Whenever a host on MSNBC lets a talking head get away with 'Democrat Party'...

[onehandle]

...they should be fined a million dollars.

Mika just let one of these jerks say it with no notice or comment.

[Cosmic Kitten]

1. Again with this whining, this makes Democrats look like pansies

[Kip Humphrey]

2. Where names are more important than what those names stand for.

[maddiemom]

17. It's a matter of principle and semantics.

Repubs started using this as a dis, and emphasizing "rat" at the end. Dems should have never given it credence. PLUS, it's bad grammar---using a noun as an adjective (modifier).

[Hortensis]

19. Lol. OLD pattern. We are only "Democrats" BECAUSE

conservatives 200 years ago called the new Republican Party (the liberals of those days) democrats as a slur. So they started calling themselves the Democratic-Republican party and wore it proudly, then later we continued on as the Democratic Party and wear it more proudly still.

And here we are again. It's really pretty funny!

Btw, I honestly only recently learned "democrat" was supposed to be a slur. I always figured it was proud anti-education nonsense like "nucular."

[skip fox]

29. It was one of Frank Luntz's "brain" children.

[maddiemom]

31. I thought so.

[Kip Humphrey]

32. indeed it was along with turning "liberal" into a 4-letter word. My point though is what's truly

important are the principles, policies and approach to governance that these word represent.

[Hortensis]

41. Ah! Figures. Just sounds old-illiterate. As a lifelong

liberal, I am of course all too familiar with the villification of that term, also watching its tremendous success. To this day, polls that rely on self-identification by liberals (most) are by definition inaccurate and conservatives seem to feel hat handing the nuclear codes to a nutcase no one knows is actually conservative is safer than to an avowed liberal.

[Straw Man]

55. You mean ...

PLUS, it's bad grammar---using a noun as an adjective (modifier).

... like "baseball bat"? Or "egg timer"?

[maddiemom]

56. Cute! You got this retired English teacher, EXCEPT...

those examples are part of the entire proper name, not just--oh, never mind. English is a bitch.

[maddiemom]

18. In politics they CAN be.

[onehandle]

3. At Democratic Underground, Democrats are allowed to be attacked but not defended.

The Nominee:

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[JRLeft]

5. This is a sport right?

Go team go!

[frylock]

35. Our indictee.

[840high]

51. Made me smile.

[JRLeft]

4. Too many democrats view politics from a sports franchise lens instead real life consequences.

Go team go!

[Cosmic Kitten]

7. It's questionable if they even believe what they write

There's a history of paid trolls
with Hillary.
She did it in the State Dept.
And it looks like she paid trolls
in the primary for tweets and likes.

And now the ratfucker David Brock
has admitted he's paying trolls
to ratfuck democrats Sanders

[JRLeft]

10. It wouldn't surprise me. On a different note, have you noticed her supporters never engage in

policy discussion?

Trump is a fascist and is a buffoon, but Hillary dangerous neocon her foreign policy decisions are reckless. Her decision making is Dubya bad.

[Darb]

23. You are mistaken again.

I question your motives.

[trumad]

61. LOL

The irony with that one burns.

[Darb]

21. No, it doesn't.

They say it that way because they are calling us rats, in case you didn't know. Get a clue. First in to whine about the post huh? Maybe you...........................

[frylock]

34. I hate to break it to you.

[LanternWaste]

42. And confusing 'whining' and 'concern' makes people look like biased half-wits.

And confusing 'whining' and 'concern' makes people look like biased half-wits.

[libdem4life]

44. Toss in merely the stating of Someone's record makes one a "Hater"

Go figure.

[Odin2005]

48. Nice homophobic slur, there.

[trumad]

60. It's fucking Democratic...not fucking Democrat.

And they should be called out every fucking time. Your concern trolling is troubling.

[Little Star]

6. Drives me nuts everytime I hear it! But...

I think that's exactly why they do it, to belittle us as much as possible.

[Cosmic Kitten]

8. Oh, are you being *harmed*

Can't take the heat get out of the Primary

[HOPNOSH]

36. Poster said nothing about being harmed

Why the angry hyperbole?

[Skittles]

54. histeria over Hillary

unhinged

[TipTok]

9. Maybe because it gets such a rise out of some...

[liberalnarb]

22. Really? I think it just makes them sound dumb.

It was supposed to be the "Democrat Socialist Party" back in 2008 (in my dreams). But they couldn't even get their own politicians to say it.

[bahrbearian]

11. She probably feared for her life.

[Lucky Luciano]

12. Trivial concern.

If it were not for DU, I never would have had any idea dropping the "ic" could cause such whining.

