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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:07 PM May 2016

Saudi Arabia releases video on National TV teaching husbands how to beat their wives

Not. The. Onion.

http://elicit.wix.com/the-watchdog#!Saudi-Arabia-releases-video-on-National-TV-teaching-husbands-how-to-beat-their-wives/c193z/573203490cf2e405158afef5

The national television of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has aired a video, in which a self-styled Islamic family doctor is seen teaching men in the country how to ‘properly’ beat their wives.

The video is believed to have been aired in the country in early February, 2016. The Kingdom’s government is said to have approved the video, and that is why it was given airtime on national television.

After airing the video in Saudi Arabia, the Saudi government released the controversial video in the United States via the Washington DC-based Middle East Media Research Institute, in April 2016. Women activists group describe the video as nothing less than infuriating.

The content of the video features the doctor who is said to specialize in therapy; Khaled Al-Saqaby teaching men how to ‘properly’ beat their wives if their (wives) disobey them.


We're allied with these people why, exactly?
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Saudi Arabia releases video on National TV teaching husbands how to beat their wives (Original Post) KamaAina May 2016 OP
this has existed since at least the 80's. my aunt and uncle lived in SA and often talk about this La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #1
And? cleanhippie May 2016 #11
Did I say it was? La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #29
I think that was another how to beat your wife video... Egnever May 2016 #25
Give it 6 months atreides1 May 2016 #2
Our "allies" arcane1 May 2016 #3
The vast majority of violent Islamism stems from Saudi-funded proselytizing... Odin2005 May 2016 #4
Wahhabi-ism has made its mark. Emelina May 2016 #21
Obviously they have to follow the rule of thumb: the rod must be no thicker than the man's thumb Hekate May 2016 #5
We know the vulgar talking yam's thumbs are short, but how thick are they? KamaAina May 2016 #6
That's no consolation. There are thin whips that can deliver devastating damage Arazi May 2016 #8
A myth. linuxman May 2016 #47
The religion of peace, but towards wives? Albertoo May 2016 #7
That's how they make peace at home... Ones own little dictatorship. cleanhippie May 2016 #13
I suppose it's OK Albertoo May 2016 #18
Here's the video Egnever May 2016 #9
That's virtually progressive liberalism for Saudi Arabia. joshcryer May 2016 #20
Hardly progress. It describes an expectation of obedience from a wife, and outlines the proper Brickbat May 2016 #31
What sick cowards! smirkymonkey May 2016 #10
Google "How to train up a child" or "How to train up a wife". Exact same thing, just Christian. cleanhippie May 2016 #12
Is there a Christian tv program... romanic May 2016 #14
This is the official agnostic102 May 2016 #15
BULLSHIT leftynyc May 2016 #23
Thank you. cwydro May 2016 #30
That's a good point. Catholicism is quite progressive, it's in the 17th century at least! cleanhippie May 2016 #33
I don't have any love for that religion either. cwydro May 2016 #34
The majority of American Catholics are Democrats. Mosby May 2016 #43
Fuck Saudi Arabia. Ilsa May 2016 #16
Worst country on earth!! Initech May 2016 #17
As long as they aren't Christians, many on DU will probably approve Democat May 2016 #19
They wont approve leftynyc May 2016 #24
That we have ANYTHING to leftynyc May 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy May 2016 #26
Strange bedfellows. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #27
What the Dorian Gray May 2016 #28
Grotesque. Rex May 2016 #32
If I had to guess... TrappedInUtah May 2016 #38
Pretty sure my wife would 'properly' kill me. Mr Maru May 2016 #35
You cant blame an entire culture for one isolated idiot. bdwker May 2016 #36
Uh...... TrappedInUtah May 2016 #37
That's our friends, right? Iggo May 2016 #39
America families libodem May 2016 #40
The obligatory alert.... SusanLarson May 2016 #41
174 posts and you've already caught on to the alert situation? KamaAina May 2016 #44
I am trans SusanLarson May 2016 #46
Alert Troll shanked this one into the weeds. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #42
When will the Saudis release the "bring down the twin towers" video Cyrano May 2016 #45
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
25. I think that was another how to beat your wife video...
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:55 AM
May 2016

The video was recorded in February but was released this week via the Washington DC-based Middle East Media Research Institute.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555047/How-discipline-wife-Saudi-style-Muslim-family-therapist-advises-men-beat-spouses-toothpick-handkerchief-forsake-bed.html#ixzz495tWpBsd
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Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
4. The vast majority of violent Islamism stems from Saudi-funded proselytizing...
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

...of fundamentalist Salafist Islam throughout the Islamic World. Traditionally Muslims in South Asia, SE Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa, and the Balkans belonged to tolerant, non-dogmatic Sufi-influenced sects.

Emelina

(188 posts)
21. Wahhabi-ism has made its mark.
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:46 AM
May 2016

The Saudi leadership uses money to influence the selection of religious teachers around the world.

Hekate

(90,619 posts)
5. Obviously they have to follow the rule of thumb: the rod must be no thicker than the man's thumb
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:51 PM
May 2016

According to former English Common Law, at least. YMMV in Arabia.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
8. That's no consolation. There are thin whips that can deliver devastating damage
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

The size of the "rod" is a small part. Where and how frequently that "rod" is applied can easily mean permanent disability or death even if its as thin as the edge of a scalpel.


cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
13. That's how they make peace at home... Ones own little dictatorship.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:29 PM
May 2016

Backed by religious law.


Ain't religion grand?

