This Election Is Going To Be An Awful Election The Way Things Look.

[TheMastersNemesis]

We are going to have a terribly nasty election. Probably the worst in history. It most likely won't be about the important issues but will be about cultural, personal and religious bullshit. And we can be sure the media will stir the post and try to make it a horse race the fate of the country be damned.

The question is will there be enough wise voters who will elect the right politicians. And will they be able to vote? No matter how bad or apocalyptic Trump and other GOPPERS might be the GOP will cheat, lie, steal, manipulate, trash and crash the vote to win.They are on a mission to destroy this country and create their own little dictatorship.

They are like a cornered rat and growing more dangerous every day.

[Buzz Clik]

1. HRC will keep her campaign focused on the issues. She'll be alone in that.

[FarPoint]

4. She will have many surrogate voices backing her up too.

Obama, Biden, Warren, Franken and the list goes on....

[AgingAmerican]

39. Brock is more like it

Poo flingers

[FarPoint]

41. You need to clarify.

Unless you are being basicly rude...I can not tell.

[AgingAmerican]

42. See David brocks million dollar poo flinging troll

Campaign for reference..

[FarPoint]

44. I'll pass....

Sounds filthy to me.

[Wilms]

47. It is.

It's a Clinton thing.

[whereisjustice]

11. The more she panders and manipulates and lies...

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The more people will go to Trump. They have to chose between two cold indifferent clueless candidates , Ill informed about the massive failure of government to serve the majority. They'll chose the more entertaining one.

[FarPoint]

43. I don't see that scenario at all.

By August, big team Party unity....huge wave of campaign energy.

[whereisjustice]

45. Um... no.

[w4rma]

12. The "issues", like the issues that she's telling neoconservative Bush donors that she supports more

than Trump does? Those issues?

[Buzz Clik]

13. Reheating the "neocon" bullshit?

[AlbertCat]

25. Reheating the "neocon" bullshit?

Oh look, yet another "yawn"!
Don't fall asleep too soon.... again.


Hillary Clinton Promises A More Muscular Foreign Policy As President

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-iran-foreign-policy_us_55f05c2ae4b002d5c07786b2

[ChisolmTrailDem]

26. That's what that one does when challenged, they fall asleep. It's typical of right-wingers, too. nt

[w4rma]

14. Trump as Unifier: Are Hillary Clinton and Neoconservatives Ready to Join Forces?

'Neocon elites are probably the likeliest faction to defect to Clinton, and what they'd want is blood-curdling aggressiveness overseas and Benjamin Netanyahu in charge of Middle East policy.'
…
On Wednesday, the Clinton campaign at least hinted at this approach by posting a list of people it described as "prominent activists, journalists and elected officials" in the Republican Party who have decided to reject Trump, quoting some who explicitly said they would vote for Clinton if she ends up as the Democratic nominee. A verbatim sampling from the list (which was further updated by the campaign on Thursday) follows:

• Lifelong Republican, foreign policy expert Max Boot: “[Hillary Clinton] would be vastly preferable to Trump.’”

• Billionaire Bush-backer Mike Fernandez: “If I have a choice — and you can put it in bold — if I have a choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton, I’m choosing Hillary.”

• Elliott Abrams, former foreign policy advisor for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush: “won’t be voting for Trump”

According to journalist and political commentator Sam Sacks, who spoke with D.C.-based Sputnik Radio about the same dynamic on Thursday, observers can expect to "see a lot of the neoconservatives, people who were, ironically, very close in the George W. Bush administration... coming home and supporting Clinton, who has a foreign policy record that hews pretty neoconservative."
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Clinton probably won't be able to get meaningful numbers of Republican defectors. She is absolutely loathed among the Republican base and has been for years and years. Reuters says 84 percent of Republicans have an unfavorable view of Clinton, CNN has them at 85 percent. While she might get a few prominent neocons like Max Boot or Robert Kagan, they won't bring anyone over with them. And those few aside, the vast majority of the party will accommodate themselves to Trump eventually. It's happening already.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/05/05/trump-unifier-are-hillary-clinton-and-neoconservatives-ready-join-forces

[Buzz Clik]

34. This is a violation of the TOS. Damn, I can't wait until the penalties are enforced again.

[Redwoods Red]

36. It's a TOS violation to post from a progressive outlet?

That criticizes Clinton from the left for cozying up to necons?

And uses her own campaign materials to do so?

[Buzz Clik]

38. Keep it coming. The countdown clock is running.

[AgingAmerican]

40. The purge countdown?

Hillary supporters severely lack foresight

[Scootaloo]

53. Says someone with eleven hides?

Well okay then.

