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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:26 PM May 2016

Kristina Olvera Says She is a Woman. The Prison System Says He is a Man.

http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-22429-kristina-olvera-says-she-is-a-woman-the-prison-system-says-he-is-a-man.html

Kristina Olvera Says She is a Woman. The Prison System Says He is a Man.

The fight for justice for Oregon's transgender inmates.

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Kristina Olvera wants to enjoy the simple pleasures of crossing her legs when she sits, applying eyeliner and pouting her lips.

Her landlord disapproves when she plays with her hair, grows out her nails or wears tight jeans.

That landlord, the Oregon Department of Corrections, recognizes her only as a man—Jose Antonio Olvera, 26, a heroin addict and career petty criminal who was sentenced to 28 months in prison after stealing nine pairs of jeans from Diesel in the Pearl District and $500 in merchandise from the downtown Sephora in 2012.

Olvera had been living as a woman and taking estrogen when the state sent her to the Columbia River Correctional Institution in Northeast Portland in January 2013.

There, Olvera says, prison officials have violated her constitutional rights against cruel and unusual punishment by denying her necessary medical and mental health care recommended for people who are transgender—that is, someone who identifies with, and usually wants to be, the opposite gender.

"I'm a human with rights and feelings that are being trampled on over and over by the Department of Corrections," Olvera wrote to prison officials in a tort claim last month.


Olvera's condition, gender dysphoria, isn't some made-up complaint concocted by a prisoner looking to make trouble. It's a widely established medical and psychiatric diagnosis, for which treatment includes hormones and allowing the subject to live as the opposite sex.

Olvera is not alone. Prison officials say they know of at least 10 such inmates in the state system.

Corrections department records obtained by WW show Oregon prison officials have for years been denying inmates with gender dysphoria medical and mental health treatment related to their diagnoses, even when treatment has been called for by physicians and other medical professionals.

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Kristina Olvera Says She is a Woman. The Prison System Says He is a Man. (Original Post) ErikJ May 2016 OP
How about just make the entire prison system gender neutral StarTrombone May 2016 #1
with forced contraception? or abortions when needed or asked for? Demonaut May 2016 #2
Isn't that one of the arguments that the military has been making StarTrombone May 2016 #4
you're making the a comparison? Demonaut May 2016 #8
Absolutly StarTrombone May 2016 #10
yes, but being military we had codes to follow..there is no comparison to jail Demonaut May 2016 #11
No Travis_0004 May 2016 #3
No need. Just transgenders. ErikJ May 2016 #5
So all individuals should be treated equally StarTrombone May 2016 #6
Equal rights are not special rights. ErikJ May 2016 #7
See her first mistake was stealing some jeans and not millions of dollars from home owners. Rex May 2016 #9
 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
1. How about just make the entire prison system gender neutral
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:54 PM
May 2016

That way everybody is treated equally and everyone will be happy

It really is the next step

Demonaut

(8,915 posts)
2. with forced contraception? or abortions when needed or asked for?
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:01 PM
May 2016

because if I was in a mixed gender prison with nothing to do...well, you get the picture

 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
4. Isn't that one of the arguments that the military has been making
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

To deny women equality in the services

Sounds familiar

Demonaut

(8,915 posts)
11. yes, but being military we had codes to follow..there is no comparison to jail
Sun May 15, 2016, 11:26 PM
May 2016

and who says transgendered are attracted to the sex they are transitioning from?

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
3. No
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

You dont see a problem putting men and women in the same cell or have them both in the same area at the same time?

I dont think mixed prison will happen anytime, nor should they.

im sure in minimum security they can share a yard, but stull need seperate dorms at night.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
5. No need. Just transgenders.
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:24 PM
May 2016

I've known Christina about a year or 2 just as a good friend of a friend. What I know of her is that she would be much more trouble in the men's prison than the female prison. Both predator wise and victim wise. Anyway she got out and is now holding a job with the state as some kind of counselor I think. She's a very flamboyant wild person so I dont know how thats working out.

 

StarTrombone

(188 posts)
6. So all individuals should be treated equally
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

Just some more equal than others then?

Special treatment for special people

Where does that end and who decides

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
7. Equal rights are not special rights.
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

as the bumpersticker says. Gays should have the right to be married like everybody else and transgenders should have the right to use the bathroom where they feel safest and most comfortable. So transgenders should have the right to be in the prison they feel most comfortable and safest in.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. See her first mistake was stealing some jeans and not millions of dollars from home owners.
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:35 PM
May 2016

Her crime was far too small, she was not too big to fail.

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