blackout. It's insane...

[awoke_in_2003]

99. When was the last time

the media actually did their jobs? Decades? Don Henley summed it up in Dirty Laundry.

[UCmeNdc]

63. This is the most insane thing Donald Trump has ever said.

Why would any woman with any kind of self respect take the side of the other woman who is cheating with her married husband?
This is so crazy that I cannot believe it is even considered a serious reason to vote against Hillary Clinton. So the wife is suppose to defend the other women in an affair?

[MariaThinks]

65. bring it on trump. this line of attack is going to backfire. and look in the mirror you disgusting

buffoon.

[ancianita]

74. Hillary is the adult who lives the 'for better or for worse' commitment better than Trump ever will.

Trump knows not the meaning of commitment. Except to his ego.

[Major Nikon]

75. If he thinks his constituency is too stupid to realize he's the enabler of his own affairs....

he's probably right.

[ancianita]

76. Given Trump's marital "enabling" immigration policy, we oughta build a wall around his dick.

And make him pay for it.

[Katashi_itto]

78. Meh, sounds like this was his idea of being polite. He hasn't even started being nasty yet.

[MH1]

84. I don't think that's going to be a winning gambit for him.

But on the other hand, he's obviously successful at marketing crap products, so what do I know?

I guess that's the scariest thing about this whole whacked-out election season.

In any rational world, comments like that would backfire as people - at least women - would take Hillary's side against this asshole.

But we aren't living in a rational world, are we?

[GOPblows431]

94. What an utter pig

I'll be laughing my ass off when Trump gets trounced in the GE.

[One_Life_To_Give]

98. Because it's the Women's role to go Lorena Bobbitt

That's what we men folk need to keep our pants on.

[GoCubsGo]

103. Pretty tough words coming from a guy who is on his third wife.

The only reason I ever heard of this asshole, in the first place, was because his sordid affair with Marla Maples became the biggest scandal of its day. Who enabled your affairs, you vulgar talking yam?

[fred v]

108. I'd Rather Not

1. I'm straight.
2. Who the hell knows where that tribble on his head has been???

[tammywammy]

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