"I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding"

[Shankapotomus]

Reposting from "Video & Media". This needs to be made a huge issue in the 2016 election. Trump needs to be confronted with this and answer for his lie. The media MUST press Trump on this!
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He said he has people in Hawaii "that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding". Oh, really? Well, we know that was a lie.

In 2011, Donald Trump was caught red-handed in a lie about the investigation into the President's birth certificate and nobody called him on it.

This should be a bombshell issue in the 2016 campaign.

Donald Trump should be pressed now, during this campaign, to answer exactly whatever happened to those unbelievable findings?

How could something unbelievable that Trump claimed was already found, suddenly disappear when President Obama released his long form birth certificate?

You cannot retract from existence something you already claimed existed unless you were lying.

A person who lies about an inquiry into whether a sitting president is legitimately allowed to hold the office of president, is unfit to be elected president themselves.

Trump needs to be pressed by the media and the democratic nominee (hopefully during a debate) to answer this FULLY. Not dodge, deflect or distract. Answer the question.

In regards to Obama's birth certificate, where did these alleged "findings" of his "people" that "they cannot believe" disappear to?

[djean111]

1. From what I have been seeing, there are no "bombshells" any more.

A politician's supporters simply do not care. This seems to apply to almost all politicians, these days.

And, really, if people are supporting a candidate because of personality or whatever, they won't care. If people are supporting a candidate because of actual issues (getting rare theses days) - they won't care. If people are supporting a candidate because they are the "lesser evil" (both parties) - they won't care.

[Hortensis]

7. Exactly--for the GOP. How many conservatives were so repelled by

all the Hillary Hate being spewed by their candidates to pick up the nasties that they refused to vote for them? Well, some, and many of those went indie--just as a statement because they then voted GOP anyway. They're used to it. SOP for their party.

Not the Democrats, btw. Pols on our side don't do that because liberals are repelled by that behavior. Look at Bernie. Yes, he has some followers who love that stuff, but all criticisms of Hillary have been very restrained.

[gordianot]

31. Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner.

The single most insightful DU post of 2016. There is no outrage to be had it has all been exhausted. It works for both parties and all candidates. Here on DU I spoke my mind on the Hillary group and got banned instantly, I almost got banned on the Sanders group and invited them to ban me they would not. There is no minor or major scandal, unethical act on a sliding scale, criticism, illegal act, short of shaking a baby in public that deters or gives pause to true believers both parties. They must all have warm fuzzy feelings in the morning looking in the mirror knowing they are smarter than every one else. Yes literally Trump possibly others could shoot someone on the street and be excused. That degree loyalty can be found elsewhere.

[stonecutter357]

5. when bernie fails to be elected it will be his fault no one else.

[Ford_Prefect]

9. DNC Debbie had nothing to do with that at all, right?

[stonecutter357]

10. is it Debbie fault i don't like bernie?

bernie is the reason i did not vote for bernie.

[Ford_Prefect]

11. DNC Debbie had nothing to do with that that either? How would you know?

You clearly have no clue what she's been doing to the Democratic party or the primary process on behalf of her principle investors.

[stonecutter357]

13. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is doing more for the DNC than BS ever will.

[Bluenorthwest]

18. Debbie is a conservative who favors anti cannabis laws and has endorsed Republicans over

Democrats. In Florida she might be able to pawn herself off as a Democrat but here in Oregon she'd never get elected as one with all of those regressive, right wing views.

[stonecutter357]

19. seems legit !

[shawn703]

24. Our losses in Congress since she's been chair prove your point

Unfortunately, I doubt it's a point you really want to make.

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. +1000000

[snort]

33. That post was hidden?

Holy shit. +1 CBS.

[Democat]

20. Please stop trying to bring your Primaries Forum hatred to the other forums

Go hate somewhere else.

[ybbor]

23. Can't be serious has no hate

Never has, only states truth and a strong sense of reality. One of the most principled progressive posters on DU. You must be thinking of someone else.

[SwankyXomb]

30. +a lot

The GD vitriol is leaking into almost every thread these days.

