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Initech

(100,063 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:44 AM May 2016

Oklahoma Considering Religious Segregated Bathrooms

Oklahoma lawmakers have introduced a bill that would allow students to request on religious grounds that their public schools provide a bathroom or other facility that bars transgender people.

The bill appears to be one of the first state-level legislative actions to challenge the Obama administration’s directives, issued last week, that said students must be allowed to use the facilities that match the gender they identify as, even if that is different from their anatomical sex.

The Senate bill introduced on Thursday in Oklahoma defined “sex” as the “physical condition of being male or female, as identified at birth” by an individual’s anatomy.

It says any student can request a “religious accommodation” from a school for restrooms, athletic changing facilities or showers that are exclusively used by people with the anatomical sex at birth that is similar to their own. This means that a male student could request that the school provide facilities only for use by other students who were male when they were born.

It said a student can do so based on “sincerely held religious beliefs.”

The proposed legislation says single-occupancy facilities would not be considered an allowable accommodation.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/separate-bathrooms-by-religion-oklahoma-opens-new-front-in-transgender-debate/ar-BBthT06?li=BBnb7Kz


God damn them.
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LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
2. Great. Give anybody demanding a scriptural restroom a shovel and point them toward the end of town.
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:18 AM
May 2016
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+23%3A12-14&version=ESV

Deuteronomy 23:12-14English Standard Version (ESV)

12 “You shall have a place outside the camp, and you shall go out to it. 13 And you shall have a trowel with your tools, and when you sit down outside, you shall dig a hole with it and turn back and cover up your excrement. 14 Because the Lord your God walks in the midst of your camp, to deliver you and to give up your enemies before you, therefore your camp must be holy, so that he may not see anything indecent among you and turn away from you.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
4. Single-occupancy not acceptable?
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:31 AM
May 2016

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]That seems very strange. You'd think they'd be happy to completely eliminate the risk of an unrecognizably transgendered person slipping into the "wrong" bathroom with them unnoticed.



LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
6. I say give it to them
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:48 AM
May 2016

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]Make it really shoddy and with little privacy and then put it in a far off corner of the school.

Let the bigots see how "seperate but unequal" really works. Maybe after being separated from everyone, and singled out, and constantly running late to class just because they had to use the restroom, they might finally understand what it is like to be treated that way.

Just like these bigoted kids found out:[/font]
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/05/06/3775767/illinois-transgender-student-lawsuit/?utm_content=bufferebbce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

District 211 previously refused to let Student A use the girls’ locker room, requiring her to use private changing rooms elsewhere in the school before phys ed class or other activities. What’s perhaps most ironic about the lawsuit is that it claims that those same alternatives are unacceptable accommodations for the girls in the suit. Rather than being ostracized for who they are, like Student A experienced, they claim to have been ostracized for their intolerance.

“Students who use the stalls are ridiculed and harassed by other students to such an extent that the stalls are not a practical option,” the complaint claims. It details how when one student used the private changing stall, “other girls who were in the locker room began calling her names, including ‘transphobic’ and ‘homophobic.'” When “word spread,” she was further “harassed by other students in the hallways.” The poor student now wears her gym clothes under other clothes to avoid changing for phys ed at all.


Even private restrooms, like the one in the nurse’s office, are insufficient. The complaint points out that it is too far away, so there is not enough time to use it and get to class on time. Besides, “this facility for changing is inferior to the locker room facilities provided for boy students.”

Avoiding Student A in the restrooms creates the same problem; “because there are only five minutes between classes, any student leaving one restroom to hunt for another is almost certain to be tardy.” The restrooms are so far apart that “there is not enough time for a Girl Plaintiff who is uncomfortable sharing a restroom with a biological male to leave the restroom she already walked into, walk to another restroom a distance away, attend to her personal needs, and then get to class on time.”

What’s ironic about these claims is that these are the exact same accommodations that were originally offered to Student A. Because they intentionally burdened and segregated her, the Department of Education rejected these required alternatives as not sufficiently meeting her needs. In fact, because transgender students are already vulnerable to bullying and ostracization, such segregation has a compounding effect that can result in severe consequences for their mental health.


[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]Of course, I doubt that Ok will be okay with that as they would be when it is a transgirl experiencing those things.

These transphobic bigots just never learn. [/font]

Initech

(100,063 posts)
9. Yup fewer states to visit!
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

And more of an excuse to travel to more international destinations and see how the rest of the world works!

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. If God is neither male or female and wasn't born, which would he/she/it/not-it qualify for?
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

Did Jesus have a birth certificate?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
12. The Pastafarian restroom and lounge will have sofas and refreshments
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

and lasagna and hookahs with cannabis

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
13. My home state! I'm so glad I left!!!!
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

Oklahoma was always conservative; but, it has descended into absolute, right-wing crackpottery along with so many other states.

npk

(3,660 posts)
14. I'll take a dump wherever Jeesess did
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

Of course I blame our founding fathers for not prescribing that America should be a land free from religion.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
15. Yeah, nothing like fleeing religious persecution
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

so that you can start a country based on religious persecution.

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