The conservative crackup: How progressives can exploit the GOP's implosion and attain an "earthquake

[applegrove]

The conservative crackup: How progressives can exploit the GOP's implosion and attain an "earthquake" election

by Heather Digby Parton at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/20/the_conservative_crackup_how_progressives_can_exploit_the_gops_implosion_and_attain_an_earthquake_election/

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[highprincipleswork]

1. Progressives can exploit this & win. Regressives, trying 2 jam 90's politics down our throats can't

Spectacles of undemocratic behavior and non-inclusion as in Nevada do not help either.

In other words, don't try to exploit the faults of Conservatives by behaving more like them.

Progressive Solution, all the way.

[joeybee12]

5. Right off the bat, an excuse for violence

What rules were changed at the last minute? Hmmm...none...hmmm...both sides agreed to the rules...hmmm...damn those facts

[highprincipleswork]

6. You had better look more closely into the event, perhaps watch the video even.

[joeybee12]

7. I have...and you better try better at deflecting blame...

Your response is just the latest meme, just like Boxer supposedly flipped someone off, merely excuse because you and Bernie won't take responsibility...like I said, facts be damned when you can create a narrative that resolves you of any blame.

[highprincipleswork]

8. The truth is, I find Bernie supporters way more fact based than the Hillary side. It isn't close.

[joeybee12]

9. Good for you

And by the way, next time you want to turn any thread into a GDP thread and ruin for everyone who don't want to listen to that crap, think again, and post it there...it's a very simple rule to follow...thanks

[highprincipleswork]

10. I'd wager I've been a Democrat at least as long as you, just as loyal, and just as active. When the

Democratic Party chooses to represent values that aren't in any way Democratic or democratic, I'm not going to sit idly by and pretend that I'm happy.

And I'm not going to be shut up or blackmailed by people saying that these protestations help the Republicans.

Occupy yourself making sure the Democratic Party does the right things for the people who want to be part of that party, all the people or the largest majority of them. Not just the self-satisfied ones that want Hillary for one reason or another, good reason or not.

[joeybee12]

11. Like I said, good for you...

Yeah, pro choice and gay rights and gun control aren't progressive...oh yeah, only what Bernie and his supporters say are progressive matter, and even when most people voting for Hillary share her progressive values, that's not enough, because only you're right. And again, I'd appreciate it if you would follow the rules here...you apparently can't stop yourself from telling everyone what to think or believe, and if you want do that, GDP is the place...it's simple...GD is for everything else, think you can follow that simple rule?

[highprincipleswork]

12. i'm responding to the post, are you?

[joeybee12]

13. You intentionally turned this into a primary post

Like so many supporters of senator do-Nothing...lots more to talk about than that. I'm done...this is pointless,

[highprincipleswork]

16. My original and continued point is in agreement with the first post in stating that Progressivism is

clearly the way for the Democratic Party to have its "earthquake election" this year.

If the Democratic Party flaunts Progressive social values, but acts regressively on economic issues and also cannot find its way to include the wider Progressive issues that Bernie is fighting for, it only weakens itself and turns its back on much longer traditions of Progressivism and Democratic Party than were concocted in the 90's and flirted with ever since.

The stronger move is to embrace Progressivism, as postulated upfront in the post, in a wider way. The weaker move is to tell Bernie supporters you don't need their vote, you don't care about them, they lost and so should shut up, and anyway, they should vote Democratic because of Donald Trump.

[BillZBubb]

14. You haven't looked at shit if you believe what you are saying.

The Nevada DNC stooge, Lange and her Hillary backers forced the temporary rules that slanted to Hillary to be the permanent rules without a true vote. That's a fact and you know it. It was a sham voice vote.

[Agnosticsherbet]

2. More than 75% of the Republican party has lined up behind the Hair führer

I think we should back of applauding the crack up of the party and work on kicking Trump's ass.

[applegrove]

3. Hillary or Bernie, whomever wins the nom, should keep in mind these cracks when running their

campaign. I expect my politicians to be pretty sofisticated at this juncture in history.

[Lodestar]

4. The biggest issue or weakest link I see with any current form

of political strategizing, is the market/branding formula mindset that is NOT substantive or enduring once
the candidate is 'sold' to the public. It's about manipulation and winning and profits. So the
political process itself is the embodiment of everything people want to change. It is capitalism's
dark side, it is a ruling elite's mindset...how to sell the electorate on your 'brand'.

That's one reason why people want to get beyond party politics and respond
to authenticity over branding. They know they are seen as 'consumers' by'
the establishment...consumers of information, consumers of products and
consumers of political rhetoric.

It's nearly impossible for the establishment to change because they are so
locked into this whole way of viewing and interacting with the world.

[BillZBubb]

15. Progressives can't do anything if Hillary is elected.

She's as progressive as 1950's republican at MOST.