Trump calls Elizabeth Warren, "Pocahontas".

[UCmeNdc]

GOP presumptive nominee Donald Trump referred to Sen. Elizabeth Warren (d-ma) as "Pocahontas" in an interview with New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, she wrote in a piece published Saturday.

Trump told Dowd that he had not been asked by House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) in his meeting with him last week to tone down his rhetoric directed at women.

Dowd also asked him if he had been criticized by Republicans for his Twitter feud with Warren.

"You mean Pocahontas?” Trump shot back.

I'm so glad he's decided he's going to act more "presidential" now.


http://crooksandliars.com/2016/05/trump-begs-elizabeth-warren-kick-his-butt

[BlueStater]

1. Whatever, Donald.

You look like a cheeto and get a boner when you think about your daughter.

[CentralMass]

2. Who gives a crap what comes out Trump's mouth.

[Smarmie Doofus]

3. LOL.

I *love* Warren and loathe Trump ( and Trumpism; and CLINTONISM, for that matter).

But it's not a bad line. If Clinton's fan club can't see the wit there, and the edge of it, they are in for a LOOOOOOOOONG road to November.

[BillZBubb]

7. I agree, it is humorous, it's just the source that is loathesome.

Trump is VERY good at this sort of needling attack. It is effective for him and he is quick on his feet. The Democratic candidate had better be ready for it.

One of the trump quips that I really liked was when jeb? in their debate to said his mother was the strongest woman in the world. Trump immediately replied "Then she should be running!". jeb? was destroyed.

[Skittles]

10. it's humorous?

he is running for president and sounds like pre-teen - there's nothing humorous about it

[BootinUp]

17. +1

[Skittles]

18. I cannot understand people who are entertained by Trump

the man is a narcissistic bully - he makes me sick

[BootinUp]

19. They are afraid...

of a lot of things.

[Skittles]

20. they SHOULD be afraid of HIM

UGH

[BillZBubb]

32. Another Hillbot without a sense of humor.

Humor of course is subjective, but you've got to have a sense of humor to know that.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

50. Of course humor is subjective, based on the audience.

If your audience are racists, they'll laugh at your racist humor. (Funny thing is, I've never even found most racist jokes even objectively funny, even putting aside everything else. Racist humor typically overrelies on shock value and little else.)

If your audience are idiots, they'll laugh at your idiotic humor. That's where Donald Trump falls in. No, "Lyin' Ted" isn't very funny, even if we all agree Ted Cruz is an asshole (which he is). It's just five year old playground name-calling.

Great comics manage to transcend the niche audiences lesser comics pander to.

In other words, Donald Trump sucks at comedy.

[Smarmie Doofus]

29. He went down like the Titanic.

I fear a similar fate awaits the DEM nominee.

Especially, you know , if it's ....... herSELF.

[leftynyc]

57. Humorous?

Maybe to those with a 5th grade sense of humor.

[mac56]

13. You think that's funny?

How old are you?

[Smarmie Doofus]

22. Old enough. Point? nt

[Jeffersons Ghost]

51. I was first to discover Trumpism; as an authority, I verify Clintonism is not a real belief system

No large groups of worshipers have been recognized as following Clinton, as a group.

[linuxman]

4. I don't get it.

Why pocahontas? Is she an indian?

[BillZBubb]

6. She claimed that in her Senate campaign and in some applications.

She has some Native American ancestors. Her republican senate opponent (empty suit Scott Brown) tried to make that a big issue in their campaign. Naturally he lost.

[L. Coyote]

24. Part of her ancestry is Native American, albeit distant.

We know a lot of Catholic ancestors because they kept records of sacraments, but we also have hidden branches of genealogy because those ancestors didn't keep records or the records are lost to history due to wars, genocides, fires, floods, book burners, all manner of destruction over time. We all have a lot of ancestors further back, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, ... you get the picture. What are the odds they are all the same region even when you quickly reach millions?

[Corporate666]

35. No. Just no.

Part of her ancestry is NOT native American. It has been researched and there is no proof of it. She herself has even stopped making the claim, and has said many times that it was "family lore" that they had some Indian in them, and she didn't know if it was accurate or not.

It has been researched by professionals and it was not accurate. It was a lie. It was a lie she did not begin telling until her 30's on job applications.

