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think

(11,641 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:12 PM May 2016

Flashback: After Taking A $10 Billion Bailout, Goldman Sachs Announces It Will Outsource 1,000 Jobs

After Taking A $10 Billion Bailout, Goldman Sachs Announces It Will Outsource 1,000 Jobs To Singapore

BY SCOTT KEYES JUN 28, 2011 12:50 PM

Less than three years after receiving $10 billion in bailout money from American taxpayers, Goldman Sachs informed its employees recently that it will fire 1,000 workers in the United States and elsewhere, shifting their jobs to the cheaper Singaporean labor market.

According to Fox Business, Goldman Sachs has quietly informed workers and lawmakers of its plan to outsource 1,000 jobs in an attempt to inoculate itself from the impending blowback:

Goldman is so concerned about the potential for criticism that the firm’s representatives have been alerting staffers of lawmakers in Washington of the hiring spree in recent weeks as a way to mollify any concerns they may have about previously undisclosed plans to add 1,000 jobs to the firm’s Singapore office, according to people in Washington with direct knowledge if the matter. Goldman is concerned about criticism because it is adding those jobs while it is planning what could be a significant retrenchment in its U.S. workforce, these people say.


Goldman Sachs has also worked to protect itself by hiring former Republican Sen. Judd Gregg (NH) as an “international advisor.” It is not unreasonable to assume that Gregg’s 26 years in Washington will help the investment firm’s attempts to placate critics....


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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/06/28/255724/goldman-sachs-outsource-1000-jobs-singapore/
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Flashback: After Taking A $10 Billion Bailout, Goldman Sachs Announces It Will Outsource 1,000 Jobs (Original Post) think May 2016 OP
and how many of those 1,000 workers supported Republicans or corporate Democrats? nt antigop May 2016 #1
Good question. /nt think May 2016 #2
Among Democrats, I can think of a likely recipient. Eleanors38 May 2016 #23
HRC: "Outsourcing will continue" antigop May 2016 #3
I have friends who thought they were immune. Their jobs haven't been outsourced yet but they think May 2016 #6
it really is unbelievable, isn't it? Why do so many people think that bad sh*t always happens to antigop May 2016 #8
It's unfortunate that people think like that until it's too late and it happens to them. Hopefully think May 2016 #10
That's what allows garbage to happen. No imagination, no empathy. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #17
and I will add...it will only get worse if we don't stand up to the corporatists in both parties. nt antigop May 2016 #9
Completely agree. The TPP is corporate law created by corporations for the corporations. think May 2016 #11
And I really fear they will slam the TPP through in the lame-duck session. nt antigop May 2016 #13
Just written today: "Trade Backers Pin Pacific-Pact Hopes on Lame-Duck U.S. Congress" think May 2016 #14
Should I sigh or bang my head against the wall? nt antigop May 2016 #15
Sighing hurts less. Physical pain, anyway. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #18
The friends I have that make the most - $150k to $250k and up - are in the outsourcing business. Hassin Bin Sober May 2016 #29
Just ''doin' God's work.'' Octafish May 2016 #4
Thank you for the laugh :) think May 2016 #5
The Clintons got theirs though. ananda May 2016 #7
Indeed they did... think May 2016 #12
ayn radians never have shame. pansypoo53219 May 2016 #16
I still find it impossible to get my head completely around the fact SusanCalvin May 2016 #20
G/S Directors to terminated employees ... lpbk2713 May 2016 #19
The most important thing in the world is for rich people to get richer. Nothing else--absolutely valerief May 2016 #21
Race to the bottom Baobab May 2016 #22
Tell them to "Cut that out!", Hillary! Herman4747 May 2016 #24
k&r Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #25
Of course, their 'donations' have no influence on politics - whatsoever! RedCappedBandit May 2016 #26
Every big company will outsource every job.. sendero May 2016 #27
Thanks for sharing your experience. lpbk2713 May 2016 #28
In fairness, they paid it back in 2009, with interest bhikkhu May 2016 #30

antigop

(12,778 posts)
3. HRC: "Outsourcing will continue"
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090702780.html

When Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton flew to New Delhi to meet with Indian business leaders in 2005, she offered a blunt assessment of the loss of American jobs across the Pacific. "There is no way to legislate against reality," she declared. "Outsourcing will continue. . . . We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences."



