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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Trump Takes Campaign in Strange Direction"--headline on Morning Joe 24/05/16
The panel generally agree that Drumpf's latest lowblows against Hillary on Twitter (harking back to her husband's excesses in the 90s) are a very bizarre way to try and consolidate his vote with the 69% of women who view him disfavorably.
"I find it hard to believe that 17 years later this will have any more resonance than it did at the time. Bill Clinton's approval numbers shot up when the Repubs tried this back then."~Joe Scarborough
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Scar went on to question how this tactic was demonstrating Drumpf's ability to "pivot" to a more presidential posture, which is what analysts agree is crucial.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)fasttense
(17,301 posts)"Drumpf's latest low blows against Hillary on Twitter (harking back to her husband's excesses in the 90s)."
So I wondered what words he used in those tweets and how he wrote it. Do you have a link or can you quote those tweets?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)and a spliced in, edited Hillary laugh. Just badly produced if nothing else.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Seems Trump can sink lower than a snake's belly.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Cosmocat
(14,563 posts)post convention.
But, I still think that once the dust settles and it just him and her, he won't be able to avoid being who he is (scorpion and frog) and will pull this shit, and I think over time if she handles it as well as I think she will, it will work to her advantage.
All the dehumanizing of Hillary for years and years and years, this SHOULD work to make her more sympathetic to the middlish types.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)who have lived through this shyte in their own lives.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)I think that perhaps his thinking (probably just intuitive gut feeling) is that the fact that Hillary Clinton stuck with Bill, despite all he did and his reputation, says something about her. One could argue that a strong feminist would have dumped Bill and moved on. It shows perhaps a certain opportunistic side of Hillary's personality. After all, her shapeshifting attributes seem to drive her unfavorability ratings. People just don't trust her. Trump's strategy may pan out in the end.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)jehop61
(1,735 posts)could see her keeping her marriage together as she is a firm believer in marriage and its importance in our society. She could believe in her commitment that says for better or worse. And she could love him despite his failings and vulnerability. All coming from a strong Christian commitment. See how easy it is to turn around your negative spin on it.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Is a net positive, I'd say, especially to voters who weren't adults during the Clinton years.
Emerging from a hugely embarrassing family crisis (a constitutional one at that) to become the powerful, connected, grounded, mature Clinton Family (tm) is a pretty good story. Contrast that with the almost comic-book tawdriness of Trump's love life.
Trump is a fool if he thinks he'll win an artillery battle with Clinton by lobbing Bill's sexual peccadilloes at her.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)They choose to stay together. It doesn't bother me at all. I don't understand why it concerns anyone else. Clearly trump doesn't really give a shit about the Clinton marriage or if Bill cheated on Hillary so what do you think his motive is.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)something about whether his wives enabled him
or whether his wife at the time listened to Howard Stern
or maybe he's just remembering something that happened at his house
I'm sure the focus groups will think of more.
Hillary can deliver zingers, I'm sure, and is not thin skinned like the Donald.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)to Hillary. Once she has definitively dispatched the Bern, she will massacre this clown with reason and calm.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)The majority of America is tired of reason and calm.
It bores them unfortunately.
People are angry, and they're tired of the same old shit.
And here's Hillary preaching all about continuing Obama's legacy ANND bringing Bill into the fold with her. Two for one!
She may scrape by, the people willing, but it won't be a massacre. Look, her ratings are still falling and she's in a dead heat with dipshit Trump.
That is reality. Look at that big picture and take it ALL in.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)consider the specter of Donald "shoot from the hip" Drumpf with his finger on the botton, enough of them will make the reasonable choice.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Rather than vote proudly for who they want.
Tell me how the two leading candidates in the nation are the least trusted?
It's because, Democracy is surely broken.
randr
(12,409 posts)and he knows it is a vulnerability. So acting as a Republican he attacks his opponent where it would hurt him most.
All Hillary needs to do in a face to face debate is to mentions that she and Bill have had problems many American's deal with and that they are glad their love survived.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)As if before then, it had just been your average, run of the mill presidential campaign.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Zingers! And SLAMS! And burns!
We could be pushing forth with a candidate who is strong on the issues and stands with them all the time instead of triangulation.
Democracy isn't supposed to be a reality show.
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retrowire
(10,345 posts)And it is not becoming of our reputation in the world to have a leader like that.
Power or not, he's married.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)One man's morals are another man's rules and we all know rules are regulations and that regulations are bad - just ask any big banker.
(For what it's worth, I totally agree with you. I'm just really bad at the whole sarcasm thing).
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Apparently some people would rather alert immediately instead of actually conversing with you and learning your true intent as I did.
Lol people are losing it here.
Botany
(70,491 posts).... why is he bringing this up?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Botany
(70,491 posts)..... I say go for it.
New Mexico's Governor has opted out of being on this kamikaze flight.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141462420
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Botany
(70,491 posts)I can almost guarantee you that when Trump comes to OH Kasich might be busy too.
Kasich has an ego so he might go to the RNC in Cleveland this summer but I doubt he will
share a stage w/Trump on the campaign trail.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)They excuse him by saying that when he was cheating on his wives he wasn't running for president. So he gets a pass.
Botany
(70,491 posts)... they are still mad that a "black man" is POTUS and all the other stuff he spews is
just window dressing.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)GOPers truly think that have a moral compass on morals. It was HRC's decision about her marriage. And what the hell, T-rump and the numerous persons in his party think they have a higher calling for judging goodness and badness? Hell no