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shadowrider

(4,941 posts)
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:43 PM May 2016

I have no dog in this fight. My vote is mine. I know which Dem candidate I support. That said

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as a former member of the military who had a top secret security clearance, had anyone done what Hillary has done, they would have been in prison YEARS ago, for a long term sentence.

If anyone today, starts today to do what she has done, and got caught, they'd go to prison.

Now, it's one thing to support your candidate, whoever that may be, but it's quite another to deny this is a serious investigation and not a "security review".

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

To clarify my "no dog in this fight" comment, if I admit I support Hillary, I'll be attacked by Bernie supporters. If I admit I support Bernie, I'll be attacked by Hillary supporters. I enjoy the every day back and forth here and want no part of alerts, arguments and mean spirited talk, so I keep my mouth shut.

This is NOT a condemnation of Hillary, I'm simply stating that anyone else, not named Clinton, would be doing hard time.

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I have no dog in this fight. My vote is mine. I know which Dem candidate I support. That said (Original Post) shadowrider May 2016 OP
Exactly.She absolutely would be fired already if not for who she is. wendylaroux May 2016 #1
And what, exactly, would that be that she did that would have put her in prison? Let me guess: Squinch May 2016 #2
My clearance expired about 1980 shadowrider May 2016 #3
You weren't emailing anyone when your clearance expired. MADem May 2016 #12
He probably saw all those emails sharp_stick May 2016 #4
Yes. That's it. You win a prize shadowrider May 2016 #5
Since email has not really been in existence for centuries, a lot has transpired. Thinkingabout May 2016 #6
He doesn't count. Because reasons. Squinch May 2016 #18
Another double standard huh, got it. Thinkingabout May 2016 #20
I'm calling horse manure. Aristus May 2016 #7
So you have completed your investigaton, decided the case as a one man jury, and passed sentance? FLPanhandle May 2016 #8
For about the 10-millionth time, Hillary Clinton did NOTHING illegal - NOTHING. She will.... George II May 2016 #9
Maybe this is about Area 51. You know, with all that high level security clearance and all. Squinch May 2016 #15
Nothing will happen to HRC. She is at the level where nothing could happen to her. If Jamie LiberalArkie May 2016 #19
More RW talking point? Thinkingabout May 2016 #22
More left wing really. How much time did Cheney or Powell or GWB serve? LiberalArkie May 2016 #23
Yes there is a lot of LW with RW sources. Thinkingabout May 2016 #24
How long has this investigation been going on? StayFrosty May 2016 #10
We know (by admission) that the Benghazi committee was driven by political motivations Jemmons May 2016 #16
The FBI being in it for political reasons is not a suggestion. It's a fact. beastie boy May 2016 #21
For someone with "no dog in this fight", you sure Laurian May 2016 #11
Bullshit. Plain and simple. nt LaydeeBug May 2016 #13
This should be in GD-P TeamPooka May 2016 #14
i sent an alert Mosby May 2016 #17

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
1. Exactly.She absolutely would be fired already if not for who she is.
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:48 PM
May 2016

and if she is able to walk,[which she will]. that will say so much about the state of our govt. now.

Squinch

(59,453 posts)
2. And what, exactly, would that be that she did that would have put her in prison? Let me guess:
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:50 PM
May 2016

you can't tell us because of your top secret security clearance.

shadowrider

(4,941 posts)
3. My clearance expired about 1980
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:52 PM
May 2016

It doesn't take away from the FBI investigation (not security review).

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. You weren't emailing anyone when your clearance expired.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:11 PM
May 2016

Unless you were one of a small cadre on ARPANET, and that wasn't a classified platform.

And your command didn't have any "IT" divisions either.

Classified Material Control has come a long way 36 years.

Also, in case you are unclear, Hillary Clinton was not in the military. In fact, as first chair in the cabinet, her department took precedence over DOD. All that notwithstanding, the rules and regulations for DOD are not the same as those for the Department of State. It's not "one size fits all."

