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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe problem with a progressive party.
A progressive has to admit there is a problem and then they can define the problem and the solution. A progressive has no tolerance for your opinion unless it is the same as the progressive solution.
It is always my way or the highway.
This leaves the progressive in a state of constant frustration or a vicious authoritarian.
Society that function best is based on tolerance without submission.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)Was FDR a progressive?
CK_John
(10,005 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)We progressives will take your profound insights and put them where they belong.
raging moderate
(4,292 posts)I met both in my youth, when I was involved in civil rights and anti-Vietnam war protests. It was the Communists who insisted on only one answer, the answer that had been formulated by central Communist authorities. It was progressives who would talk things over and consider other options. If anything, the difficulty has been reaching a consensus on which specific measures to implement. Progressives are not new. My grandfather, fifty years ago, retired in an old farmhouse in Wisconsin, recalled his youthful participation in the progressive movement and subscribed to a magazine called the Progressive.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Do you have any idea what it actually means to be progressive? My working definition involves shoring up Social Security (and not through raising the age), reducing the military (and using it very sparingly, only when necessary to protect Americans or for humanitarian reasons), providing low or no cost education at all levels. single-payer health care (why not? most countries have some version of this), environmental protection as a priority, returning to more progressive taxation levels (such as those that existed in the mid-60s).
Progressives are by definition not authoritarians.
Which of those do you oppose? What is so unreasonable about any of that? Nobody said any of that was easy to achieve.
It means putting people ahead of corporations and opposing neoliberalism in all its guises.
raging moderate
(4,292 posts)Thank you.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I am a progressive ONLY for others. I am set for life; don't work; have no children's future to worry about.
I'm a progressive for those who are suffering.
You obviously don't get the notion of empathy, which makes me sad for you.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Allow only cetnrist/conservative voices in your party?
Loyalty Oaths to your non-progressive party?
Require members to vote only for your party?
Brand those who dissent as "purists"?
Cry that the left is authoritarian when they refuse to follow orders?
CK_John
(10,005 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)If you want a progressive voice in politics do the work and form a party.