You can like the women - but she lied about being native American.

[L. Coyote]

37. It isn't a lie just because you can't prove it. Family lore can be valid.

In fact, it can be all that is available, which is my precise point. We all have parts of our ancestry tree that is blank. In some cultures, verbal transmission of genealogy goes back many generations. I don't dismiss family knowledge of their past so off-handedly. Who decides who is Native and who isn't? It depends on circumstances, and in the context of an application, it helps to be enrolled in a tribe, to be sure. But it is not a lie until you fill in her entire family tree.

[KamaAina]

43. Job applications?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren#U.S._Senate

In April 2012, the Boston Herald sparked a campaign controversy when it reported that from 1986 to 1995 Warren had listed herself as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools (AALS) directories. Harvard Law School had publicized her minority status in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity, but Warren said that she was unaware of this until she read about it in a newspaper during the 2012 election. Scott Brown, her Republican opponent in the Senate race, speculated that she had fabricated Native American heritage to gain advantage in the employment market. Former colleagues and supervisors at universities she had worked at stated that Warren's ancestry played no role in her hiring. Warren responded to the allegations saying that she had self-identified as a minority in the directories in order to meet others with similar tribal roots. Her brothers defended her, stating that they "grew up listening to our mother and grandmother and other relatives talk about our family's Cherokee and Delaware heritage". In her 2014 autobiography, Warren described the allegations as untrue and hurtful. The New England Historic Genealogical Society found a family newsletter that alluded to a marriage license application that listed Elizabeth Warren’s great-great-great grandmother as a Cherokee, but could not find the primary document and found no proof of her descent. The Oklahoma Historical Society said that finding a definitive answer about Native American heritage can be difficult because of intermarriage and deliberate avoidance of registration.

I don't see anything there about job applications.

[Retrograde]

45. If her family's been in the US long enough there's a good chance

that one of her 64 great-great-great-greatgrandparents or one of her 128 great-great-great-great-greatgrandparents was a Native American. Or Black. Or of mixed parentage. Especially if they were poor or illiterate or living in a remote region where records weren't preserved. She's about my age, so that would be about 1700 or earlier: lots of time for mixing.

Fun fact: President Woodrow Wilson's 2nd wife actually was a descendant of Pocahontas!

[CTyankee]

47. As someone with family in the U.S. going back to the late 1700s I can relate to your

thesis here. There are just too many holes in the famiily tree and with only one family "historian" (on my father's side of the family) who has since passed away. I have some of her documentation but not enough to get to the Indian question. So I just assume that I have some or someone of African heritage in the family. I sure don't every worry about it...

[dhill926]

5. namecalling is cheap....

Mr. Orangie "Little Hands" McFuckface....

[BillZBubb]

8. Not quite as funny as the "pocahontas" line though.

The "little hands" thing would be great to needle him with. Just need a better way to deliver it.

[Angel Martin]

56. I suspect it was actually Fauxcahontas

since that is the usual joke about her on the right.

I guess it's nicer than Lie-awatha

[left-of-center2012]

9. My parents wouldn't let me talk like that as a child

And we might elect this a**hole President?

[CTyankee]

12. me too. My parents were 2nd generation Texans and proud of it...no way would

anything like that come out of their mouths. My mother in particular would consider Trump a loudmouth jerk.

[left-of-center2012]

34. "My parents were 2nd generation Texans"

My mom was from Sweetwater, TX but she married a ex-Marine from PA and moved north.

[CTyankee]

38. At one point I believed that you COULDN'T leave Texas! It was actually funny but I got

so much approbation from my relatives when I went North to school. My dear aunt whose name was Darling Ernest said to me "All your people are Southern people." She was gently chiding me.

[libodem]

11. He's Fired!

[Major Nikon]

14. John Miller would never say something like that

I'm thinking there may be an impostor running his twitter feed.

[onethatcares]

15. probably

John Baron.

He never could keep his mouth shut.

[eShirl]

16. there he goes channeling Archie Bunker again

"Get a load of Billie Jean Graham over here."

[Takket]

21. keep it up Elizabeth!

the more fire you draw from this twit, the less he's shooting at Hillary!

