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What the fuck? Do people seriously insist on these type of cringe worthy pronouns?
edgineered
(2,101 posts)Look at the side of the box - the words are the third person pronouns in other languages. For example, in Chinese the word ta can be either he or she.
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)Even borrowing such words doesn't make much sense here since it even admits a gender neutral one exists (they).
edgineered
(2,101 posts)Skittles
(153,113 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)"Ms." as a term for a woman who didn't want to be identified by her marital status was scoffed at and called ridiculous.Now it's so commonplace as to be the norm instead of the exception.
Squinch
(50,911 posts)much of their identity had previously been tied to their marital status.
The pronoun thing is definitely something that many of our friends will call a "first world problem" but I bet this catches on.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)SERIOUS ASSHOLES
Squinch
(50,911 posts)How you doing, Skittles? I haven't seen you much for a bit.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)hey, I am around, but I sleep during the day
Squinch
(50,911 posts)Response to ButterflyBlood (Original post)
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awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)But 3 or more? What is the point- so there is more of a chance for someone to get offended because I used the "wrong"' neutral pronoun?
hunter
(38,303 posts)Otherwise it's like shortening or otherwise modifying someone's name who doesn't want their name modified.
Anyways, there's no need for language or gender police. Life's not a high school grammar exam, or an Olympic sporting event where athletes are invasively tested for drugs too.
People are going to assume you are simply being an ass when you demand a "he" or a "she" if they've already asked you a few times to stop.
The first women who went by "Ms." and refused to accept demands for "Mrs." or "Miss" made the world a better place.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)just the need for multiple neutrals.
hunter
(38,303 posts)Language evolves. You never go wrong asking people which names they prefer to go by.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Will it be six in two more years, and 9 in five? Where does it end?
hunter
(38,303 posts)... the extinction of all pronouns but the letter "t."
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)much easier to remember.
bhikkhu
(10,711 posts)but I think its great that young people are really thinking about the language they use. Language guides perception, and consciously deciding to change one's perceptions to accommodate the feelings of others is an admirable effort of mindfulness.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I really hate "they," "them" or "their" being used to refer to one individual. A neutral pronoun is probably a good idea as the slash words (he/she) are cumbersome and using a plural pronoun to describe a singular person is just wrong.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)This is probably because of the collapse of grammatical gender in nouns in English, English's current situation of only having gender in it's pronouns is very rare when compared across all languages and this suggests that pronoun only gender is linguistically unstable in the long term. I suspect that singular "they" will completely replace he/she over the next few centuries, leaving a much more stable animate (they) vs. inanimate (it) distinction.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)LOL. I'm old, but...CHAUCER?!
I'm also stuck on two spaces after a period at the end of a sentence. It's hard to unlearn things that were so drilled into my head in my youth.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Nothing unusual about singular "they/them/their" to me
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)And I had some forceful ones. Do they even still do sentence diagrams?
romanic
(2,841 posts)I don't know anyone who use these so-called "gender-neutral" pronouns and I'm very active in my local LGBT community. The few MTF people I know use the feminine pronouns because that's how they identify. If I referred to them as "per" or "zie" they'd think I was having a seizure or something.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)use "zie" or "they."
romanic
(2,841 posts)That's probably why I guess. :I
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)marybourg
(12,586 posts)Maybe it'll end such abominations as: Me and him went to the store; They gave it to her and I; Myself and my wife are moving.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)All the invented ones are completely unnecessary. English currently only has gender in 3rd person singular pronouns, this is extremely rare and is linguistically unstable in the long term, in a few hundred years I expect that "they" will completely replace he/she on it's own.
StrayKat
(570 posts)Yes, it was used 500 years ago, but it fell out of favor last century.
It is definitely back in play now though. I don't think it will take hundreds of years to be universally accepted as millennials already seem to use it this way without balking. The singular "they" was 2015's Word of the year for the American Dialect Society and has already been added to the Washington Post's Style Guide.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/08/donald-trump-may-win-this-years-word-of-the-year/
JHB
(37,156 posts)Response to ButterflyBlood (Original post)
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Oneironaut
(5,486 posts)"They" - problem solved. The SJW on Tumblr are a little crazy, or are just bored college kids with nothing to do but armchair slacktivism.