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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsACLU Calls for Investigation into Catholic Hospitals Over Prohibitions on Reproductive Healthcare
"When a pregnant woman seeks medical care at a hospital," said ACLU of Washington Executive Director Kathleen Taylor, "she should be able to trust that decisions about her treatment will be based on medicine, not religious policies."
As Cienna Madrid explained in The Stranger back in 2013, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops maintain a set of "Ethical and Religious Directives" that govern Catholic hospitalsincluding, for example, Providence hospitals in Washingtonand bar them from offering services including contraception, sterilization, and abortion.
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/05/10/24066681/aclu-calls-for-investigation-of-catholic-hospitals-over-prohibitions-on-reproductive-healthcare?mc_cid=c96c4f58d1&mc_eid=8915d78ecb
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)This is an ongoing problem in my state, as the Catholic church continues to gobble up our medical care.
for religionistas of all stripes.
icymist
(15,888 posts)I live out on the peninsula where there are no other options unless I travel across the sound to Seattle. Even those hospitals are getting gobbled up by the RC church. Even the nursing homes out here are beginning to be dictated what they may and may not do. It's RC dogma first and healthcare second. And on the public's tax dollars.
icymist
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Physicians at Catholic hospitals have to agree to abide by the ERDs as a condition of obtaining privileges. Depending in part on the whim of the local bishop, this could include gag rules prohibiting counseling a patient or referring a patient to a place that would provide necessary services.
In Washington state, data shows that 40% of all hospital beds are in a Catholic hospital. There is no other option for care in entire regions. This is especially true in rural regions, and it is frightening when the only access to healthcare is dictated by someone elses religious doctrine, rather than medical science.
For example, San Juan Island developed an affiliation with PeaceHealth, a Catholic health system. Now women on the island cant get necessary reproductive care, a problem on other islands as well. There has been little detail available as to what compromises to patient care and autonomy the University of Washington made when it, too, affiliated with PeaceHealth. Washingtons Swedish Medical Center stopped doing abortions and closed its hospice after making a similar affiliation.
While these reports focused on restricted access to reproductive care, the Catholic directives also may interfere with end-of-life decision-making. Living wills may not be honored if they conflict with the ERDsbut you are likely not to know that before a crisis. Washington state, like Oregon, has a Death With Dignity law which allows terminally ill adults to request and self-administer lethal medications prescribed by a physician. But staff may be prohibited from speaking about Death With Dignity options, or from referring patients to organizations that can help provide that option.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/05/07/health-care-denied-at-550-hospitals-because-of-catholic-doctrine/#6d6864f11bb3
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It is the Catholic Church's medical care. They have the right to outlaw procedures against their religion. I find that argument poor. Now if you want to say that they should not be allowed to accept Medicare payments, I think you might be onto something.
icymist
(15,888 posts)under Catholic directives? Entire communities have no other alternative.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It is THEIR hospital.If the only school close by was a Catholic school would you make the same argument? Would it have merit?
icymist
(15,888 posts)eom
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Yes, many if not most Catholic hospitals will then shut down, but I have no problem with that.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)At least not at anything approaching their current levels.
Denying government funding unless hospitals meet certain standards of care is exactly what the ACLU is recommending.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Government funding = government rules.
AllyCat
(16,177 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)A horrible organization.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)It's the follow the standard of care or lose federal payments concept.
Catholic hospitals can't be forced to stay open - they can choose to follow the rules or lose their federal funding stream and shut down.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts).......and take over those hospitals, they'll need to go.......where.......for emergency treatment?
But don't be too sure that those White Knights will show up. The alternative to Catholic hospitals are more often than not for-profit hospital corporations, who may not be interested in setting up shop in a lot of those less-than-metropolitan areas.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)But a church can't be forced to keep hospitals open and provide services that violate their religious beliefs. If forced to do so, they'll most likely choose to shut down, and it is well within their right to do so.
As they're receiving federal payments, they should have to provide services that comply with the standards of care.
icymist
(15,888 posts)Bremerton, and other densely populated area in the Puget Sound. All these hospitals have been bought up or gone into partnership with the Catholic Church, some recently.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)icymist
(15,888 posts)is legal. And so on and so on...