[L. Coyote]

23. Trump is good at one thing, solidifying the senile, old, redneck, white guy demographic.

But, I bet he doesn't have the cajones to get on DU and discuss the issues.

[spanone]

25. mentally, he's a fourth grader

...at best

[hatrack]

26. Surprise, surprise: the Orange Oral Orifice drops a verbal turd

Keep it classy, you son of a slumlord and grandson of a pimp and bootlegger.

[Matariki]

27. And I call Trump 'Princess Tiny Hands'

if the gloves fit...

[Fumesucker]

28. Wingnuts have been calliing Warren Fauxcahontas for a while now

[Corporate666]

36. Lots of people around Boston call her that.

She lied about having native american ancestry. It's just a funny nickname she got from the ordeal.

[CTyankee]

39. I don't believe she lied. She had the family folklore that led her to believe that but did not

have documentation that proved it. BTW, what would such documentation would she need to prove it? If she had a native american ancestor who did not publicly acknowledge such an ancestry due to discrimination at the time it would be hard to prove, even tho family memories were the basis of her claim.

[Corporate666]

42. You're believing a very tenuous chain of impossibly unlikely events to believe she's....

...telling the truth, but there are some pretty damning facts to the contrary.

She never used the indian ancestry until it benefited her in the job marketplace. Furthermore, when she was confronted with her claims, she retracted them and rescinded them. And lastly, nobody whatsoever has been able to corroborate anything she has said.

Nobody can prove she knowingly lied because nobody can prove what "stories" she was supposedly told as a child. But that's really no different than anyone else caught red-handed claiming they "don't remember" details of what they did wrong. It's a get-out-of-jail-free card because you can never prove what someone remembers or doesn't remember. But she intentionally leveraged this falsehood for personal gain - and that is irrefutable.

As for documentation, she claimed to be 1/32 cherokee (IIRC). People have gone through her family tree and confirmed all the people who are within that 1/32 circle are not indian. It's not just looking at birth certificates, it's corroborating it with indian records and lots of other data - all of it proved she has no indian whatsoever in her. She lied.

[CTyankee]

46. I would have to go back and read her book again but it sure was convenient that

her repub. opponent for the Senate is one that you are backing here. I suppose this is new evidence of her culpability that is being circulated in advance of some move by her in this election year. Scott Brown, her opponent in 2013, is currently supporting Trump who has had his own problems with Indian tribes. I find all of this interesting.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

44. Yeah, Boston assholes like Howie Carr, John Dennis and Gerry Callahan

Loser sexist racist two bit fuckwads sore that their empty suit buddy Scott Clown can't get elected dog catcher.

[spartan61]

30. What an immature schoolyard bully

with his silly nicknames. (i.e. Little Marco, Lien Ted, Crooked Hillary, Pocahontas, etc.) And repukes actually think he would make a good president? What is wrong with people?

[BillZBubb]

33. Even most repukes don't think he'd make a good president.

But, Lyin' Ted was great. Anything to knock that creep out the race was a plus. Pocahontas is funny, even though I like Warren.

I make nicknames too, of course I'm not running for president. I'm keeping Lyin' Ryan in the old toolbox, no telling when that one will be useful again.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

53. Claiming "Yeah, but he is funny" re: Donald Trump is like claiming.....

..."Yeah, but he does have great hair."

[BillZBubb]

54. But he doesn't have great hair. He does have a few funny zingers though.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

55. You've just explained yourself right here. nt

[CTyankee]

40. I think Elizabeth should call him "Carrot Top" but I think she's too classy to do it.

[47of74]

31. Fuck him

[JustAnotherGen]

41. Yet some people in America

Think this piece of shit casino dealer is going to 'bring a revolution'. My ass he will.

[Octafish]

48. NAZI

Untermenschen reference.

[Eugene]

49. :facepalm:

He went there again. He clearly can't help himself.
This presidential candidate shows all the maturity
of a five-year-old.

[gwheezie]

52. He's running out of lines

He can't think that quickly.

[Ilsa]

58. And people wonder why voter turnout is low?

Who wants to admit to having to having made a choice between assclowns and other candidates they perceive as dishonest or unethical or too stupid, people who have flame wars over Twitter? I'm sick of this shit.