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Ex Lurker

(3,812 posts)
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:49 AM May 2016

High schools and colleges should hold two graduations

One for the graduates who have family members who know how to conduct themselves at these events. The other for the graduates with relatives who want to hoot and holler, blow airhorns, and otherwise make fools of themselves when Junior gets his name called -Good grief. I've come to hate these things.

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High schools and colleges should hold two graduations (Original Post) Ex Lurker May 2016 OP
Don't fall off that high horse. You might get hurt. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #1
The loudness drowns out the name of the next graduate in line. nt tblue37 May 2016 #4
Yes. I just got home from a University graduation exercise. Mister Ed May 2016 #7
Since I have to attend two every year I can tell you it has gotten much worse. redstatebluegirl May 2016 #26
First world problems uppityperson May 2016 #2
Not unlike the other 99% of GD threads Major Nikon May 2016 #6
I agree. It's like "Bubba's the first one in our family to graduate highschool!!!!" lindysalsagal May 2016 #3
Sorry, but I find this silly. It is graduation. People are happy, excited, & proud. AgadorSparticus May 2016 #5
The problem is relatives and friends acting like total assholes. SheilaT May 2016 #8
Sounds like the master of ceremonies is screwing up yeoman6987 May 2016 #9
If everybody was loud and they had to wait the ceremony would take 6 hours. Travis_0004 May 2016 #14
I agree but usually it is a few throughout the ceremony yeoman6987 May 2016 #24
Nope, not a solution. MrsMatt May 2016 #15
Agree. At my daughter's university graduation last year LibDemAlways May 2016 #10
While I agree, people should be aware that every student.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #13
Several minutes??!?!?!! Every graduation I have gone to, each student gets 15 sec tops? AgadorSparticus May 2016 #17
Yes, they are still yelling MrsMatt May 2016 #33
I totally agree. madaboutharry May 2016 #11
In some ways, I'm glad that in many places, Ilsa May 2016 #12
I hate that shit. linuxman May 2016 #16
I love the hoot and holler. They have every right to be proud and excited. bigwillq May 2016 #18
so your right to cheer is more important than the next students right to have his name heard? Travis_0004 May 2016 #20
That wasn't the point expressed by the OP. bigwillq May 2016 #21
It's not that but the selfishness treestar May 2016 #25
I agree. phylny May 2016 #19
Decorum? dumbcat May 2016 #27
What makes you think that it was the "proles" behaving badly, Nye Bevan May 2016 #30
Because I watched them. dumbcat May 2016 #32
I don't like graduations, period. rug May 2016 #22
Just skip them and play golf instead. AngryAmish May 2016 #23
Just this past Thursday I attended a graduation dumbcat May 2016 #28
They should announce ahead of time that such behavior will not be tolerated, Nye Bevan May 2016 #29
Well well you exposed a lot of classism here @ du ...."Bubba"' " low class idiots...." Proles Person 2713 May 2016 #31
Taught High School for 30 years.... seniors, mostly.... Bigmack May 2016 #34

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
7. Yes. I just got home from a University graduation exercise.
Sat May 14, 2016, 01:29 AM
May 2016

I felt sorry for the families of graduates whose names were drowned out by rubes still blowing airhorns, screaming, and yelling "woot, woot!" for the previous grad.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
26. Since I have to attend two every year I can tell you it has gotten much worse.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:48 AM
May 2016

I may be old, but I miss the days when they didn't scream and yell like crazy people. Celebrate with your young person after the ceremony. Lots of older grandparents can't stand so they can see over you to see their grandson or granddaughter who is right behind your newly minted graduate.

It is a circus, not a solemn ceremony anymore.

lindysalsagal

(20,654 posts)
3. I agree. It's like "Bubba's the first one in our family to graduate highschool!!!!"
Sat May 14, 2016, 01:03 AM
May 2016

Long, tedious, painful.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
5. Sorry, but I find this silly. It is graduation. People are happy, excited, & proud.
Sat May 14, 2016, 01:11 AM
May 2016

Let them be. There are far worse things to be irritated over....like for example, slow drivers in the left lane. Totally understandable if you went postal on that.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
8. The problem is relatives and friends acting like total assholes.
Sat May 14, 2016, 01:38 AM
May 2016

And denying another grad of recognition.

It's NOT people being happy, excited, & proud. It's acting like idiots.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
9. Sounds like the master of ceremonies is screwing up
Sat May 14, 2016, 02:26 AM
May 2016

The person should wait til the deserved family gets done and continue names. Easy solution.

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
15. Nope, not a solution.
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:06 AM
May 2016

In my city, large high school graduation ceremonies are held in civic auditoriums, and are frequently back-to-back (my daughter's last year was sandwiched between two other commencements).

It's a timing issue; your solution would create a situation where the first ceremony would go over the allotted time, which would push back the start time for the following commencements.

