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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:21 PM May 2016

We May Be About to Witness One of the Great Privatizations of America's Public Lands

http://www.alternet.org/environment/public-land-america-might-be-about-go-private

How the raid on Malheur screened a future raid on real estate.

It goes without saying that in a democracy everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions. The trouble starts when people think they are also entitled to their own facts.

Away out West, on the hundreds of millions of acres of public lands that most Americans take for granted (if they are aware of them at all), the trouble is deep, widespread, and won’t soon go away. Last winter’s armed take-over and 41-day occupation of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Oregon is a case in point. It was carried out by people who, if they hadn’t been white and dressed as cowboys, might have been called “terrorists” and treated as such. Their interpretation of the history of western lands and of the judicial basis for federal land ownership—or at least that of their leaders, since they weren’t exactly a band of intellectuals—was only loosely linked to reality.

At least some of them took inspiration from the notion that Jesus Christ wrote the Constitution (which would be news to the Deists, like James Madison, who were its actual authors) and that it prohibits federal ownership of any land excepting administrative sites within the United States—a contention that more than two centuries of American jurisprudence has emphatically repudiated.

The troubling thing is that similar delusions infect pockets of unrest throughout the West, lending a kind of twisted legitimacy to efforts at both the state and national level to transfer western public lands to states and counties. To be sure, not all the proponents of this liquidation of America’s national patrimony subscribe to wing-nut doctrines; sometimes they just use them.
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We May Be About to Witness One of the Great Privatizations of America's Public Lands (Original Post) Ferd Berfel May 2016 OP
ALEC has been setting this up for many years blm May 2016 #1
given some of the 'conversations' I've had here Ferd Berfel May 2016 #2
Baloney - you're in the wrong forum for that reply. blm May 2016 #3
It's all connected Ferd Berfel May 2016 #4
I know the difference, and I know discernment….. blm May 2016 #5
Hunters and fishers are allies to prevent this. Are they Our allies? Eleanors38 May 2016 #6
Excellent point. Brickbat May 2016 #9
One right wing creep is running for sorefeet May 2016 #7
Public lands felix_numinous May 2016 #8

blm

(113,010 posts)
3. Baloney - you're in the wrong forum for that reply.
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:29 PM
May 2016

And I say that as a longtime Dem who also voted for Sanders, but, know well the very real differences between Dem policies and GOP policies.

try out your act on someone else

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
4. It's all connected
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:34 PM
May 2016

You will find a llot of Fracking support from camp weathervane here

The privatization is coming from the Politics. It's all connected

blm

(113,010 posts)
5. I know the difference, and I know discernment…..
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:47 PM
May 2016

and I know when someone chooses to ignore accuracy in favor of polemics.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
7. One right wing creep is running for
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

Governor of Montana, Gianforte (giantfart) and he wants to privatize all the BLM and parks like Yellowstone. He is also a Mormon billionaire who thinks earth is 6000 years old. The wackos are literally trying to pull a hostile takeover of the West.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
8. Public lands
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

are being sold off to the highest bidder. Malheur squatters were useful idiots to ridicule against anyone fighting it.

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