[peabody]

47. Trivial?

They already turned liberal into a label with bad connotation and now they're trying to do it with the word Democrat. Keep giving them slack and attacking those of us defending the name and you've become an ally in their assault. Language, in case you don't know it, is very powerful and the right-wing has been scoring victories after victories: pro-life, death-tax, socialize medicine, and so on. It lets them frame the arguments and those people they despise. Why roll over on another one?

[Lucky Luciano]

49. In what possible way is democrat a slur?! nt

[peabody]

50. They emphasize the RAT in Democrat

and thus try to to stigmatized the party and it's members as rats. It's a strategy from Frank Luntz, their linguistic expert. They've already use the word liberal as a smear; you want them to include Democrat it there too? That's why we complain. Language can be a powerful weapon to smear and demonize; we can't let them keep using it against us.

[scscholar]

52. They use that word because they hate us.

They hate us so much.

[840high]

53. The "ic" is not one

of my daily concerns. Trivial.

[maddiemom]

13. This drives me crazy, too.

I call it out whenever I can (including on DU).

[malaise]

14. They do it all time

I'm living for the day someone calls them ReTHUGs on air

[d_legendary1]

15. Why is this on the trending page?

There are lot more important things to worry about than some paid shill calling us names.

[RoccoR5955]

16. WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

[nxylas]

20. I consider it a minor annoyance

Like "I could care less" or spelling "voila" as "walla".

[Justice]

24. Mika says it herself.

I heard her say it last week.

[libdem4life]

26. Mika is for Bernie and wants DWS fired.

That's the real reason for all of this. Someone would like for her to be fired, I take it. And probably the "jerk" was not pro-HRC...didn't see it, just reading it in context here.

[Egnever]

39. Mika is for whoever she is told to be for that week

the idea that woman holds any kind of principled position is laughable.

[libdem4life]

43. She may not be the Alpha Male on the set, I'll grant you that,

and one rarely ever sees the left side of her face...always pointed toward Him...and when she was saying "fire her" she was talking over to males in conversation...OK, at least she's trying. And I do agree with her, so there's that.

[Justice]

57. Mika is for Trump.

[libdem4life]

62. She is not. Unless she lies on MJ. She kept

repeating it at least three times trying to get a word in edgewise with Joe and a guest.

Sorry to disappoint you.

[Dreamer Tatum]

27. Fined by whom? Under what authority?

Love to know what legal principle would apply. Other than your butthurt, that is.

[HOPNOSH]

37. 2005 is calling

Butthurt is so over.

[brucefan]

28. I'm glad someone else noticed

That drives me crazy!(which is probably why they do it.)

[WhiteTara]

30. I was told Mika is a GOOD democrat

but I question that. I think she is too far up Dead Intern Joe's ass to be anything but a stooge.

[frylock]

33. Boo-hoo-hoo

[Egnever]

38. I don't get the hang up with that

Never have.

There are certainly a lot of people offended by it but I have just never been bothered by it.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

40. Gingrich and Luntz of the REPUBLIC party were the propagators...

The ungrammatical conversion of the noun "Democrat" to an adjective was the brainchild of Republican partisans, presumably an attempt to deny the opposing party the claim to being "democratic" -- or in the words of New Yorker magazine senior editor Hendrik Hertzberg, "to deny the enemy the positive connotations of its chosen appellation." In the early 1990s, apparently due largely to the urging of then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and Republican pollster Frank Luntz, the use of the word "Democrat" as an adjective became near-universal among Republicans.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2006/08/16/gop-strategists-christen-democrat-sic-party-and/136406


Edit: They even has seminars on this.

[Eleanors38]

45. Just respond with "Repubelickan Party," or "Grand Old Potty." Fair 'nuff.

[TeamPooka]

46. I just call them Publicans when anyone uses it around me. If they complain I just say

I'm abbreviating it two letters like you do to Democratic.
Then they shut the fuck up

[librechik]

58. 'Puke-licans n/t

[karynnj]

59. That is pretty over the top

First of all, it is a pretty minor offense. I don't think we need to make "Democrat" almost a bad word when used as an adjective. Not to mention, I have occasionally heard even some very good Democrats slip when speaking about some issue or other.

Second, for the most part, it signals that you should consider the talking head as potentially leaning right.

Third, making this a big issue makes us look silly -- as it really does not deserve the level of anger that you seem to have.

[Gormy Cuss]

63. For those of you who think this is silly whining....

here's a nice write up of why the right adopted this usage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_%28epithet%29

And my two cents: every time a talking head uses it inappropriately we should refer to the GOP as the Publican party.