How many of those 1,000 workers thought they were immune from outsourcing?
 

think

(11,641 posts)
6. I have friends who thought they were immune. Their jobs haven't been outsourced yet but they
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

are now watching other jobs in their companies being moved overseas and now see the hand writing on the wall.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
8. it really is unbelievable, isn't it? Why do so many people think that bad sh*t always happens to
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016

someone else?

 

think

(11,641 posts)
10. It's unfortunate that people think like that until it's too late and it happens to them. Hopefully
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:36 PM
May 2016

people will wake up to the reality of the situation and start working to find solutions before the situation becomes unattainable ..

antigop

(12,778 posts)
9. and I will add...it will only get worse if we don't stand up to the corporatists in both parties. nt
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:33 PM
May 2016

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,308 posts)
29. The friends I have that make the most - $150k to $250k and up - are in the outsourcing business.
Sun May 22, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

One is an independent contractor working with a chocolate/candy maker moving operations to Panama.

A couple others are in tech. traveling back and forth to Singapore, Thailand and India.

That's where the money is.

(I do their mortgages so I know what people make)

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
20. I still find it impossible to get my head completely around the fact
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:11 PM
May 2016

That there are people in the world who didn't outgrow her after high school.

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
19. G/S Directors to terminated employees ...
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:10 PM
May 2016



"Screw you people. We'll give the money you might have earned
to a former GOP Senator who can grease a few palms."


valerief

(53,235 posts)
21. The most important thing in the world is for rich people to get richer. Nothing else--absolutely
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:55 PM
May 2016

nothing else--matters.

That's the only rational way to understand our world.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
24. Tell them to "Cut that out!", Hillary!
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:16 PM
May 2016

Next time your being bribed, oops, I mean being paid $225,000 for an hour of your time.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
27. Every big company will outsource every job..
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

... they possibly can and some they cannot.

I work as a software engineer for a company that mostly maintains and improves legacy code for a certain sector of the economy. Most of the code is quite complex, filled with technical debt and not easy to work on even if you are on shore.

Several years ago a new VP of development was hired and his first meeting was to explain how we were going to take on some "offshore partners". This guy was clearly brought on to outsource as much of the development organization as possible. He made several promises about the nature of what was to come (time zones, which products would never be outsourced, etc) that were found to be empty promises in short order. Folks in middle management were on board with the idea saying (later proven to be idiotic, I already knew) "sure these guys can't perform as well as our onshore developers, but they only make $10 an hour".

Several year story long shortened, 90% of these teams FAILED. They could not do the work even after a year of experience and "training". The VP who was brought in resigned or was asked to leave. At this point there are still a couple of small teams doing the easiest stuff, even so they don't do a very good job.

The ONLY ONLY ONLY reason my job isn't in Bangalore is that they could not find people who could actually do it. But they are not going to stop trying, you can count on that.

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
28. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Sun May 22, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016



Goes to show, the bean counters don't always have the most reliable ideas.

bhikkhu

(10,711 posts)
30. In fairness, they paid it back in 2009, with interest
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:11 PM
May 2016

and they are generally rated among the best employers in the country. They employ about 35,000 people, mostly in the US. I would question the "cheaper Singaporean labor market" as well. Singapore is number one on the list of world cities for cost of living, higher than New York, San Francisco or Seattle. How cheap can labor be there? In any case, two years after this particular outsourcing, they hired 2,800 people, mostly graduates from Ivy league colleges.

I have no fondness for the business sector they inhabit, but they do fill a role.

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