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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJennifer Lawrence wanted to say two words to Donald Trump
?itok=mnq_p1ucWell, we know Jennifer Lawrence wont be voting for Donald Trump this coming presidential election.
During her appearance on The Graham Norton Show with Johnny Depp and her X-Men: Apocalypse costar James McAvoy, Norton asked whether she ever met Trump, the current frontrunner for the GOP nomination. She didnt, but came close.
I was at a concert that I heard he was attending. So I had my full security, I was like, Find Donald Trump, she said. I was adamant on finding him and making a video of me going, Hey, Trump. F you!
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http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/15/jennifer-lawrence-donald-trump-comments-get-round-applause-graham-norton-show
longship
(40,416 posts)"So I go, and he goes, and she goes... etc."
What is going? I mean other than an illustration of abject ignorance and utterly useless corruption of language. Like Valley girl talk!
I say, "Fuck you, Donald Trump!"
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Fighting against and policing grammar and "proper" English is a product of classism and racism.
NJCher
(35,667 posts)Said the English teacher.
I assure you, I teach English to students from all walks of life (well, except the 2 per cent), and every single student would like to have a command of the English language.
Having rudimentary skills condemns one to a life where they are affected by classism and racism. What are you doing? Out fighting for ignorance?
Know what I spent a good part of my Saturday (yesterday) doing? Working with minority students who had studied vocabulary and persuasive writing all semester long. They were in a competition to determine the winner of who had mastery over the nearly 1000 words they had studied. Each week they made flashcards to study their words. Each week I checked in their homework (again, on Saturday) to determine who was doing the work and who wasn't.
This program provides scholarships and an academic boost the students who are financially handicapped. If the student does the work, the student can get a scholarship, plus additional assistance in getting into a far more prestigious college than many had ever dreamed of.
The competition was held in an auditorium at a law school. The students were dressed in professional attire, and so were the teachers and staff of the nonprofit that administers this project.
Cher
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Touching story, glad you're doing good work. after they learn the basics they can start learning colloquialisms and slang, and all sorts of other fun things you can do with the English language, which is constantly evolving. You can tell them how many words and phrases that the greats of literature like Shakespeare just made up, and now we use every day.
I suggest you visit the Sociology department and have a conversation about African American Vernacular English, and how, even though you would fail a student for using it, it follows the same patterns and grammar rules as your "proper" English.
But you're right, teaching kids English as a second language should cover the basics before advanced stuff. Good work there
longship
(40,416 posts)Contractions... Basic English.
3catwoman3
(23,980 posts)...played. I am a pediatric nurse practitioner, but what I call my "inner English teacher" is always on duty."
You might enjoy this little item I found years ago:
Ode To Spellcheck
I have a spelling chequer.
It came with my PC.
It planely marks four my revue,
Miss takes eye can knot sea.
I've run this poem threw it,
And I'm shore your glad two no.
Its wonder full in every whey.
My chequer tolled mi sew.
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)There used to be humans spellchecking newspapers. Now that it done by improved versions of MS, you do find things like "I have a spelling chequer"
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Grammar policing reveals much more about one side than the other.
Care to engage the actual content? Or just nibbling at the red herring in the subject?
longship
(40,416 posts)There is no "goes" as a substitute for "says" and it's "idiom" not "idom".
For Christ sakes, language is not about obfuscating. (Maybe folks do not understand that word,or the difference.)
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)and looked down on the peasants that used those Old English words in public.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
longship
(40,416 posts)I would suggest "idiotisms" as a suitable substitution, but that might be a source of confusion.
My best to you. However you "go", er post, I suggest that you use normal language if you want to be understood. Making shit up does not work very well, it seems.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)You knew exactly what she conveyed, which is the primary use for language. Your comment about it being like "Valley girl talk" revealed a root in sexism.
And again, you knew exactly what she was saying.
