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Baobab

(4,667 posts)
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:32 PM May 2016

Explaining key differences between Bernie and Hillary

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Bernie wants Americans wages to go up while Hillary wants them to go down. (But doesn't like to admit it in public any more - This is a core part of WTO-GATS's global 'economic integration' strategy see http://www.ictsd.org/downloads/2008/06/gallagher.pdf http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTRANETTRADE/Resources/C13.pdf pages 278-279 https://www.princeton.edu/~pcglobal/conferences/wtoreform/Betts_Nicolaides_memo.pdf https://www.etuc.org/documents/emergency-motion-tisa http://www.southcentre.int/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/AN_SV11_The-Development-Dimension-of-the-GATS-Domestic-Regulations_EN.pdf)

Bernie wants skilled people in other countries to make more, Hillary wants them to come here to replace Americans and get paid less

Hillary wants to reverse the economic gains of the latter part of the 20th century and encourage a race to the bottom, so the wealthy's slice of the pie can keep growing. See http://www.peri.umass.edu/fileadmin/pdf/financial/fin_dumenil.pdf "Costs and benefits of neoliberalism" by Gérard Duménil, Dominique Lévy also video interview here: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=4962

Bernie would like the whole pie to keep growing but for the portion of the pie shared by all Americans to increase and the portion taken by the very rich to stop growing and start shrinking in relation to the whole (to make up for the last 30 years of losses, which will continue under Clinton see Corp Watch- What is neoliberalism - http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=376 )
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Neither of them seem willing to admit that jobs as we know them are vanishing very quickly and will never return unless we invest a lot more in education. (result can be inferred from http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-law-of-accelerating-returns )

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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
1. Explain to the Benrie echo chamber
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016

And don't insult rational people with your propaganda...and smears belong in GDP

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
5. Everything i said is factual and easy to show. you're the one calling it a smear.
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

Hillary's position seems to me to basically be quite similar to that of Michael Moore, former WTO DG and former PM of New Zealand and more recently Ambassador of New Zealand to Washington until a few months ago when he had a stroke. He seems to be recovering well, has a web site and is a fairly personable fellow. Maybe somewhere in his writing he explains his view on why wages all need to come down before they can be built up again. I personally dont agree with it and think it would be a disaster for Americans.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
6. I repeat...GDP...why is it so phucking hard to remember?
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:12 PM
May 2016

Stop ruining all of GD for everyone else.

Control-Z

(15,686 posts)
7. You need to back up each and every accusation
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:37 PM
May 2016

with links to credible sources. No right wing propaganda bs. That is how this site had always functioned. You make a statement - you back it up. Period.

I'll wait.

NightWatcher

(39,376 posts)
2. GDP GDP GDP GDP GDP GDP GDP
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, don't you people see the alert before you start a thread? It's been showing up for me for months.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
3. Has she really taken a strong position on H-1B visas?
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:04 PM
May 2016

I can't remember that.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
4. Tell me something...can you follow simple instructions? nt
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:06 PM
May 2016

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
8. I am sorry , LOCKING. Posts about the Dem primary and/or Dem candidates must be posted in GDP
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:41 AM
May 2016

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