There was no requirement for Clinton to use State Department equipment while she was SECSTATE. Those rules changed AFTER she departed.

The Republicans are invested in this charade, and Gowdy Doody time as well. I do agree with Bernie Sanders on one issue: Nobody cares about her damn emails.



sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
4. He probably saw all those emails
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:52 PM
May 2016

that the Russian hacker dude says that he got.

shadowrider

(4,941 posts)
5. Yes. That's it. You win a prize
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:53 PM
May 2016

except for those e-mails that cannot be released because they threaten national security.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Since email has not really been in existence for centuries, a lot has transpired.
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016

Now as a military man, Colin Powell was a military man for many years, rose in rank and was SOS also. He used email sources which was not protected. Sent email thru those unprotected sources, had emails which was not classified when sent and later the classification was changed. In fact recently he even spoke about number of classified changes. I am not sure he has been "indicted' and sentenced to prison, just saying.

Squinch

(59,453 posts)
18. He doesn't count. Because reasons.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:36 PM
May 2016

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
20. Another double standard huh, got it.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

Aristus

(72,129 posts)
7. I'm calling horse manure.
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

Republicans in Congress have been slavering like rabid dogs, desperately trying to find anything, anything, which which to charge Hillary Clinton. They couldn't. They couldn't even make something up that was plausible enough to stick.

So if Republicans in Congress weren't able to charge her with a crime, I'm not going to trust their disingenuous surrogates on DU.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
8. So you have completed your investigaton, decided the case as a one man jury, and passed sentance?
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:05 PM
May 2016

Amazing.

Aren't you special?

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. For about the 10-millionth time, Hillary Clinton did NOTHING illegal - NOTHING. She will....
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:05 PM
May 2016

....NEVER be "indicted", charged with a crime, or censured. Get over it.

Squinch

(59,453 posts)
15. Maybe this is about Area 51. You know, with all that high level security clearance and all.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:23 PM
May 2016

LiberalArkie

(19,775 posts)
19. Nothing will happen to HRC. She is at the level where nothing could happen to her. If Jamie
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

Diamond shot and killed someone on 5th Ave on national TV, nothing would happen to him. If a SOS or president was to lie for economic reasons to get the U.S. into a war, nothing would happen to them.

If there were movies of Bill Clinton with a 12 year old, nothing would happen to him.

Nothing happens to people of that level. It makes no difference if she broke the law or not, nothing will happen.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
22. More RW talking point?
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:43 PM
May 2016

LiberalArkie

(19,775 posts)
23. More left wing really. How much time did Cheney or Powell or GWB serve?
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
24. Yes there is a lot of LW with RW sources.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

StayFrosty

(237 posts)
10. How long has this investigation been going on?
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

You'd think that by now, if she were guilty as some here are saying, then she should have been indicted months ago

This is turning out be Benghazi 2.0

Jemmons

(711 posts)
16. We know (by admission) that the Benghazi committee was driven by political motivations
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:25 PM
May 2016

Are you suggesting that the Federal Bureau of Inquiry is in it for political reasons?

 

beastie boy

(13,283 posts)
21. The FBI being in it for political reasons is not a suggestion. It's a fact.
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

They are investigating Hillary's server at the politically motivated request of politically motivated Trey Gowdy and his committee whose members openly admitted to being in it for political reasons.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
11. For someone with "no dog in this fight", you sure
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

dumped a lot of bullshit on one particular candidate and you absolutely did write a condemnation of Hillary.

....and closing your post by saying, "I keep my mouth shut" is absurd.

This makes no sense.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
13. Bullshit. Plain and simple. nt
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:15 PM
May 2016
 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
14. This should be in GD-P
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:18 PM
May 2016
 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
17. i sent an alert
Sat May 14, 2016, 05:35 PM
May 2016

The jury voted 3-4 to leave the OP.

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