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annabanana

(52,791 posts)
Thu May 12, 2016, 03:22 PM May 2016

Trump is BROKE!

That's whai I think. I think all he has left is that ugly apartment in that tower in NY. He has to go begging for campaign funds just like any other mook.

The only way he can prove me wrong is to release the damn tax files! He should be hammered relentlessly to put up or shut up.

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Trump is BROKE! (Original Post) annabanana May 2016 OP
Probably right. nt lagomorph777 May 2016 #1
Well, not broke, exactly Warpy May 2016 #2
"Broke" in millionaires terms. Atman May 2016 #6
When you owe the bank a $1000 that's your problem. When you owe $1M that's their problem. FighttheFuture May 2016 #14
I doubt he even owns the airplane. Mr.Bill May 2016 #24
^^^^this^^^^ mopinko May 2016 #7
You summed it up really well, Warpy. He said japple May 2016 #19
How much did he inherit? He's (maybe worth a couple billion) - so how much Laura PourMeADrink May 2016 #29
between 40 and 160 million in 1974 ohnoyoudidnt May 2016 #35
That should be the meme malaise May 2016 #3
Yes! What other 'facts' can we manufacture ? Bonx May 2016 #11
sessions enid602 May 2016 #4
I add another hammer blow. skip fox May 2016 #5
Or at least far less wealthy than he wants to portray himself. jeff47 May 2016 #8
Con Man Don is Wellstone ruled May 2016 #9
The Potemkin candidacies of Trump and Clinton tularetom May 2016 #10
Nothing would surprise me OwlinAZ May 2016 #18
Wrong. She got the going rate. Gomez163 May 2016 #26
Is there a rate card out there somewhere? mac56 May 2016 #33
If you need to ask the price you can't afford her Gomez163 May 2016 #34
I have believed that there never were any speeches since I first heard of speeches? LiberalArkie May 2016 #23
Maybe they confiscated phones arikara May 2016 #41
I tend to agree with you Jack Rabbit May 2016 #12
Yes! I have thought so all along. dem in texas May 2016 #13
What makes my ass want a pinch of snuff,,,,, Cryptoad May 2016 #15
The operative words' being "I think...." WinkyDink May 2016 #16
Why would a billionaire have a TV show? houston16revival May 2016 #17
good point ! Love me Laura PourMeADrink May 2016 #30
A narcisist or one that really needs the money or both. nt ohnoyoudidnt May 2016 #37
trump owns five golf courses Mosby May 2016 #20
Are you saying personally? Laura PourMeADrink May 2016 #31
all of his real estate holdings are partnerships Mosby May 2016 #36
He owns real estate and has a lot of debt. gordianot May 2016 #21
When we get to the general, I will. nt silvershadow May 2016 #22
Donald D-Bag porkified May 2016 #25
My guess is that he's wealthy but illiquid. Jim Lane May 2016 #27
Great point JL ! Everything you say is true. Explains why he will accept Laura PourMeADrink May 2016 #32
That's crazy talk girl ! But, obviously he's hiding something Laura PourMeADrink May 2016 #28
I think Trump is saving this for an attack in the General. karadax May 2016 #38
His assets are not "liquid" SoCalDem May 2016 #39
Broke like Clintons ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #40

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
2. Well, not broke, exactly
Thu May 12, 2016, 03:37 PM
May 2016

He inherited a bundle, gets royalties on the use of his name, and still has that ugly penis extender in NYC. However, his boast of being a nultibillionaire is based on how much he can leverage--you know, con bankers and other rich guys into lending him. He really doesn't get that you and I can't con bankers out of similar sums because our daddies weren't that rich.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
6. "Broke" in millionaires terms.
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

He mortgaged to the hilt, in hock to the banks for millions, but he's still living off of his name, and some equity.

The real tell was when he couldn't afford to register his own Trump airplane.

I totally agree...Trump hasn't got a gilded pot to piss in, but he plays a good game, just like any other con man.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
14. When you owe the bank a $1000 that's your problem. When you owe $1M that's their problem.
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:26 PM
May 2016

Trunp's lucky bulllshit in a nutshell.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
7. ^^^^this^^^^
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016

yup. like if i bought a whole bunch of property using govt subsidized money w little or nothing down and claimed to own all that property. leaving out the part about owing the bank more than the property is worth.
he has a long history of over paying, too.

japple

(9,824 posts)
19. You summed it up really well, Warpy. He said
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:39 PM
May 2016

"I'm so rich I can fund my own campaign...blah, blah, blah..." When someone like Donald Trump says something like that, you know the opposite is true. He is such a blowhard.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. How much did he inherit? He's (maybe worth a couple billion) - so how much
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:06 PM
May 2016

are you saying he inherited?

