So is Obama admin trying to help Trump get elected? Why the school bathroom announcement now?

[Jitter65]

This just gives Trump and the GOP another issue for the RW base to get hysterical over and pushes more of them to become more involved? Timing is everything, folks. This is bad timing.

[OhioBlue]

1. I thought the exact same thing when I read the announcement.

What horrible timing. People are going to go crazy over this.

[lagomorph777]

37. Perverse Potty Party Pissed him off!

and rightly so!

[BootinUp]

2. Because its the right thing to do

and no it will not help Trump get elected.

[pampango]

13. Damn Democratic president doing the 'right thing' without triangulating its effect on the election.

Obama has simply never learned the value of fear and hate when it comes to scaring up votes at election time.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

24. Also

Trump doesn't care about the issue to his credit (I loathe to say)

[Rex]

46. Beat me to it, since when do we do what the GOP wants?

Trump stands no chance.

[BootinUp]

48. Being a SWM and just over 50, it took me awhile

but I am over that kind of thinking on this type of issue.

[Rex]

49. I am SWM, 45 and just cannot understand the uproar. This is not a new situation.

Trans folks been using the bathroom all this time without the end of the world...yet when GOPers notice, it becomes the end of the world! They lack the ability to use common sense imo.

I am tired of their garbage and support my POTUS in trying to peel back decades of GOP malfeasance. I've never been prouder of President Obama in standing up to these red state governor bullies.

[BootinUp]

53. I think the uproar is predictable because common sense,

is rarely used by the pukes anymore. But either way, I am happy to say that I also am proud of our President and our party for standing up to it.

[Rex]

61. This is why I correct people that say both parties are the same.

No. Not even close.

[braddy]

3. What announcement?

[BootinUp]

4. Link to NYT article.

http://nyti.ms/23LPhY0

[braddy]

6. Thanks.

[jberryhill]

5. Yeah, he's got no political sense whatsoever

I mean, what kind of idiot would think a guy with his name could win a presidential election. It was really foolish of him to have run. There's no way he'd win.

No political sense at all, that guy.

[840high]

7. Agree.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

15. I'm not surprised you do

Just gimme a heads up when you pull the mask off

[840high]

16. Your opinion matters zero to me.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

18. No shit. I wouldn't expect anyone on Democratic Underground

.....means zip to you....

[840high]

19. Differences in opinion mean

zip to you. 'nite

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

20. That's your gimmick, bud, you said mine meant zero

Differences in opinion do matter, and yours have made you pretty transparent.

[840high]

21. I'm not your bud. Your way or

the highway eh? Happy to put you on ignore.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

22. I'd like to hear why you are so opposed to the president's....

....decision beyond "agree" with the concerned OP. I'm sure it's high-ly enlightening.

[Skittles]

32. I am eagerly awaiting that explanation too

yes INDEED

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

63. Keep waiting, obviously.

Sad, ain't it?

[Skittles]

69. I have noticed

when you call them on it, they do tend to stutter

[Egnever]

8. How long should he have waited?

What makes you so sure that it is a losing position?

Overall, the public is roughly split, with 43 percent saying they are closer to the view that people should use public restrooms "according to the biological sex on their birth certificate" compared to 41 percent who opt for "according to the gender with which they identify."

My bet is the majority of those opposed live in red states anyway.

God forbid he does the right thing.



This president never gets a break damned if he does damned if he doesn't

[uppityperson]

9. Would it be better closer to the general election? Or should he not do this at all?

I am curious about your opinion.

[herding cats]

10. So, it's better to ignore civil rights since it's an election year?

Really? Take a minute and think about that before you reply. Ok?

[X_Digger]

11. And on that day, Obama counted all his fucks. Alas, there were none to count. n/t

[msongs]

12. people who care about this issue have already made up their minds nt

[phleshdef]

14. Oh for fuck sake, if you aren't a trans-phobic ass, you might as well be with this OP.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. This sounds so familiar.

It's déjà vu all over!