[awoke_in_2003]

3. If we had a media

they would call him on it. But we haven't had media in defades. We have stenographers

[Human101948]

4. His followers just don't care...

Trump, Truth and the Power of Contradiction

That contradictions are particularly useful to Mr. Trump also tells us
something about what some people find appealing about him. Indeed, it
reveals an even deeper contradiction. Mr. Trump’s explicit lack of authenticity
is what makes him so authentic. He is like a walking oxymoron (which is
perhaps not surprising, given that reality TV is the medium in which he has
most flourished). To some, that he is contradicting himself so freely shows that
he really doesn’t care what “they” (read: the news media, liberals, women,
minorities) think. The signal this sends is one of strength: Only the strong can
afford not to care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/trump-truth-and-the-power-of-contradiction.html?emc=edit_th_20160509&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=70251688

[PJMcK]

12. Good column

Thanks for linking to this article, Human101948.

This last paragraph is pointed:

In George Orwell’s “1984,” the protagonist is tortured until he agrees that two plus two equals five. The point, his torturer makes clear, is to make him see that there is no objective truth other than what the party says is true. That’s the deep power of contradiction. Repeated enough, political contradictions can lull us into giving up on critical thought altogether. And once that happens, we risk giving up on truth. At which point contradictions — and everything other than power — will no longer matter.

[Ford_Prefect]

8. We have repeating megaphones and an echo chamber populated by talking heads and cheerleaders.

The majority of them could not find their way out of the parking lot without a teleprompter, GPS and a staff of 3 handlers.

[MiniMe]

14. I heard somewhere that he never sent anybody to Hawaii to do the investigation

So not only is he lying about what they found, they never went there to find it.

[thesquanderer]

21. He did send people to investigate, but they were hit by sniper fire.

This is going to be one ugly campaign.

[peace13]

28. Yes.

When a woman can demean the military men and women by lying about the quality of their service and continue to run for the position of their commander and chief there is something seriously wrong.

[griloco]

15. He's lying to everyone else, he's telling ME the truth.

He's a con artist. He'll talk his way out of that if it ever comes up.

[secondwind]

16. Kenyan grandma never said he was born there.. she simply said, "he's from here", which is a very

common thing to say .

[ToxMarz]

17. This and the Donalds tax return are what Hillary's surrogates should be addressing

when the Media echo chamber goes off on Hillary releasing transcripts of her speeches. They should not even address the subject, but double down on the release of this information and his tax returns. End of discussion until these two issues are confronted.

[Pakid]

22. Never happen with today's news media

In case no one has notice they are in the bag for Trump and the Republican Party and have been for a long time. The so called liberal media doesn't exist

[Shankapotomus]

35. .

Then this has to be an audience question at one of the town hall debates between him and Hillary.

[rtracey]

25. sad but

Sad but the answer he can give is I have people on this and "they cannot believe" what they are finding.... he can simply say "I couldn't believe what they were finding, they were finding that he really was a citizen, and I don't believe it" thats the way he can get out if it.... I dont recall him saying the major finding were anything......

[catbyte]

26. "He's pulling one of the greatest cons in the history of politics."

How true. We just didn't know it at the time that he was talking about himself.

What a vile, dishonest, evil piece of work.

[spanone]

27. K&R...the media no longer does investigative reporting. it's dead.

they only report what mr trump says, nothing more.

[Jim__]

29. Dog bites man, Trump tells lie. It's not news.

Trump gets something right - now that would be news!

[marcopolo63]

32. Freudian slip maybe...

...or prophetic projection - I don't know. But Trump's last words in this 2011 interview about Obama's birth certificate and alleged birth location are "Obama may have perpetrated one of the greatest cons in American politics"! I'm not sure what historic political con could rival this, were it true.

But ever the "winner" and not to be outdone by the black guy - Donald himself has now set out to perpetrate the greatest con EVER in American politics!

[randome]

34. No one should even ask him to explain this.

They should simply look into the camera and tell it like it is: "Clearly Donald Trump did not know what he was talking about or he was simply running off at the mouth again."

Don't give him a chance to refute anything. Don't call him a liar. Put him on the defensive without directly attacking him.
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[ThoughtCriminal]

36. What they were finding was nothing

that they could not believe that, is hardly surprising.