You also knew exactly what I meant, even though I misspelled it, revealing you're more in this to trap people and feel superior, so back to classism.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Was Hitler's speechwriter the only real grammar Nazi?
longship
(40,416 posts)Maybe you can understand such babble. But it is only babble.
Drops mic.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Was that last brandy one too many?
<Picks up mic and puts it back on the stand>
longship
(40,416 posts)My question remains. "What did Hitler go?"
If you are confused by such phrasing, just maybe you get my point.
Drops mic again. As always, it stays dropped.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)You're still failing to make sense, regardless of how you think a "mic drop" is supposed to work.
Might I suggest Strunk and White's Elements of Style ?
It's a short read, and it will help.
Just sayin'...
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)He hates veggies
longship
(40,416 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)...because every region has its colloquial way of saying things that are not grammatically correct. Get off your god damn high horse.
longship
(40,416 posts)Sheesh!
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)My generation use "like" the same way.
Funny how Grammar Nazis don't understand how language works.
longship
(40,416 posts)And how does one make any sense out of it if such a use is generally adopted?
My response #19 is an exemplar of the issue, totally missed by the respondent. This seems like an intent to use language to obscure, or to be somehow clever, in ones own mind. In reality, it just shows ignorance. Valley girl talk.
No that is not sexist. Everybody knows about valley girls. There were even Hollywood movies about that cultural weirdness, to say nothing of their iconic mangling of language.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)In addition to showing yourself to be pretentious as hell and are one of those people who annoy everyone by only talking in a formal, stilted manner.
The verb in that context doesn't really mean anything outside of indicating that the person is quoting another person.
Initech
(100,070 posts)tom_kelly
(959 posts)But I don't know who she is.
Leith
(7,809 posts)She has been in
Winter's Bone
The Hunger Games movies
American Hustle
The X-Men movies
Joy
and several more. She's a terrific actress.
tom_kelly
(959 posts)I don't watch too much of the teevee box and refuse to pay $15 to fall asleep in a movie. I remember laughing at my father when he didn't know who the famous people were when I was young. Well, that's me now.
Leith
(7,809 posts)My favorite genre of movies is action, with some humor thrown in, so movies like the X-Men series is right up my alley. When it comes to music, with few exceptions (like Muse and Fun), I don't know a thing past the early 1990s.
Confession: I fell asleep in the theater watching Guardians of the Galaxy. We got the blu-ray and I fell asleep again. Now I will never know how they escaped from the prison.
Mira
(22,380 posts)never had an acting lesson, is in her very early twenties, and won a best actress Oscar for Silver Linings Playbook.
longship
(40,416 posts)She's a babbling idiot.
Mira
(22,380 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Is she an English teacher making those mistakes? What a ridiculous thing to waste so many posts on. Who freeking cares?
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)were magnificent in it ...
Mira
(22,380 posts)she, Cooper, Robert de Niro, and Jacki Weaver all had nominations for Oscars, unprecedented that all principals of the movie were so honored. Only Jennifer Lawrence won.
trof
(54,256 posts)Bergman was terrific.
Hepburn, maybe Liz.
Lately?
Streep, Sarandon, Geena Davis.
Successful?
Yes.
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)Boy do we disagree.
We disagree on Hepburn and really disagree on Lawrence. She's the absolute cream of the new talent. Range, likeability, can go with a variety of looks and eras.
But, that's why they make more than one kind of movie, right?
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)She won an Oscar for that movie! Great!
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)nm
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Angel Martin
(942 posts)Aye no them awl too bee fore starr masterpeaces of the sinema cannon
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Never heard of her either.
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Leith
(7,809 posts)Lawrence's page:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2225369/?ref_=nv_sr_1
I go to imdb a lot.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
pampango
(24,692 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)He said Jennifer just asked Donald out on a date.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Trump will have her blacklisted in Movie, MUsic and TV Land!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Which two words?
kairos12
(12,860 posts)U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)No, I'm not talking about myself.
Mendocino
(7,488 posts)tblue37
(65,341 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)Jennifer Lawrence has minions who do her bidding. That's cool.