No, no, transgender people and their allies, the "timing" isn't right for your civil rights.

No, no, transgender people and their allies, it is politically expedient.

No, no, transgender people and their allies, you can already use the bathroom.

No, no, transgender people and their allies, someday you will get to be treated equally, but just not now. Please wait.

No, no, transgender people and their allies, this will cost us votes.

No, no, transgender people and their allies, do you really have it all that bad? What about other minority groups?

No, no, transgender people and their allies, more time is needed to sort this all out.

No, no, transgender people and their allies, Rome wasn't built in a day, so why the need to start now?

No, no, transgender people and their allies, why do you need "special rights"?

No, no, transgender people and their allies, ...

...and the nauseating, bigoted list goes on and on, much like it did just a few years back in regards to gay and lesbian people. I am seeing the same fucking bigoted "excuses" and the same rationale, "I got mine, why do you need yours now?!"

I stand with President Obama's decision!!

I stand with my transgender brothers and sisters!!

[Bluenorthwest]

42. I'm with you.

And with the President.

[NuclearDem]

43. /thread

[bullwinkle428]

44. BINGO - think 2004 and 2006, and the marriage equality rulings.

[DemocraticWing]

45. Absolutely.

I'm amazed that we have to go through this again on DU. Civil Rights are not up for debate!

[Turin_C3PO]

55. Great post!

I remember around 2004-2008 the Du'ers who were trying to rationalize treating gay people as second class citizens. It was disgusting and despicable.

[Sissyk]

60. This!!! N/t

[QC]

64. Bingo. It's an old song that was never very good to start with. n/t

[herding cats]

65. As always, you said it so much better than I ever could.

Thank you!

[MillennialDem]

23. If this gets alerted, oh well... but screw off. Trans kids have it hard enough.

[Person 2713]

25. Disgusting post. Decent People read this link Not even a trump issue hope you know that

Duers hide behind trump with their hand ringing and prejudices but guess what's trump view??
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-transgender-bathrooms-222257

Trump : Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want

[Purveyor]

26. And then there is this: US Planning New Wave Of Deportation Raids: Report

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141448179

US planning new wave of deportation raids: report
Source: THE HILL by Jesse Byrnes

The Obama administration is planning a new round of raids to deport those residing in the United States illegally, Reuters reported Thursday. U.S. immigration officials are reportedly planning to conduct the raids in May and June, deporting hundreds of individuals who came to the U.S. from Central America.

The arrests will be focused on mothers and children who've already been told to leave the U.S. and minors who entered the U.S. without a guardian and are now adults, the report said.

Officials apprehended 121 individuals following raids early this year in Georgia, Texas and North Carolina. The Obama administration caught flak for those raids from immigration activists and some Democrats, including presidential candidates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

U.S. Border Patrol apprehended 32,000 family units — mothers and children traveling together and illegally entering into the U.S. — between October and March, more than twice the number for the same period the previous year, according to Reuters. Officials have been using raids to curb border crossing after a wave of migrants illegally entered the U.S. through its southern border in 2014, straining resources of the federal government.

[LostOne4Ever]

27. Because, unlike those who have no issue compromising human rights, Obama is a decent human being.

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]I am so very proud to be an Obama Supporter!



BEST President of my lifetime![/font]

[DetlefK]

28. Didn't Trump say that he's FOR LGBT-rights on this issue?

[mnhtnbb]

29. Hit and run post. Read to the end of the linked NY Times article. Here's a quote:

Before ending his presidential bid last week, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas charged that Donald J. Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, and Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee, “both agree that grown men should be allowed to use the little girls’ restroom.”

It's the Cruz supporters--the evangelical, Bible thumping, right-wing "Christians" who are opposed to equal rights for LGBT--who have fomented this issue. Mat Staver (who represented Kim Davis), and his Liberty Counsel organization has been behind all the recent legislation to prohibit equal rights for LGBT people.

