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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:11 PM May 2016

Robot cars could lead to increased traffic

WASHINGTON — Self-driving cars are expected to usher in a new era of mobility, safety and convenience. The problem, say transportation researchers, is that people will use them too much.

Experts foresee robot cars chauffeuring children to school, dance class and baseball practice. The disabled and elderly will have new mobility. Commuters will be able to work, sleep, eat or watch movies on the way to the office. People may stay home more because they can send their cars to do things like pick up groceries they’ve ordered online.

Researchers believe the number of miles driven will skyrocket. It’s less certain whether that will mean a corresponding surge in traffic congestion, but it’s a clear possibility.

Gary Silberg, an auto industry expert at accounting firm KPMG, compares it to the introduction of smartphones. “It will be indispensable to your life,” he said. “It will be all sorts of things we can’t even think of today.”

Cars that can drive themselves under limited conditions are expected to be available within five to 10 years. Versions able to navigate under most conditions may take 10 to 20 years.

Based on focus groups in Atlanta, Denver and Chicago, KPMG predicts autonomous “mobility-on-demand” services — think Uber and Lyft without a driver — will result in double-digit increases in travel by people in two age groups: those over 65, and those 16 to 24.

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160516/NEWS02/160519371

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Robot cars could lead to increased traffic (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 OP
Too early to worry about this IMO TrappedInUtah May 2016 #1
I think it will be more like a phased in approach Major Nikon May 2016 #6
Ah, perfect for industry. HuckleB May 2016 #2
Interesting. Possibly means taxes on car use in congested cities Albertoo May 2016 #3
It may lead to increased traffic, but there is a mitigating factor as well Massacure May 2016 #4
Assuming alternatives are available Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #5
My Grand Pap had a horse and buggy, yortsed snacilbuper May 2016 #7
I don't have a smart phone so obviously it is not indispensable to my life Skittles May 2016 #8
As someone who can't drive because of my Asperger's, robocars can't come soon enough. Odin2005 May 2016 #9
As someone who is approaching seniorhood, I second that emotion. nt raccoon May 2016 #12
Increased density is not increased congestion whatthehey May 2016 #10
Rather than make Food Delivery more affordable, Children's Activities more communal, KittyWampus May 2016 #11
True, but the individual can do almost nothing to correct that Orrex May 2016 #15
Actually, the opposite is true. Darb May 2016 #13
Not if you factor in the amount of additional cars being used for "smaller tasks". KittyWampus May 2016 #14
soooooo we have given up on mass transit? dembotoz May 2016 #16
Interestingly I've heard some mass transit foes use driverless cars for that reason Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #17
Could lead to increased accidents with hackers and viruses leading the way. Rex May 2016 #18
 

TrappedInUtah

(87 posts)
1. Too early to worry about this IMO
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:16 PM
May 2016

I think we're at minimum 30-40 years away from truly capable self-driving cars.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
6. I think it will be more like a phased in approach
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:55 PM
May 2016

At first it will only be in certain areas on certain roads and as the technology improves it will expand.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
2. Ah, perfect for industry.
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:18 PM
May 2016

Robot cars can get bigger, so you can spend "family time" during that long commute to work and school, you know, watching sports and Fox News, of course. No board games or books allowed.

The dance party car will be cool, but, yeah, it might get ticketed for excessive slowing of traffic.

Hmm.

Massacure

(7,517 posts)
4. It may lead to increased traffic, but there is a mitigating factor as well
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:29 PM
May 2016

A car that is driven by a robot could be fed data that optimizes the route it will drive. A computer is much better at route optimization than a human is.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
5. Assuming alternatives are available
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:51 PM
May 2016

I've known of some people who've resented their residential streets being turned into thoroughfares.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
7. My Grand Pap had a horse and buggy,
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:30 AM
May 2016

he would sleep on the way home from the tavern and the horse always got him home safe, it had to cross a stream too!

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
10. Increased density is not increased congestion
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

Waiting for a human driver to stop texting and move away from a red light taxes a few seconds, then the blissninny following him takes a while to respond and, wisely, leaves a cushion behind an unpredictable driver to cover for his reaction time just in case, and the whole delay oscillates back the queue like a sine wave. Given immediate reactions, no distractions, and a consistent gap which requires only physical braking distance, you could fit twice as many cars on the same roads.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
11. Rather than make Food Delivery more affordable, Children's Activities more communal,
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016

and use Adult Transportation… everyone has to have their own individual car.

It's an extremely dysfunctional way to address societal needs.

Individualism run amok.

Orrex

(63,195 posts)
15. True, but the individual can do almost nothing to correct that
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:16 AM
May 2016

"Everyone has to have their own individual car" because there's no viable alternative. The only job I've found that will support my family is 35 miles from my house, so I can either drive or I can stay home and go broke.

I'd guess that more than 99% of the US doesn't have a fully functional public transportation system, so the choices are either drive yourself, bum a ride from a pal, walk, bike or take a cab (or an Uber, ha ha).

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
13. Actually, the opposite is true.
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:30 AM
May 2016

The robot cars stay closer together, move in unison, do not hesitate between behind other cars in front of them in turn lanes or in traffic. They run closer together. It will also decrease fuel consumption.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
14. Not if you factor in the amount of additional cars being used for "smaller tasks".
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:32 AM
May 2016

American society needs to learn how to 'share' transportation with our neighbors.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,863 posts)
17. Interestingly I've heard some mass transit foes use driverless cars for that reason
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

I live in the Seattle area and we're voting on a $50 billion transit measure this fall.

As one who's worked in the tech business for 30+ years I know some innovations don't always work as promised.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. Could lead to increased accidents with hackers and viruses leading the way.
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

No thanks, I will drive my own car.

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