[Redwoods Red]

35. OMG! They put Elliot Abrams on their list! Are they proud of that?

Elliot Abrams is human scum. Anti-communist crusader against the people of Central America, major cheerleader for the Contra War and Reagan's support for the Salvadoran rightists, convicted criminal, and now Middle East war hawk. This guy should be in prison, not being celebrated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Abrams

Elliott Abrams (born January 24, 1948) is a former American diplomat, lawyer and political scientist who served in foreign policy positions for U.S. Presidents, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.[2] Abrams was convicted for withholding information from Congress about the Iran-Contra affair while serving for Reagan, but pardoned by President George H. W. Bush.[3]

He is currently a senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.[4] Additionally, Abrams holds positions on the Committee for Peace and Security in the Gulf (CPSG), Center for Security Policy & National Secretary Advisory Council, Committee for a Free Lebanon, and the Project for the New American Century.[5] Abrams is a current member of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council and teaches foreign policy at Georgetown University as well as maintaining a CFR blog called "Pressure Points" about the U.S. foreign policy and human rights.[3] In February 2014, Abrams, a commissioner of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, gave testimony before a House congressional committee that Christians globally are the most persecuted of the world religions.[6]

During the Reagan administration, Abrams gained notoriety for his involvement in controversial foreign policy decisions regarding Nicaragua and El Salvador. During Bush's first term, he served as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director on the National Security Council for Near East and North African Affairs. At the start of Bush's second term, Abrams was promoted to be his Deputy National Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy, in charge of promoting Bush's strategy of advancing democracy abroad. His appointment by Bush was controversial due to his conviction in 1991 on two misdemeanor counts of unlawfully withholding information from Congress during the Iran-Contra Affair investigation.

[AlbertCat]

21. HRC will keep her campaign focused on the issues.

So when is she gonna start?

[HooptieWagon]

28. That'll be a first.

[Blue Meany]

51. She's pretty good at twisting the records of other candidates to tear down straw men

but I'm not sure what she's going to do with a candidate with no political record at all.

[Scootaloo]

52. That'll be a nice change, sure.

So far it's looking like her GE campaign is going to focus simply on her being one of the seven point five-some billion human beings on this planet who are not Donald Trump.

[runaway hero]

2. You have spoken on Middle America before.

What do you think are the factors that have lead to Trump?

[FarPoint]

5. These Teabaggerish groups have always been there.

It's not a rise in hate mongering... They just have access to social media... Makes them look newer, but they have always been there..just not exposed as in even 10-15 years ago. Hate is easy...

[CanonRay]

10. It may not be a rise in hatemongering

but I think it has become socially acceptable, sadly.

[runaway hero]

17. We have been pushed to extremes.

The tea party was a scam. They did nothing that they said they were going to do.

[Egnever]

49. Trump is a by product of a rapidly shrinking Republican party

And years of dog whistles inside that party. He represents many of the reasons people have been abandoning the party and it is why so many that remain in the republican party are dead set against him winning in the general.

Nothing magical about his winning. The republican party created this problem themselves by relying on cloaked bigotry to hold onto a base. The fact that there are now enough of these types inside the republican party to rule the party has been foreshadowed by all the teabaggers elected in the previous 3 elections.

The navel gazing wonder at this happening is ridiculous.

[beachbumbob]

3. A democratic landslide and retaking congress I don't care how nasty

It gets....there are at three Supreme Court justices at stake and so much more...

[oldandhappy]

6. The last year and a half have not been a joy.

I do not know what the answer is. Our elections are out of hand.

[ancianita]

7. As Obama taught us, the election will be as honorable as the Democratic nominee makes it.

[zalinda]

20. Then it won't be that honorable, if it's a certain candidate. eom

[ancianita]

24. Democrats, no matter the candidate, set standards for honorable elections. Not Republicans.

Your partisan preference is a comparison within a party. I'm comparing the honorability of parties across time.

[mehneh]

8. oh

The Kim kardashian of elections? trump is kim kardashian!

[Ghost in the Machine]

9. Off to the "Greatest Page" you go! Yes, it's going to be ugly, for sure, but I, personally, would

have picked a better euphemism than "They are like a cornered rat and growing more dangerous every day" because I can take care of ANY cornered rat with my size 14 steel toed boot

Who knows? Maybe Trump will self-destruct before the Primary, or what sane few that are left on the repugnantcan's side of the aisle will trot out a dark horse at the Convention, making Trump run 3rd Party, which will split the repug vote and ensure a Democratic win... or he will get indicted over the Trump University Scandal?

I just feel something BIG is going to happen soon, and I'm usually right when I have these feelings....

Peace,

Ghost

[certainot]

15. it starts at your local rw radio station - $390 MIL/Month

at a cheap $1000/hr x 15hrs/day x 1200 stations, rw talk radio is worth 4.68 BIL$/ year or 390MIL$ /month FREE for coordinated global warming denial, pro republican wall st think tank propaganda, deregulation, hate, and swiftboating

and the whole thing would collapse if the left would stop letting these 90 universities rent their logos to 270 limbaugh stations to help them sell their crap

advertisers would desert rw radio it would fall apart. their ability to excuse their dirty tricks and generate trump teabagger mobs would dissolve

[Silver_Witch]

16. Read about the Lincoln v Douglas 1860 Election.

Now that was ugly. I don't think this years will be that bad.

[Aristus]

18. The Lincoln-Douglas Debates were in 1858 and centered around the Senatorial race

for the state of Illinois.