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
35. between 40 and 160 million in 1974
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:10 AM
May 2016

He would be worth just as much as he claims to be worth had he invested in the S&P.
https://www.quora.com/Did-Donald-Trump-inherit-a-lot-of-money-and-then-increase-his-net-worth-at-an-unremarkable-rate


In 1974 a 1,000 investment with Berkshire Hathaway would be worth 4,989,050 today.
If he had invested his inheritance in Berkshire Hathaway, he would be worth about 200 billion.

http://www.businessinsider.com/if-you-had-invested-with-warren-buffett-2014-8

So Buffet appears to be the smarter businessman who doesn't have to act like a jackass on TV and put his name on everything to try to make a buck.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
8. Or at least far less wealthy than he wants to portray himself.
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

I'm betting he makes enough money that a normal person would happily retire. But he's not a normal person.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Con Man Don is
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:48 PM
May 2016

continuing his Con. Nobody knows what his real wealth is or where it is. Tried to do a Dunn and Bradsteet on this Guy,everything seems locked. And that is were one goes for the real story,check the Guys Business Credit Rating.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. The Potemkin candidacies of Trump and Clinton
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:13 PM
May 2016

Trump has nowhere near as much money as he pretends to have, consequently he will not release his tax returns.

Clinton actually gave no speeches at Goldman Sachs or any other venue. The "speeches" were a fiction to cover the payment of bribes. Consequently, no transcripts of these imaginary speeches exist.

The entire campaign is built on bullshit. Maybe thats true for all campaigns but this time its painfully obvious.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
23. I have believed that there never were any speeches since I first heard of speeches?
Thu May 12, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

You mean to say that out of all the speeches she gave that no one ever recorded one on a cell phone? No one? Romney gave a couple and they were recorded, but never Clinton?

I really find the odds of that amazing.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
41. Maybe they confiscated phones
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:35 PM
May 2016

And searched purses and suchlike. I wouldn't put it past them, especially after Romneys thing.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
12. I tend to agree with you
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016
Broke may not be the right word, but forced to seek further funds due to being unable to self-finance completely an adequate general election campaign would make sense.

Otherwise, I think he's hiding his tax returns for the same reasons Hillary is hiding her Goldman Sachs transcripts -- to make them public might prove to be a public embarrassment and meet with public disapproval.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
13. Yes! I have thought so all along.
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:26 PM
May 2016

He may have billions, but I will guarantee that all those billions are leveraged out the wazoo.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
15. What makes my ass want a pinch of snuff,,,,,
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

All day MSM have been talking abt how if Trump will just tells us he really didn't mean all those mean things he said , then all is forgiven and everything will be Otay, for the GOP

houston16revival

(953 posts)
17. Why would a billionaire have a TV show?
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:32 PM
May 2016

He enjoys publicity more than counting his wealth?

Strange billionaire!

Mosby

(16,309 posts)
36. all of his real estate holdings are partnerships
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:36 AM
May 2016

With other entities. Further they are highly leveraged.

The only properties he owns outright are his golf/resort properties, Forbes says he has nine. They are probably worth 500-600 million.

He does not want to release his tax returns because he does not want people to see his cash flow, it's not that much, maybe 50-60 million per year.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
21. He owns real estate and has a lot of debt.
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

That is his financial plan with an occasional swindle thrown in, this political escapade is financed somewhere else. The valid question for any politician is; Who or what owns them?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
27. My guess is that he's wealthy but illiquid.
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:57 PM
May 2016

Compute his assets minus liabilities and his net worth is probably high. For self-funding a campaign, though, he probably doesn't have the cash flow for serious expenditures.

For centuries now, it's been a truism that owners of real property tend to be in debt. A big pile of money in a bank account or a CD or shares of stock will usually generate income. A piece of property won't automatically do that, and even any income that is generated will be offset by taxes, maintenance costs, etc. I'm guessing that Trump couldn't self-fund a big October ad buy out of liquid assets, but would instead have to take a loss by selling properties at fire-sale prices.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
28. That's crazy talk girl ! But, obviously he's hiding something
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:04 PM
May 2016

for sure. If I was advising him....I would just say - "Way too complex for 100% of the people to understand."

karadax

(284 posts)
38. I think Trump is saving this for an attack in the General.
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:00 AM
May 2016

He comes out with his returns which show not a huge fortune as he has boasted about. At the same time he swings hard at Clinton about her income and possible ties to the Panama papers.

His strategy will be who comes out of the pool of sewage cleanest.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
39. His assets are not "liquid"
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:22 AM
May 2016

and since it's mostly real estate and investments, the values are constantly changing.

Many super rich are often "cash-poor", but because much of what they need is bartered/given to them, I do not worry about them :eyes;

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
40. Broke like Clintons ...
Fri May 13, 2016, 05:49 AM
May 2016

... when they left the White House, barefoot and wearing rags.

They came back from financial ruin, so can Donald.

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