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http://linkis.com/cbslocal.com/7Mu8ROAKLAND (CBS SF) Hidden microphones that are part of a clandestine government surveillance program that has been operating around the Bay Area has been exposed.
Imagine standing at a bus stop, talking to your friend and having your conversation recorded without you knowing. It happens all the time, and the FBI doesnt even need a warrant to do it.
Federal agents are planting microphones to secretly record conversations.
Jeff Harp, a KPIX 5 security analyst and former FBI special agent said, They put microphones under rocks, they put microphones in trees, they plant microphones in equipment. I mean, theres microphones that are planted in places that people dont think about, because thats the intent!
FBI agents hid microphones inside light fixtures and at a bus stop outside the Oakland Courthouse without a warrant to record conversations, between March 2010 and January 2011.
Federal authorities are trying to prove real estate investors in San Mateo and Alameda counties are guilty of bid rigging and fraud and used these recordings as evidence.
Harp said, An agent cant just go out and grab a recording device and plant it somewhere without authorization from a supervisor or special agent in charge.
The lawyer for one of the accused real estate investors who will ask the judge to throw out the recordings, told KPIX 5 News that, Speaking in a public place does not mean that the individual has no reasonable expectation of privacy private communication in a public place qualifies as a protected oral communication and therefore may not be intercepted without judicial authorization.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)If someone at a bus-stop tried to tell me that "they" are listening, I'd recommend him for a 72hr hold.
And I would be wrong in this case.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Thank you, Homeland Security!
Also, the government developed microphones that can listen from outside buildings like, oh, I don't know, your HOME, from outside. I learned of this technology when I read something--don't remember where--about Justice Brennan's telling a someone to lower his or her voice and explaining that they could be overheard. I don't know when he said that, but he died in 1997, so I imagine the technology to be much more powerful than it was whenever he mentioned this.
They can also plant bugs, read your emails, follow your online activities, tap your phone, un-encrypt your phone, follow and/or film you as you perambulate the streets of your city or town (think all the pics you've seen of the Tsarnaevs as they traveled parallel to route or the Boston Marathon), track your car with a GPS device and do lots of other great things, often with no warrant or a warrant obtained after the fact. And then, there are all those private security cameras in every store, many workplaces, etc.
It's just like Paul Revere and all our other heroes who demanded that the Bill of Rights be added to the Constitution always said never, "If you're not doing anything wrong, what the fuck is your problem with all this crap?
Dedicated to the Fourth Amendment, with love and respect.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Or is that just a little more wacky than this:
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merrily
(45,251 posts)pointing out one thing in my post that you think is not possible. Fortunately, I don't think people who read DU are gullible enough to fall for anything like that.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)So much for the land of the free.
And I don't remember voting for the installation of all of the surveillance cameras on every traffic signal either. They've been in place a number of years now, but I recall no actual pubic debate about it, or discussion of the costs, I just remember they gradually just quietly appeared. I see Merrily's post above, so I assume some or all of these cameras also record audio. It probably all gets stored, indexed, and served to various government agencies (and even worse, some private ones) from the monstrous data center they've constructed in Utah.
All my life we've joked about such things, now it's reality.
The dark side of this, and of drones, has yet to bite us, but it will. The fascist police state is being rolled out gradually, to allow people to acclimate to their incrementally lost freedoms.
The only way I can think of to address these problems is to get money out of politics, so we can have actual debates about what it is we want government to do for us, instead of learning after the fact what government is doing TO us.
The first step in that is to refuse to work for any condidate (freudian typo) who accepts corporate money. The entire fascist police state is the capture of our government by corporate money (which drives the war machine, extraction industries and cheap labor pools).
Bernie's candidacy is a great start. Also the list of Bernie Democrats tells us who is worth supporting. Once we get some people elected without corporate money, we will establish proof of concept, people will see who the genuine public servants are, and see the others as the frauds that they are. This is the road we must travel. On the journey, sing nasty songs to streetlights, you know they're listening.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)either that or these mics are planted for very specific reasons for a limited time, not just planted all over wily-nily.
The actual news video at the link gives better details on this, vs. this article with also is full of English mistakes for some reason.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Statues? Court cases? Links to credible people in the know? Analysis? Anything at all other than unsupported, conclusory statements of things you would, for whatever reason, like us to believe?
uhnope
(6,419 posts)try reading it
merrily
(45,251 posts)that accompanies it.
spin
(17,493 posts)Big Brother is definitely here and now.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)on conversations (not just phone calls). Your cell phone is an NSA spy tool!
http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/06/technology/security/nsa-turn-on-phone/
No. But government spies can get your phone to play dead.
It's a crafty hack. You press the button. The device buzzes. You see the usual power-off animation. The screen goes black. But it'll secretly stay on -- microphone listening and camera recording.
How did they get into your phone in the first place? Here's an explanation by former members of the CIA, Navy SEALs and consultants to the U.S. military's cyber warfare team. They've seen it firsthand.
>More at the link.<
Also, those pix of an SUV covered with antennae? Well, Stingrays are now briefcase sized, so don't look for a huge Chevy Suburban.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/the-briefcases-that-imitate-cell-phone-towers/380678/
The Stingray was invented for use by the military, but recently local law-enforcement groups have started using the devicea controversial move, and one that may not even be legal, according to a recent report by the American Civil Liberties Union.
Kablooie
(18,619 posts)You can photograph someone but can't record Audio without both parties being aware.
Why doesn't this law affect this situation?