If you're only renting the facility for 2 hours, you have to finish in that time frame.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
10. Agree. At my daughter's university graduation last year
Sat May 14, 2016, 02:34 AM
May 2016

a large and loud family sitting directly in front of us stood throughout the ceremony holding a huge banner. They yelled, screamed, hooted, and hollered inappropriately throughout. I asked them politely to please sit down so my 92-year-old mother could see her granddaughter accept her diploma, but they ignored me. They were obnoxious and acting like idiots. Was so glad when that ceremony was over. Ruined by morons.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
13. While I agree, people should be aware that every student....
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:08 AM
May 2016

....deserves their moment, and carrying on for several minutes is simply fucking rude to every other family trying to enjoy their kids moment

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
17. Several minutes??!?!?!! Every graduation I have gone to, each student gets 15 sec tops?
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:48 AM
May 2016

Even then, graduation still takes forever. So the hooting and hollering lasts at most 15 seconds. And even then, it is just a loud "wooo!" and then they move on to the next student. How do they go on for minutes? The next student comes up and the next family goes woo. And maybe this is the part that I don't get. Are they still yelling when the next name is called? Because that IS rude. I have never seen that.

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
33. Yes, they are still yelling
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

and blaring air horns.

I've experienced it; just last year when my daughter graduated h.s.

madaboutharry

(40,203 posts)
11. I totally agree.
Sat May 14, 2016, 03:30 AM
May 2016

It is very rude and obnoxious. People behave inappropriately even after the principal asks them to remain quite. I don't understand it.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
12. In some ways, I'm glad that in many places,
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:59 AM
May 2016

there is a limited number of tickets for guests. At least everyone is limited to the same representation.

I feel your pain. It's a moment that can't be repeated, and someone thinks their kid doesn't know that they are proud of them, so they make asses of themselves.

I think the schools should screen for obnoxious devices, like noisemakers and banners, at entry. Ask people to show a little class and restraint.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
16. I hate that shit.
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:36 AM
May 2016

Some family of low-class idiots hoots and screams, bangs pans, whatever, thus drowning out the name of the next person in line. I get it. You're totally shocked and amazed that someone from your gene pool made it through High-school. You know what? The family before or after you might be attending their first graduation too, but they have the situational awareness and decorum to hold their shit together and not drown out the next graduate's name. Some people ruin it or everyone.



 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
18. I love the hoot and holler. They have every right to be proud and excited.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

It's a happy day. Let people be happy.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
21. That wasn't the point expressed by the OP.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

OP objected to the hoot and holler. OP didn't mention your point. Folks should be respectful of the next student, but there's nothing wrong with the hoot and holler, which was my point in my reply.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. It's not that but the selfishness
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:39 AM
May 2016

of your happiness being so much greater than others don't deserve theirs.

Why that's hard to see I don't know.


phylny

(8,378 posts)
19. I agree.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

We were at a graduation ceremony yesterday for students who earned their Masters degree. You'd think it was a football game. There's supposed to be a level of decorum, but there isn't.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
30. What makes you think that it was the "proles" behaving badly,
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

as opposed to the "upper class"? Seems that you have a fairly low opinion of "proles".

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
32. Because I watched them.
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:25 AM
May 2016

Do you have a problem with the term, "proles?" It was used extensively in both academic and fictional writings.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
22. I don't like graduations, period.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016

The schools should just open up the field or the gym and have a gigantic party.

They can have tvs scattered around with public figures mouthing platitudes, at a low volume.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
28. Just this past Thursday I attended a graduation
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:02 AM
May 2016

of the School of Engineering of Texas A&M University. It was in a large arena, and 900+ graduates. The names were read one right after another, and I could hear each one. It took over two hours to go through the names. There were some whoops and airhorns at some names, but did not last more than a second or so. I was actually pleasantly surprised, compared to some High School graduations I have attended.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
29. They should announce ahead of time that such behavior will not be tolerated,
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:02 AM
May 2016

and have anyone who fails to comply ejected. I hate when a minority of rude and inconsiderate people ruin it for everyone else.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
34. Taught High School for 30 years.... seniors, mostly....
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

... and some of the graduation ceremonies were circuses. Drunk parents, air horns, beer in the stands... And this was in a upper-middle-class district.

Our school got shitcanned from one venue for rowdiness and trash.

If you ever wonder how easy it is to fall into authoritarianism.. this is a good example. The admin and staff - seldom on the same team - got together to save our school's reputation. "Crackdown" is a mild term.
Kids were informed - mostly informally - that the graduation was for everybody, not just the loudest, and that some kid's granny deserved to hear her grandkid's name called. And she should not be subjected to abuse. Admin hired off-duty cops, and they actually busted people for public intoxication. Teachers who had been mild and meek started cracking down, too. When the wrestling coach goes down onto the floor and crooks a finger - come here - at a kid who is being an asshole in the ranks, it's embarrassing to the grad. When the old-lady English teacher gives a kid a stinkeye... most kids understand.
Kids were told - informally - that their diploma and transcript could "get lost" if they fucked up. Kids weren't searched, exactly, but a lot of the teachers at the ceremony were suddenly very "huggy" and "touchy-feely". You'd be amazed at what kids were carrying.

All kinds of police-state stuff.

And it worked.

We got our reputation back, ceremonies were survivable again, and we were able to loosen up a bit. Our graduations stopped making the local papers, too.

So.... call me a fascist if you want, but we did fix an untenable situation.

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