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
18. I suppose it's OK
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:25 AM
May 2016

A religion which clearly enunciates in its sacred texts (Quran+hadiths) that men are superior to women, and can beat their wives into submission if necessary has absolutely no need to make any adjustment to its doctrine, has it?

Which is good news as adjustments are bid'ah, innovations which are heretical in and of themselves. So I suppose women will just have to submit patiently. To suggest there is anything wrong with all this stuff would be islamophobia, and probably racism.



 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
9. Here's the video
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:07 PM
May 2016

I certainly don't agree with beating your wife but in a country where wives are often brutally beaten this video advocates beating them with a tiny little tooth cleaning stick and it says the point is not to cause injury and should not be done in anger. It actually advocates against injury. Still wrong no question but in that particular country I would say it is progress.




joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
20. That's virtually progressive liberalism for Saudi Arabia.
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:29 AM
May 2016

Add fucked up as that sounds.

Thanks for posting the video.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
31. Hardly progress. It describes an expectation of obedience from a wife, and outlines the proper
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

emotional abuse to inflict when she's disobedient. The root is still bad.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
12. Google "How to train up a child" or "How to train up a wife". Exact same thing, just Christian.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:28 PM
May 2016

Islam isn't the problem, religion is.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
14. Is there a Christian tv program...
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

instructing a man to beat his wife in the name of God? If there is'nt then your point is moot.

agnostic102

(198 posts)
15. This is the official
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:11 PM
May 2016

official position of an entire country and gov. This isnt some fringe group in a forest with there own made up church who made a youtube video. The video you watched is sanctioned by an entire country. Saudi arabia and its imperialistic wahhabi ideology is going to be the scorn of the 21st century.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. BULLSHIT
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:26 AM
May 2016

This is being broadcast on TV by the GOVERNMENT. Don't try that magical balance fairy bullshit - it's dishonest and deflection in the name of being pc.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
33. That's a good point. Catholicism is quite progressive, it's in the 17th century at least!
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:47 AM
May 2016

There's still the patriarchy, the misogyny, the pedophilia, the homophobia, and the absurdity like Islam, but when you're right you're right....at least it's not stuck in the 13th century. Being stuck in the 17th century is so much better, amirite?

Democat

(11,617 posts)
19. As long as they aren't Christians, many on DU will probably approve
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:00 AM
May 2016

The DU rule is often that we must respect all religions except Christianity.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. They wont approve
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:28 AM
May 2016

but they'll do fucking back flips in order to claim the West is exactly the same. There's one right here on this thread already. Repulsive.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. That we have ANYTHING to
Thu May 19, 2016, 05:24 AM
May 2016

do with a shithole like this embarrasses me as an American. Pretending they're anything but a shithole is even worse.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. Grotesque.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:41 AM
May 2016

Why are men so fucking violent? Why are we supposed to abuse others? Some higher power wants this? What fucking garbage.

How about a video on developing a loving relationship with your wive(s)? Too much work?

 

TrappedInUtah

(87 posts)
38. If I had to guess...
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

It's due to how men are physically stronger and more durable usually. This led to men thinking God must have designed them to be the superior sex, and that women were inferior and just for making babies. The opposite situation might have occurred if women were bigger and stronger(Like with black widow spiders for example). For all we know men would have been kept for mating and any extras would be killed off and eaten.

 

TrappedInUtah

(87 posts)
37. Uh......
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:49 AM
May 2016

Sure seems to be a lot of 'isolated' incidents with a certain culture. What I'm particularly bothered by is how entire nations seem to approve of this sort of behavior officially.

 

SusanLarson

(284 posts)
41. The obligatory alert....
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:40 PM
May 2016

On Thu May 19, 2016, 12:29 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Saudi Arabia releases video on National TV teaching husbands how to beat their wives
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027840321

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

More Islamophobia on DU, as if Christians never beat their wives

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu May 19, 2016, 12:36 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alert abuse.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh come on... what the heck is with all the petty alerts lately? Perhaps the alerter should watch the entire video before doing this.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This alert a joke right? Instructional video on how to beat your wife and you can't question our alliance with such barbarians? How can anyone defend this?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If the reporter would like to highlight Christian actions of a similar nature they are free to do so.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
44. 174 posts and you've already caught on to the alert situation?
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:54 PM
May 2016

Nice! And welcome!

And how is criticizing one particular Muslim country "Islamophobic"? Then again, criticism of Israel is often called anti-Semitic. (sigh)

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
42. Alert Troll shanked this one into the weeds.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

On Thu May 19, 2016, 12:29 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Saudi Arabia releases video on National TV teaching husbands how to beat their wives
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027840321

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

More Islamophobia on DU, as if Christians never beat their wives

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu May 19, 2016, 12:36 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: False equivalence in the alert. So sorry you don't want to see what's actually happening in the world. Might want to just go ahead and unhook from the internet so you don't accidentally see any other facts/reality.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alert abuse.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh come on... what the heck is with all the petty alerts lately? Perhaps the alerter should watch the entire video before doing this.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This alert a joke right? Instructional video on how to beat your wife and you can't question our alliance with such barbarians? How can anyone defend this?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If the reporter would like to highlight Christian actions of a similar nature they are free to do so.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
45. When will the Saudis release the "bring down the twin towers" video
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:55 PM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 19, 2016, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

I guess about the same time our government decides to release those 28 pages about Saudi involvement in 9/11.

Bush/Cheney invaded the wrong country and they knew it.

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