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Oh wise and Omnipotent DU, tell me, what's up with Brazil? (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine May 2016 OP
To tell you the truth... i just don't care.....maybe they will finally.... clarice May 2016 #1
The lean toward socialism truebluegreen May 2016 #2
Socialism in Brazil? AgingAmerican May 2016 #4
It is also racist to the core n/t malaise May 2016 #6
Yep that was very apparent AgingAmerican May 2016 #7
Neo-liberalism on steroids malaise May 2016 #9
From one Favela we overlooked a very rich area with skyscrapers and lakes, beaches AgingAmerican May 2016 #10
It's a fugging mess malaise May 2016 #11
I'm glad that never happens here! ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #12
Hehehehehhe malaise May 2016 #15
Meth is a terrible drug. Katashi_itto May 2016 #17
I believe you are on the wrong website. roody May 2016 #24
I am uncertain but watch Latin America faithfully. PufPuf23 May 2016 #3
FIFA and the IOC aren't democracies jberryhill May 2016 #26
You should care - what went down was unconstitutional malaise May 2016 #5
Yes, you should care. Meldread May 2016 #8
What is their income? Control of natural resources? ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #13
My Volkswagen was made in Brasil. roody May 2016 #14
Mostly, the made a lot of components for VW Brother Buzz May 2016 #23
The same thing that's up with most countries the world over: Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #16
New news. Impeachment to proceed ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #18
What was the IOC thinking when they picked Rio? maryellen99 May 2016 #19
Other than killer mosquitos, killer water, killer crime, and widespread corruption... FrodosPet May 2016 #20
They do have a city that they can use if they have to pull a bid-Los Angeles. maryellen99 May 2016 #21
Yep, only place that could pull it off ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #22
They were thinking "there's enough money in that suitcase... jberryhill May 2016 #27
I don't know but... moondust May 2016 #25
Yep, the plunderers are in charge ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #28
 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
1. To tell you the truth... i just don't care.....maybe they will finally....
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:42 PM
May 2016

stop the lean toward Socialism. Doesn't work....Never will.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
2. The lean toward socialism
Mon May 9, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

Works just fine in Scandanavia and other civilized nations. How is capitalism working for all the folks here? I suppose you will say, "Exceptionally."

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
7. Yep that was very apparent
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:15 PM
May 2016

The Favelas were almost 100% black. Even our 'liberal' tour guide wouldn't admit it was racial when I asked why everyone in the Favelas were black and the rest of Rio was either mulatto or Portuguese.

There were no public hospital, just walled, gated private ones. Same with colleges.

Socialist my ass...

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
10. From one Favela we overlooked a very rich area with skyscrapers and lakes, beaches
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:25 PM
May 2016

The tour guide was explaining one of the high rises was a single apartment per floor, costing millions per residence. I asked her what the difference was between the people living in the rich areas and those in the slums. She said one word: College

I asked her how hard is it for a poor person to go to college in Brazil. She stated it is almost impossible because it is so expensive.

College is the difference between living in a slum or living in a high rise/nice neighborhood.

College should be a RIGHT everywhere.

malaise

(268,901 posts)
11. It's a fugging mess
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

Check out today's Panama Papers release - lots of rich Latin Americans are hiding money that used to be part of taxes to improve healthcare, education and infrastructure.

The corrupt thieves are everywhere - and they are only exposed when they don't defer to the interests of the global rich and their political tools - and of course the bosses at the multi-lateral agencies.

PufPuf23

(8,764 posts)
3. I am uncertain but watch Latin America faithfully.
Mon May 9, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

I am against the impeachment and support social democracies in general, in specific Latin America.

malaise

(268,901 posts)
5. You should care - what went down was unconstitutional
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:08 PM
May 2016
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/09/brazil-dilma-rousseff-impeachment-vote-annulled
<snip>
Brazil’s political tumult has descended into farce after a little-known and newly appointed lower house speaker proclaimed the annulment of last month’s impeachment vote against Dilma Rousseff.

The surprise move – which was immediately challenged by senior figures in the senate – provided an absurd twist in the country’s ongoing political drama that would stretch the credibility of a House of Cards plot.

Just days before the senate was expected to adopt the motion and suspend the president, Waldir Maranhão – who took over as acting speaker last week – appeared to have thrown Rousseff a lifeline by saying the vote needed to be rerun due to procedural flaws.

The Workers’ party leader was crushed in a boisterous and sometimes bizarre lower house impeachment
vote on 17 April when more than two-thirds of deputies agreed that she should be removed from office for whitewashing government accounts with money borrowed from state banks ahead of her 2014 re-election campaign.

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The word is bizzare - it was a parliamentary coup that has nothing to do with the Constitution.

Meldread

(4,213 posts)
8. Yes, you should care.
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:16 PM
May 2016

1. The group in power are more-or-less liberals. It should be our objective to ensure that liberal governments are put in power in every nation on the face of the Earth. Therefore, the potential downfall of one is bad.

2. The particular party in question is/was corrupt as fuck. Unfortunately, it was more-or-less the status quo for Brazil across the board. Our position should be to encourage Brazil to put forward very strong anti-corruption laws. It could be used as an opportunity to clean things up, while hopefully allowing them to save face and remain in power. I know the far right--especially the religious right--are excited about all of this and are hoping to make gains.

Brother Buzz

(36,412 posts)
23. Mostly, the made a lot of components for VW
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:30 PM
May 2016

My VW was not assembled in Brazil, but I noticed "Made in Brazil" stamped and embossed on a lot of the parts.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
16. The same thing that's up with most countries the world over:
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:11 AM
May 2016

Corruption.

Should you care? Maybe.

Is it good? Probably not.

Bad? Very likely, but only marginally worse than if she actually had been impeached.

The Olympics? Bad news for Brazil.

What do the people want? Almost 90% of the Brazilian public wants her gone.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
20. Other than killer mosquitos, killer water, killer crime, and widespread corruption...
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

...what is wrong with having the Olympics in Rio?

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
21. They do have a city that they can use if they have to pull a bid-Los Angeles.
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:27 PM
May 2016

I remember how giddy the stupid Teabaggers/Foxbots were when Rio was awarded the bid and not Chicago because they thought it was a slap in the face to President Obama.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
22. Yep, only place that could pull it off
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

The Olympics are gonna be weird from here on out. Can't postpone them, they have to happen then. Rio is gonna be horrible if they stage them there.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. They were thinking "there's enough money in that suitcase...
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:00 AM
May 2016

...for a shitload of hookers and blow."

moondust

(19,972 posts)
25. I don't know but...
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:45 AM
May 2016

France24 has reported that there are no women in the new cabinet but there are some guys from old political dynasties. As such, I'm inclined to believe Dilma that it's a coup.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
28. Yep, the plunderers are in charge
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

Goodbye Brazil. Goodbye natural resources, hello Rich people getting richer. Same as it ever was.

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