[Jitter65]

34. I'm hitting and running. I asked a question about timing of announcing of a very sensitive issue.

Yes, I want to win in November and anything that weakens our position is of concern to me. Even positions that I agree with. Do you folks even listen to what is being said around you?

[Bluenorthwest]

40. A sensitive issue? To who? To right wing fanatics, that's who.

I read this OP and I have to offer credit to the Glorious Amnesty which allows you to spew this shit in the name of Hillary Clinton....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1395246

[BlueStater]

30. So he should only do the right thing when it's politically convenient for him?

Fuck that kind of thinking.

[Skittles]

31. it's never really the right time, is it?

[Rex]

51. Never ever...just wait another decade that seems to work out very well for all of us.

Keeed...KICK THEIR ASSES!

[Skittles]

68. all progress should be celebrated

these "bad timing" folks just do not think the issue is important enough, and for that they do need their ignorant ass kicked; yes INDEED

[randome]

33. Follow the Republicans' lead on this: do nothing but sit tight for as long as possible.

It's only fair that we pay our representatives to do as little as they can get away with.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[Jitter65]

35. Told you so. Watch the roll out of the backlash...it's all over the media and adds an arrow in

Trump's quiver that was totally unnecessary at this point.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

62. Told us what?

The Texas Lt Governor is raising a stink? THESE FUCKERS CRY ABOUT EVERYTHING! WHO CARES????

[L. Coyote]

36. NO.

And now because now is when this is needed. Isn't that obvious enough.
Not everything in the universe it tied to Trump even though he is the center of the M$M universe.

Not to mention, people don't vote in bathrooms.

[Bluenorthwest]

38. Obama did the right thing, while you do the right wing.

I can't even believe this sort of anti civil rights posturing is welcomed on DU. Obviously the OP is a Hillary supporter but even in that crowd civil rights and the President get some respect while this seems to be simply bashing at Obama using transgender persons as a weapon.

[alarimer]

39. He doesn't triangulate.

Unlike some other candidate in the race.

[MrScorpio]

41. What?

No. Just no.

[DemocraticWing]

47. "So is Johnson admin trying to help Goldwater get elected? Why the Civil Rights Act now?"

Same argument, different era...

[Rex]

50. Skittles will kick all their asses! Worry not about the GOP!

YES INDEED! Skittles got this!

[etherealtruth]

52. I am thinking to protect transgender folk

Trump already has most of the bigot vote

[Agnosticsherbet]

54. We should hold off on pursuing equal rights for all because bigots will be offended?

I find that notion as offensive as those who things Bathrooms are sacred space that must conform to genital rules.

Democrats should not discriminate.

Obama administration issues guidance on transgender access to school bathrooms

[bunnies]

56. Trump agrees with Obama on this issue. You can stop fretting now. nt

[stone space]

57. If we allow Trump to be used as an excuse for violations of human and civil rights, ...

...he wins by default.

What else should we do to appease Trump and his fans?

[Skinner]

58. Politically this is a good issue for us.

And it is also the right thing to to.

A win-win.

[gratuitous]

59. In answer to "why now"?

The answer is that the Department of Justice and the Department of Education have received inquiries from school district across the country asking for guidance on how to proceed in the face of yet another ginned-up nontroversy. In effect, if the school districts give in to the shoutycrackers, do they risk losing federal education dollars by being in violation of Title VII?

The Obama administration is providing constituent service, not trying to get Trump elected.

[NYC Liberal]

66. Have you considered...

This just gives Trump and the GOP another issue for the RW base to get hysterical over and pushes more of them to become more involved?

...that this announcement will also energize liberals and progressives who will be that much more eager to ensure that this progress continues in the next administration?

[craigmatic]

67. Forget the timing you're talking about something that is minor compared to

police brutality but Obama has full throated support for the TS/TG community when it comes to bathrooms in schools. This is not urgent in terms of life and death. It seems to have come out of nowhere and makes Obama look like he's been paid off by the TS/TG community.

[LiberalElite]

70. I see this as an extension of civil rights so,

[ileus]

71. He loves sticking them in the eye...