It wasn't for the Presidency.

[Silver_Witch]

50. Ooops sorry. I stand corrected!

I added Douglas in error - I was referring to the 1860 Presidential Election where horrible cartoons of Lincoln prevailed depicting him as an ape. It was a very ugly election.

[Triana]

19. "the country be damned"

Media is owned by 5-6 HUGE corprats. They don't give a damn about you or me or the country. They give a damn about PROFIT and their shareholders. They'd make a 'battle' between a daisy and mushroom mold into a horse race for profit if it gets advert money and viewers.

Hillary is HUGELY unpopular among some very important demographics. As is Trump. The question will be "who is more unpopular?" - because whoever that is will be the loser and the other almost as unpopular candidate will get the job.

It's HIGHLY unnerving.

DOG help us all.

[zalinda]

23. Well there are differences to be sure

and the most popular ones will be economic.

Trump is for ending the trade agreements and Hillary has video of being for NAFTA, CAFTA and TPP to name a few.

Trump is for creating new jobs in America and Hillary has video on having more H1B visas and about the opportunities of off shoring.

You get the idea.

Just these 2 talking points will be played over and over again. No one will have to lie about it because they will have Hillary's own voice saying it. You think those who have lost jobs won't vote Trump just because of those 2 reasons? People are losing their homes, people are turning to food banks and people who have spent fortunes on education are getting stuck in minimum wage jobs. You think the social inequality is going to matter to people who for the first time are finding it difficult to keep a roof over their heads? Think again. Survival is the number one instinct in all humans, and for the first time in decades more than one generation is finding their survival threatened.

Hillary does not have a walk to the Presidency, no matter how many times you want to denigrate those who would vote for Trump.

Z

[Triana]

30. Can't argue w/ anything you've written.

Well said, actually.

[SammyWinstonJack]

54. But but but.....She's been VETTED!!!!!!!!! since forEVER!!!!!!!

Clearly the BEST choice IS BERNIE......

[DrBulldog]

22. Yes, wotta gawd-awful choice.

A totally rigged corrupt undemocratic Democratic Party of exclusively professional elites that carried out a dirty and cheating campaign against Sanders VERSUS a GOP completely shredded by lunacy, bigotry, racism, and homophobia. Both respective candidates are despised by the public and make the informed voters vomit.

This is voting for the lessor evil on steroids. What a shameful time for America.

[CrispyQ]

27. I hope it will wake up millions of non-voters to how rigged our system has become.

They need to get involved. Also people need to see beyond the presidential election & vote in the midterms.

[ViseGrip]

29. Too many American's hate the Clintons. Her numbers are the worst.

so the people are being saddled. not good as it drives DOWN turnout. The republicans will win. That's my bet.

[Katashi_itto]

31. Trump or Clinton

[xloadiex]

32. The DNC, MSM and Corporate America

"Tough shit. You'll take what we have chosen for you and like it."

[BillZBubb]

33. The choice between evil and more evil isn't very appealing.

I've never before been forced to vote for someone I believed was evil or corrupt. I've always liked the Democratic nominee to various degrees and never thought of them as corrupt. I proudly supported and voted for our nominee.

Not this time.

I will happily vote for down ballot Democratic candidates obviously. For the first time in my life, the box at the top will remain blank.

[skip fox]

37. The idea of a cornered rat resonates with precision.

I've long felt the Republican party knew that history was against them demographically. But instead of becoming more inclusive, they tried to disenfranchise millions of minorities. But even that is a finger in the dike, and they know it.

So they have acted very much like a rat trapped in the corner.

And yes, Trump's actions and words, as well as the actions and words of his supporters, will exemplify the rat-trapped-in-the-corner syndrome

Well conceived.

(By the way, I have faith. God know why.)

[Dems to Win]

46. It's great reality TV. And the cheating will be done on Hillary's behalf.

I'm not surprised Trump is the Repub nominee -- he is a reality TV master, and Americans love celebrities. Always remember that Schwarzenegger got elected governor of California when Repubs couldn't win anything statewide. Celebrities get votes.

IMHO, Bill Clinton is the director of this reality TV series. He encouraged Trump to run, and to do so in a way that will guarantee a victory for Hillary. Bill and Donald are working together to get Hillary into the White House. Today, Donald attacked Hillary on Bill's infidelities, and millions of American women are outraged that she is being held responsible for his wrongdoing. More sympathy votes for Hillary.

The people who rig the voting machines will likely do so in favor of Clinton, not Trump. She's the one in the race most likely to feed the military industrial complex, funnel lots of money to Wall Street, and keep the gravy train rolling along as usual for the 1%.

The Establishment is firmly on Hillary's side, and she'll get all the breaks they can give her, including election fraud.

Come on California. A blow-out win for Bernie there could get him into the lead on pledged delegates. I'm still holding onto a shred of hope for a real choice in November. #StillSanders

[pampango]

48. Trump could be running against Nelson Mandela and this would be the nastiest election ever.

The Donald is the master of nasty, personal insult campaigning.