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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsColorado Springs Planned Parenthood killer ruled mentally incompetent.
Guess they're gonna have to pump more thorazine into him before putting him on trial. That's usually how it works - mental incompetence is usually a temporary thing - once the mental health people get him on medication & therapy, and get the delusions under control, he will still have to answer for shooting three people dead.
And I'm not inclined to let him slide. He murdered three people, he knew he was killing people with weapons, even in his mental state, and I want him to be harshly punished.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/planned-parenthood-gunman-declared-mentally-incompetent-for-trial/
The man accused of killing three people and wounding nine others in a shooting rampage last year at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado was declared incompetent to stand trial at a court hearing on his mental state on Wednesday.
The ruling by El Paso County Judge Gilbert Martinez effectively means a suspension in criminal proceedings stemming from the first fatal attack on a U.S. abortion provider since 2009.
The defendant, Robert Lewis Dear, 58, will transported back to a state mental hospital in Pueblo, Colorado, for restorative treatment, and his status will be reviewed again in 90 days, on Aug. 11, the judge ordered.
Martinez cited the findings of two court-appointed state psychologists who evaluated Dear and concluded he was suffering from a psychotic delusional disorder that they said rendered him mentally unfit to stand trial.
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niyad
(113,284 posts)commentary during and after that awful day.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)A Muslim man with his attitudes would be on trail for crimes associated with terrorism.
niyad
(113,284 posts)LAGC
(5,330 posts)His rambling about "baby parts" was the least of it, from all on scene accounts.
I'm not saying all (or even most) of these anti-abortion wackos are mentally ill, but this guy clearly fits the bill.
He really needs to be locked up in a secure mental health facility for the rest of his life, not a prison with sub-par treatment for mental health issues in general.
I know it's tempting to want to demonize and harshly punish individuals who commit such heinous crimes, but in cases like these where the suspect really is clearly off his rocker and suffering from psychosis-induced delusions, its more humane to try to treat and help these folks deal with their sickness in the mind.
I'm not saying he ever deserves a chance to ever be let out, but he really should be confined and treated by the mental health system, not warehoused in a penal environment with inadequate resources to help deal with his severe mental health needs.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)He said straight up he was there to "save the babies" and to get PP to "stop selling baby parts", and he killed three people.
Delusion or not, he knew he was killing people, so the law will treat him just like James Holmes, the Aurora movie-theater killer. Despite his mental illness, he will be found guilty of first degree murder, and he'll spend the rest of his life in prison. AND SHOULD.
LAGC
(5,330 posts)It really is a travesty how we neglect to treat mental illness until it gets to the point where people snap like that and end up doing things they wouldn't have otherwise done if not for the "voices" in their heads commanding them to do so.
And then instead of offering any sort of treatment after they've run afoul of the law, we just abandon these people to the overburdened criminal justice system, to wallow in their illness.
Again, I'm not saying this applies to all (or even most) of them -- other extremists like Eric Rudolph or Scott Roeder were clearly criminally culpable for their actions.
But in rare cases like these where someone clearly is acting based off hallucinations or delusions in the mind, there really ought to be special consideration versus just dumping them in the prison pit when it's really society's fault they didn't get the help they needed sooner.
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)But I think a mentally ill person who cooperates and gets medical help should have a chance to be released. JMHO
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)She just hasn't acted on it yet.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Might have been a honest and productive citizen. Never can tell what brainwashing will do to people. Thanks Foxnews machine! Bad enough when Hannity was inciting the Bundy family to revolt...how much does it take before the media stars can be held culpable? Inciting people to commit violence was a bad thing at one time, now it seems to be Trumps main platform.