Maybe he can win without women

[kpete]

It's not surprising to me that so many women would be appalled by Donald Trump. As I've said before, it's as if the Republicans had chosen David Duke to run against Barack Obama in 2008.

But it's also awfully depressing that so many men in this country really don't give a damn about this. Trump can spew sexist stuff all day long and it doesn't make them think any less of him.


Sad!

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/maybe-he-can-win-without-women.html

[doc03]

1. Trump is going to get many votes from Democrats and Independants. I don't think he

will have any problem carrying Ohio.

[liberal N proud]

2. Democrats are going to vote for Trump?

What are you basing that fantasy on?

Maybe some of those who recently registered as Democrat so they could vote for Bernie the Great. But real Democrats will never vote for that. Republicans are having a hard time stomaching him.

[doc03]

5. Beleive me many Democrats in the rust belt will vote for Trump because of the forign trade.

I know many life long staunch Democrat former union workers that will vote for him. You don't know
how pissed off people are about NAFTA and all the steel mills, mines and other manufacturing jobs that it destroyed.

[liberal N proud]

13. You keep saying that but nothing to back it up

No statistics, no studies no links nothing.

[doc03]

14. Go out and talk to a few people that lost good paying jobs in manufacturing.

Keep believing all your polls statistics if you want. There are 16 Republicans that thought Trump was a joke and every single one of
those talking heads on TV. Then everyone predicted this big civil war in Cleveland and look what we have now probably a civil war
at the Democratic convention instead.

[Wounded Bear]

16. Sorry, anecdotal evidence doesn't trump polls...

(pardon the pun)

[doc03]

18. MSNBC 89% of West Viginians say they will vote Trump over Clinton. n/t

[Jeffersons Ghost]

20. Predictable doc but what's unusual is kpete with only 3 recs, counting mine, on great anti-Trump!

Some casual responses with other citizens in New Mexico lean toward Trump. Martinez (R), our governor is popular. An overall mistrust in media and government propelled some of the encounters.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

21. What about the Republican CAFTA and trade deals with China?

Even so, I just read a poll for conservatives, here in New Mexico and 71% of them want to "dump Trump." Martinez, our Republican governor is popular.

[Adrahil]

24. Then they are idiots. Despite what he says, The Donald loves those deals.

He made a lot of kone off them.

Not to mention, those jobs are NOT coming back. Many blue collar workers have this fantasy of large, high employment factories coming back. Will. Not. Happen. Modern factories simply do not employ thousands and thousands of people anymore. They are heavily automated with a workfroce a fraction of what they were just a couple days ago.

[pampango]

23. There have been 'Reagan-Democrats' for a long time.

Unfortunately it is nothing new.

[TwilightZone]

3. Recent CBS poll has Clinton up 51/33 with Independents.

I'm not sure where the "Trump will win Independents" idea started, but it has little basis in reality.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-poll-hillary-clinton-leads-donald-trump-but-voters-view-both-unfavorably/

The same poll indicated that Trump's support among Dems was 8%. Does that qualify as "many"?

[madville]

7. They are roughly tied among independents

In most swing states, look at recent polls from Florida and Ohio, that's where it's decided.

Men in Florida favor Trump over Clinton 49-33, while women are the exact opposite, 48-33. States like Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, etc are toss-ups right now, scary.

[TwilightZone]

11. One poll does not a trend make

And if you're talking about the Q polls, they have some issues:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/10/a-new-poll-shows-trump-beating-clinton-in-ohio-but-it-assumes-a-pretty-white-electorate/

Where the trends are concerned, they also look like outliers:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton-5635.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/oh/ohio_trump_vs_clinton-5634.html

[Nye Bevan]

10. YES. All the Democrats who want women to have "some form of punishment" for abortions, for example.

That's probably quite a lot, no?

[gratuitous]

22. I'll take that action for a $10 donation to DU

Trump will not carry Ohio.

[UTUSN]

4. And without Hispanics. And Blacks. And ...

[Gothmog]

6. Trump is good at alienating women voters

[Wounded Bear]

17. Trump is good at alienating everyone...

FIFY

[hollysmom]

8. sadly I just came back from a visit with my niece.

her husband is a registered democrat and he likes Trump because "he is an outsider". I told him he could not vote for him in the primary but he could vote for Bernie and that is where we left it.

[pressbox69]

9. Can't see why any woman in her right mind would support Trump.

other than republican women that are usually out of their minds.

[Nye Bevan]

12. Many Republican women will tell their husbands that they are voting for Trump,

and then in the privacy of casting their vote will support the first ever female presidential candidate over the "blood coming out of her wherever" guy.

[Dont call me Shirley]

15. A great big "Hell No!"

[Hekate]

19. In the privacy of the voting booth a significant slice of Repub women will vote for Hillary.

[pampango]

25. He is trying to prove the 2012 GOP post-mortem to be wrong. republicans can win without women and

minorities. Maybe white men can win one last election for them before demographics consume them.